F.C. BARCELONA Thread [Season 2006/2007]

[OrgulloVikingo]

If we have to lose the title, I hope it goes to the better team (Sevilla), and not to Madrid.
If somehow Madrid managed to win it this season, I don't know what I'd do. Like a Madrid fan said on another forum, it would be the biggest robbery in Barcelona's history. I correct that by saying it would be the biggest robbery in the history of both Barca and Sevilla.

We have all had decisions for and against us, but I just wouldn't be able to deal with Madrid taking the league with the kind of football they're showing. And when I remember that they have the world's best player in their team... ugh.

Man, just to think that we couldn't take advantage of Madrid's poor form and Sevilla being stretched between three competitions...

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Strange but true: Real, somehow, are going to win the league
Never mind their myriad shortcomings; Real Madrid have been let off the hook so many times that their rivals will surely end up paying for it.
Sid Lowe
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/20...real_some.html

Tonsils bounce higher than rubber balls. New Mexico's greatest tourist attraction is a nacho. And elbow transplants come from scrotums. Polar bears can eat 86 penguins in one sitting (but only if someone takes the wrappers off first, obviously). Bats can dodge raindrops one by one. And Rhesus monkeys hang from trees by their dicks. Chairman Mao cleaned his teeth with tea, while Ghandi glugged a glass of urine every morning. Djimi Traore won the European Cup. And Real Madrid are going to win the league.

Ridiculous. But true.

Never mind the fact that Madrid have scored fewer home goals than relegation-bound Nàstic; that their second highest marksman has five (but still does the big I-am when he stumbles across the net); or that sarcastic team-mates call striker Higuaín "Igaulín" (samey) because his goalscoring record is just like Ronaldo's, having hit the same number as Andrés Palop. That's Sevilla goalkeeper Andrés Palop.

Never mind all that. Or that the coach is only there because the club couldn't pay him off, that a month ago he'd given up and that his on-field protégée has all the vision, mobility and joie de vivre of Hans Moleman. Never mind that only Iker Casillas has kept them alive, that Ramón Calderón has Presidential Tourettes and that a million sharks and crooks have presidential designs, or that sporting director Predrag Mijatovic summed up the difference between Madrid and Barcelona by griping: "Messi's [Maradona-esque] goal is easily stopped with a tactical foul." Never mind that the Santiago Bernabéu has spent half the season fidgeting in boredom and the other half waving hankies in protest. Because Real Madrid are going to win the league.

And they're going to win the league because they've been let off the hook so many times their rivals will surely end up paying for it. Valencia keeper Santi Cañizares described this as "the league of laments" and he was absolutely right. It won't be won by the best team but the least bad one - which is exactly why Madrid are still in it.

As this column has insisted before, you could count Madrid's decent performances on the fingers of one hand if your name was Abu Hamza, but somehow they keep getting results. At home, they fluked a 1-1 draw with Atlético, needed a penalty to get the same result against Getafe and were grateful for a crazy bobble to avoid defeat to Betis. They defeated Zaragoza 1-0 with a scrappy goal from a half-cleared corner and beat Osasuna 2-0 with the navarrans resting seven first-teamers and missing their best player through one of those cowardly clauses - the same one that cost Nastic their top scorer when Madrid defeated them 2-0 with an own goal and a miss-hit assist.

Away from home, free-kicks saw off Real Sociedad and Mallorca, they got refereeing help in a 1-1 draw against Atlético, with Guti muttering "we are so bad", sneaked past Betis 1-0 via a header from a corner, and beat Celta thanks to some weird confluence of ludicrous luck. At Mestalla, both Valencia strikers were injured and stand-in Miguel Ángel Angulo missed two sitters from a combined distance of three yards before Madrid scored with their only attack, while even their 3-3 draw at the Camp Nou, arguably Madrid's best performance, was against 10 men.

And yet ... And yet Madrid have the league's best away record, those results bring belief, and somehow they've hung in there. Mainly because the rest of the league has allowed them to.

Atlético are a joke, Zaragoza are probably not quite good enough and Valencia have had seven players out pretty much all season. Despite a 4-1 victory this weekend Sevilla are running out of steam with top scorer Freddie Kanouté hobbling from game to game as they fight on three fronts. Barcelona, meanwhile, have missed Henk Ten Cate's bad cop to Frank Rijkaard's good cop as well as suffering injuries to Messi and Eto'o, internal divisions and a dreadful pre-season, during which Ronaldinho was contractually obliged to play every game. Joan Laporta has learned nothing from the galáctico failure: despite a shattered squad, Barça fly off to play in Egypt this week.

And as they stumble - Barça have lost two in three, Sevilla have won just once in four and Valencia have been beaten three times in five - the momentum is with Madrid. So too, all of a sudden, is the football. This weekend they defeated Valencia in a huge clash at the Bernabéu - and for the first time this season they even scored a fantastic goal.

It was, declared Marca, "the move of the season; the perfect play". Which might be pushing it a bit, but it was pretty special - a fast one-touch move that ended with a Miguel Torres cross sailing over to Ruud van Nistelrooy, who battered home a brilliant volley. Valencia fought back to 1-1 through Fernando Morientes but then lost their best player, Joaquín, to injury. And while Quique Sánchez Flores looked to the bench and saw three youth-teamers, a winger he doesn't want and Hugo Viana (yes, that one), Fabio Capello looked to his and saw José Antonio Reyes, Guti, Cicinho, Antonio Cassano and David Beckham - the man whose ability to be reborn is matched only by his ability to get really rubbish tattoos. Becks came on and within minutes had delivered the perfect free-kick for Sergio Ramos to score: 2-1, and three massive points.

