F.C. BARCELONA Thread [Season 2006/2007]

[Vedran-10]

...You Barelona fans feel that you deserve it cause of the last 2 years...

This is where I stopped reading. You're just not paying attention to what I'm saying.

The discussion ends here, for me at least.

 

[big al]

By a Real Madrid standard, we are rubbish but by an average team standard we are good. No, everything is not fine and dandy, far from it. Like I said, I wouldn't bet on us winning since we have the toughest schedule left but I think it's a decent possibility. I have no problem witht he truth unlike other people. You Barelona fans feel that you deserve it cause of the last 2 years...sorry but the points do not lie. Who ever ends up with the most points deserves it. Truth is that you cannot stand to see us win any trophy and will always make up excuses. We will return to greatness eventually, like always, it's a matter of time. 100 years of our clubs history shows that we always come back to winning. Losing years happens with all the big clubs, it's just our turn and I think the end of the cycle is near....

Good try Vedran & Co. but your point of not deserving makes no sense.

i dont know if iam not explaining my self right or you are just plain lazy to read, so i have to agree with vedran on that you just read what you want, anyways in what law says making an opinion about madrid makes us antimadridistas, alot of people not only barcelonistas have been debating about the matter, and most agree, you dont need to be antimadridista to know what went on this season, and i can understand you beeing a merengue fan would never agree.
its funny you mention getting back to greatness when by your comments and others its all about racking up the numbers, any hardcore madridista would spit in your face, you just can achieve greatness with a mediocre mentality like that; imo one of the biggest problems why madrid cant seem to win a title is the lack confidence/motivation going on the locker room of madrid, cause quality are in bundles in madrid, now how ironic is that even the fans are getting infested by this, you guys dont even know anymore what make about your team, but just dont believe me, sooner or later you will loose one of the upcoming games and i am not saying this to be a dick, but only so you can see what was point of view.

 

[Socrates]

It's like you're playing the best you can plus having lots of luck, and you're still 2 pts behind in a season when Barca are playing their worst football in the last four seasons. The difference in quality is far greater, not just between Barca and Madrid but also between Sevilla and Madrid.

I think we'd practically be champions already if Eto'o and Messi hadn't been injured for so long. On the other hand, Sevilla would have been far away if they weren't stretched between three competitions. So basically, you're the team that got lucky twice, since in normal conditions, without an insane amount of luck, you'd be struggling somewhere between 5th and 7th, I reckon, with Barcelona and Sevilla battling out the title.


I don't want you to chalk this up to me being a Barcelona fan. I don't like to see Madrid win anything, but I'd also congratulate you on any deserved title. The problem is, this season you've been far worse than Barca and Sevilla and you definitely don't deserve to take the cup. Hell, even we don't deserve it, but at least we weren't so lucky and we can argue that we have a team good enough to escape with the league, while your team can compete only in "extreme" conditions like these. I don't mind when the best team wins, but this season is ridiculous. Even you Merengues cursed Capello countless times because you know your team is bad, and you know that our biggest problems this season have been very serious injuries, and yet you think that you're amongst those who would rightfully take the league.
FFS, tell me if you can remember the last time you outnumbered Barcelona at the Camp Nou? See how lucky you are that Oleguer decided to do one of the stupidest things in his career in that very match. The whole season is just crazy, and I don't know how else to express myself.

I'm so agitated because I always thought that the league was the only competition where the best team always wins. I was certain that, if you have the best squad, you'll win, and nothing can stand up to quality through 38 games. But now, for the first time since I follow football, it's become doubtful. I don't know what's going on anymore. I know the CL is a gamble, and you have to have more luck than quality to win it, but the league... It's been a traumatic season and now this. I've never seen a team play such bad football and still be in for the title, and it's sad for me to see that such things can happen.

One could also look at it like this, this is one of the ****test Madrid side in years and is only 2 points behind the leader's the almighty Barcelona. You guys playing bad football is not our problem, just like our ****ty play has not been your problem ( and we have had lot's of ****ty performances this year so I don't see what point your trying ot make there? ).

Hmm that's quite high of you to think like that, what happened this season happend. What if Messi and Eto'o had bad years? What if your who team was slumping? What if, what if, and more what if's if your going to look back at it like that. I could even say what if Capello's plan actually worked, we would surely have walked away with the title...you see how this can be kind of a ridiculos statement.

Well so far this year Xavi has not been that great, Deco has been underperforming, so has Marquez, so has Dinho, and you only have Zambrotta who has just started to perfrom as your only good FC, and you also lake a good DM so I don't see how you could deserve the title more than us or Sevilla? You have failed to beat practically the same team's as we have and you suck away from home. The Oleguer case can also be said for Helguera, why he played like an amature and like Messi score his hattrick right before the game ended is beyond me. Damn you guys got lucky there, no doubt we have been lucky but this excuse is being overused, seriously I will be the first one to admit it's been a strange season but in the end the team who deserves to win it will be the one in first place. If any la liga team will curse injures than surely it will be Valencia.

If the title was going by how good a team played than we should give it to Zaragoza ( who I think palyes the best football but than again that goes down to opinions ). The league is won by points not by style, I don't like Capello but that's how it is.

i dont know if iam not explaining my self right or you are just plain lazy to read, so i have to agree with vedran on that you just read what you want, anyways in what law says making an opinion about madrid makes us antimadridistas, alot of people not only barcelonistas have been debating about the matter, and most agree, you dont need to be antimadridista to know what went on this season, and i can understand you beeing a merengue fan would never agree.
its funny you mention getting back to greatness when by your comments and others its all about racking up the numbers, any hardcore madridista would spit in your face, you just can achieve greatness with a mediocre mentality like that; imo one of the biggest problems why madrid cant seem to win a title is the lack confidence/motivation going on the locker room of madrid, cause quality are in bundles in madrid, now how ironic is that even the fans are getting infested by this, you guys dont even know anymore what make about your team, but just dont believe me, sooner or later you will loose one of the upcoming games and i am not saying this to be a dick, but only so you can see what was point of view.

Your post is kind of hard to read, I am not really sure what your getting at? I don't think anyone said anything about being anti-madridista? It's fine to have an opinion. Spit in his face? For what excatly? I am sure he, like all of us, don't like the way we are palying but what he says is still the truth. Points win the league not the style of play. We have lots of problems in the team but this whole confidence/mentality is not really true, we still have quite a bit of deadweights, a bad coach, no wingers, and etc but that's for another debate. Fans are getting infested? by what excatly? Quite a bit of fans don't see us lifting the title so I don't know what your getting at?

 

[Num Lock]

It's normal that when we don't have Eto'o, Ronaldinho or Messi the team is not so efficient. They're too important and hardly replaceable.

Thuram is in the lists of players to leave in the summer. He's 35 years old and the Camp Nou is too big for him, he's too slow. Everytime he tries to run more than 15 metres he gets injured for a couple of weeks. Most of the times he doesn't even try and Puyol has to save his ass. When he's been fit he's played almost always, so I don't know why you're complaining.

Saviola had his moment. He played some great games but then after a couple of disastrous games he returned to the bench and it's only fair that Gudjohnsen gets some chances too.

we've seen different teams then, but losing eto'o and not having a proper backup is your own clubs fault not anybody elses, i can understand losing Ronaldinho could hurt the team but you lost your only real striker and your team just wasn't efective enough anymore, now Tutu excuse me he maybe 35 but he is still better than the ones you use the most, i used to like the way Barca played cuz when they clicked they played beautiful football but some of the moves Rijkaard makes are just seriously bad.

again between gudj and Saviola i wouldve kept el conejito.

 

[big al]

Your post is kind of hard to read, I am not really sure what your getting at? I don't think anyone said anything about being anti-madridista? It's fine to have an opinion. Spit in his face? For what excatly? I am sure he, like all of us, don't like the way we are palying but what he says is still the truth. Points win the league not the style of play. We have lots of problems in the team but this whole confidence/mentality is not really true, we still have quite a bit of deadweights, a bad coach, no wingers, and etc but that's for another debate. Fans are getting infested? by what excatly? Quite a bit of fans don't see us lifting the title so I don't know what your getting at?

Your post is kind of hard to read, I am not really sure what your getting at?

forget about capello's style, forget about barca's and sevilla's inconsistency , i only have one reason why madrid dont deserved it , and the reason is that they have been so freaking lucky to win in so many matches, dont know how you guys were able to pull thruw in so many matches, dont just ask me , look around the madrid thread, i must agree with the comment before, capello is one of the luckiest SOB i seen.

As for Real, sorry man, but you guys winning the league would be one of the biggest jokes ever.

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I don't think anyone said anything about being anti-madridista?

. So, all things considering, I'd say we're not tooo bad. The anti madridismo is everywhere and I quite enjoy it. I would hate to be ateam no one cares about, talks about and feel indifferent about. Somos grandes!

You Barelona fans feel that you deserve it cause of the last 2 years... Truth is that you cannot stand to see us win any trophy and will always make up excuses.

ruth is that everytime things are going either good or fair for us, there's always the MADRIDITIS bug going around! And furthermore truth is that it hurts so bad cause you wish you were best overall...Bye Bye!

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Spit in his face? For what excatly?

Fans are getting infested? by what excatly?

you guys dont even know anymore what to make about your team

We will return to greatness eventually, like always, it's a matter of time. 100 years of our clubs history shows that we always come back to winning

Like I said, I wouldn't bet on us winning since we have the toughest schedule left

but Who ever ends up with the most points deserves it.

 

[Lean]

Like someone said, for Real Madrid's standards this team's campaign is pretty average. For average team's standards, the campaign is good. Is that enough for a team to deserve a championship? A good campaign by average standards?

Madrid has been irregular all season, incompetent at putting teams away at home and winning some games through the season in a somehow lucky way, playing some dull football aswell. I repeat, wasnt for Barça's incompetence the league would be over long ago. The Madrid team you're seeing this season can improve, alright, but not THIS season. Currently, that's the best you're going to see them play and that's it. They're playing to their current potential. With pre-season stuff and some weeks of training, plus the right pieces here and there Madrid can become a machine.

Now Barça have been below-par, below their par, that's what i mean. The same team, improved manwise but playing worse. That's why the thing for me is Barça's incompetence, not Madrid's.

 

[big al]

we've seen different teams then, but losing eto'o and not having a proper backup is your own clubs fault not anybody elses, i can understand losing Ronaldinho could hurt the team but you lost your only real striker and your team just wasn't efective enough anymore, now Tutu excuse me he maybe 35 but he is still better than the ones you use the most, i used to like the way Barca played cuz when they clicked they played beautiful football but some of the moves Rijkaard makes are just seriously bad.

again between gudj and Saviola i wouldve kept el conejito.

i can agree thuram beeing better than marquez and oleguer this season, but not puyol, its just seems puyol and thuram arent clicking as well as marquez and puyol did 2 seasons ago , but still this season they are the best alternative at CBs, i think we do need a new CB to pair with puyol , but i would love thuram to stay another season, he could be very useful...

about saviola, even so the games he played he responded , the importance of etoo on Rijkaards system is to highly its not even funny, imo i dont think no other forward we could have brought could do the stuff etoo can do for us, i can dare to say he is more important tha dinho and messi in our system, i mean its no coincidence when we first brought etoo to barca things started to happen for us , titles that is.

 

[Socrates]

The crap that he tried to post

..., horrible attempt and your using OrgulloVikingo as someone who is saying Barca fan's are being anti-madrid or however you see it....just brilliant.

 

[big al]

..., horrible attempt and your using OrgulloVikingo as someone who is saying Barca fan's are being anti-madrid or however you see it....just brilliant.

hey mate i was only answering your questions cause you didnt get it, if you dont like what i answer to orgullo then dont be noisy either, dont know why it bothers you so much what everyone else thinks about madrid or anything that relates to him, i guess theirs must be a reason for that, if you and orgullo say madrid will deserve it if they get the mosts points then ok, be happy ; my opinion is only base on what i seen thruw out the season, what i have read in many forums, the press, fans , news etc... i am not pulling anything out of my arse; besides like i mention before no one else brought up the subject until orgullo did, funny he did it in the barcelona thread and not the madrid one too, must be reason for that too.

and please dude no more of your answering with questions, its sincerely anoying, if you dont get it than leave it at that.

 

[Vedran-10]

Good posts big al and Lean.

However, it's no use arguing anymore. It seems that every time we post something, they reply to a part of it and ignore the rest. And it's like that again and again. I don't want to have a discussion like that, it's ridiculous.

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

The bottom line is that the team that ends up with the most points will deserve to win La Liga, period! I do not know where there is room for argument! It's really fundamental and simple this notion of most points! I mean, c'mon, We are not to blame for Barelona's poor form. We are 2 points away and that's because we have done enough to be 2 points away (this includes convincingly beating you). I am tired of the "what ifs" as well. Excuses go out the window, only final points are going to count. I think it would hurt too much if we won it, plain and simple. I also love the way some Barelona fans here are already making excuses for them not winning when the season isn't even over yet, shows some confidence! Already they are praising Sevilla, etc. Take care...

Most points = :hit: = Excuses for not winning La Liga

 

[Jaboldinho]

Oh my god! Can you just shut up about this already? If you would have read any of these posts, you'd know that every1 wants this conversation to stop because this is getting nowhere. Always the same arguments made by the same people and so on.... So please, let's close this case and concentrate on something else than arguing about this.

Let's just see how La Liga ends up and maybe we can have a talk then, if you really wanna. But please; stop posting the same f*ckin' words again and again. You could as well copy your old posts and post them here again, and you wouldn't have to write it all over again and you would get off much easier.

Still, I don't really believe that OV & the Gang will stop this BS now, but what the hell, I just don't have the energy to care anymore about this talk...

 

[Vedran-10]

It's useless to reply to them, but I will say this:

No one is making excuses. I, for one, have been praising Sevilla because they deserve it. They're a great team indeed.

 

[big al]

The bottom line is that the team that ends up with the most points will deserve to win La Liga, period! I do not know where there is room for argument! It's really fundamental and simple this notion of most points! I mean, c'mon, We are not to blame for Barelona's poor form. We are 2 points away and that's because we have done enough to be 2 points away (this includes convincingly beating you). I am tired of the "what ifs" as well. Excuses go out the window, only final points are going to count. I think it would hurt too much if we won it, plain and simple. I also love the way some Barelona fans here are already making excuses for them not winning when the season isn't even over yet, shows some confidence! Already they are praising Sevilla, etc. Take care...

Most points = :hit: = Excuses for not winning La Liga

nop you guys dont deserve it, cause you were dammmm lucky to get mosts of those points period ( ask atletico or celta ), i leave short so you can read it all?; anything else we can help you with in the barcelona thread mate? nop, then see ya

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

I guess people only want to hear what they want to...nothing more. The reason why the thread continues is because you guys are in denial about the fact that whoever has the most points (regardless of how they earn them and how they play their games), deserves to win La Liga. This is basic. Thread over for me...bad luck to Farca!

 

[big al]

I guess people only want to hear what they want to...nothing more. The reason why the thread continues is because you guys are in denial about the fact that whoever has the most points (regardless of how they earn them and how they play their games), deserves to win La Liga. This is basic. Thread over for me...bad luck to Farca!

see ya mandril, if barca wins it , i mark my words you are going to change your mine about your theory faster than a speeding bullet. just wait.

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

see ya mandril, if barca wins it , i mark my words you are going to change your mine about your theory faster than a speeding bullet. just wait.

Bull! I stated before that you guys are the favorites. You should win it according to your recent success, chemistry, etc. If you win it it's because you deserve to. I have no problem with that. You've won the previous Liga title, CL title because you played the best and that no one can take away from you. I'm not going to hold you accountable for our inadequacy, if that ends up being the case. We are responsible for what we do and don't do, and those words you can mark.

 

[big al]

Bull! I stated before that you guys are the favorites. You should win it according to your recent success, chemistry, etc. If you win it it's because you deserve to. I have no problem with that. You've won the previous Liga title, CL title because you played the best and that no one can take away from you. I'm not going to hold you accountable for our inadequacy, if that ends up being the case. We are responsible for what we do and don't do, and those words you can mark.

ok

btw guys has anybody heard the news about abidal , dont know if ist bullcrap or not, but at least the news didnt came out from MARCA or AS. if its true iam wondering how much would baRcelona pay for him.

 

[Vedran-10]

I saw it on the TV, they said 12 million.

 

[big al]

one more week as leaders, but how much miss chances did he have today, again?, damm etoo needs to think and be more smarter when he is one on one with the goalkeeper, dinho needs to kill those ones too, he always goes for the galant touch, if we miss the half of the chances we have in the last games against teams like atletico , believe me its going to come and bite us in the arse , we need to be more on Q , this game could have ended 5:0 if we were on target.