But if that was good news, there was even better news from Villarreal last night where Barça lost 2-0. Suddenly the league, as the Spanish say, is "in a hankie". Not because it's a load of old toss, which it is, but because it's desperately close. Barça are top with Sevilla trailing by a solitary point and Madrid one more behind them. Then there's Zaragoza and Valencia, just four adrift. Somehow, a camel can clean his ear with his tongue and Madrid can win the league.

Ugh.

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What was he smoking when he said that???????????????? It's the dumbest thing I've heard! If Barelona don't win it's cause you didn't play well enough, period! Same for Sevilla, despite their heavy schedule. If we win it's cause we did enough to deserve it, period. We have the hardest schedule left and if we win the title, it'll be well deserved. So, Barleona desrve it automatically because of the past few years??? That would be so egotistical and absurd to think that way!

Canizares doesn't give credit to the other teams. Perhaps all top teams are "so bad" because the level of overall talent in La Liga is a bit better? I'd like to think so. Anyway, at least we have areason to be "bad". With all the newcomers and changes and Capello....well, I am surprised we are only 2 points behind. We're practically rebuilding for the last few seasons while Barelona have been playing together and have the same team for a few years now. I say we're not too bad considering these factors. What's other teams' excuses

 

[Vedran-10]

Well, I don't know if he was smoking anything, but I agree with him. Just read again how your season was going... fluke after fluke. We had Eto'o and Messi injured, which cuts our attacking force in half, at least. But, despite that, I am aware we should be doing a lot better. With or without Eto'o and Messi, we should have had better results.

No, I don't think we deserve it because we've won it in the last two seasons. I think Sevilla are _most deserving_ of the title, and Madrid are _least deserving_. I honestly think it would be a disgrace if you won it, because you were much luckier than us and Sevilla. The amount of flukes for you exceed those of Barca and Sevilla. I wouldn't mind if Sevilla takes it. With the way we're playing, the title is a huge feat. But if Sevilla do it, we can say the best team won.

btw don't use the rebuilding as an excuse. Capello is hardly rebuilding. Robinho is barely playing (talk about preparing a future Madrid star) and you bought youngsters Cannavaro, Emerson and Ruud. You have an interesting rebuilding policy, because I don't think those players will be playing for much longer.
You SHOULD be rebuilding, but you can't since Capello is managing the team.

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

Oh Dear Dear....what excuses. Whoever wins it wins it and deserves it, period. The team with the most points deserves to win. Of course you would be sore if we won it since you probably have a complex, it's understandable. Personally I think Sevilla are the best team in La Liga and I wouldn't mind them winning if we can't. We weren't at all expected to do this good this year so winning it would be a treat. On the other hand, you should win it, lets see if you can. About Messi and Etoo, that is a good point I must say. But you are Barcelona and your depth should have taken care of that. Rijkaard has made alot of dumb moves and that was also a big problem for you guys. Saviola is more than adequate to fill in the goal scoring so.....

We probably won't win the league since we have the toughest schedule left and we aren't that consistant.

We have been fortunate at times but so have Barelona, especially in the beginning off the season (you know what I'm talking about!). Actually, we have lost almost every time you guys lost or drew + we had at least 2 obvious referee *** ups this season!!! So please don't make it seem like it's a miracle that we are 2 points behind. Truth is that everytime things are going either good or fair for us, there's always the MADRIDITIS bug going around! And furthermore truth is that it hurts so bad cause you wish you were best overall...Bye Bye!

 

[big al]

Oh Dear Dear....what excuses. Whoever wins it wins it and deserves it, period. The team with the most points deserves to win. Of course you would be sore if we won it since you probably have a complex, it's understandable. Personally I think Sevilla are the best team in La Liga and I wouldn't mind them winning if we can't. We weren't at all expected to do this good this year so winning it would be a treat. On the other hand, you should win it, lets see if you can. About Messi and Etoo, that is a good point I must say. But you are Barcelona and your depth should have taken care of that. Rijkaard has made alot of dumb moves and that was also a big problem for you guys. Saviola is more than adequate to fill in the goal scoring so.....

We probably won't win the league since we have the toughest schedule left and we aren't that consistant.

We have been fortunate at times but so have Barelona, especially in the beginning off the season (you know what I'm talking about!). Actually, we have lost almost every time you guys lost or drew + we had at least 2 obvious referee *** ups this season!!! So please don't make it seem like it's a miracle that we are 2 points behind. Truth is that everytime things are going either good or fair for us, there's always the MADRIDITIS bug going around! And furthermore truth is that it hurts so bad cause you wish you were best overall...Bye Bye!

i have no problem if madrid would win it, cause i know what i saw thruw out the season and i already know who is who and what is what.
what i do have a problem is "la mentalidad voluble" from merengues, not so long ago madridistas were talking that their own team was rubbish, and that they were playing for nothing and no one, that theirs was and inmense crisis, now two points behind everything is fine and dandy all of a sudden. its like week in week out you guys loose and win the league. its not even funny.
merengues cant talk about deserving mate when you just dont believe it for sure; i seen some comments here and their trying to pump up yourselves if in case madrid do win it; just listen to your selfs mate: if we dont win it well hey we just didnt expect to win it this season so who cares, but if you do win it, well good its was well deserved, its like you guys are tryng to find a safe passage either way, sincerely thats crap in my book.

i knew in my heart when barca lost to sevilla, valencia and zaragoza, that i coulndt look back and smile if somehow we do win la liga, it just doesnt feel like glory, it feels like leftovers. And for you guys it seems like it doesnt bother you that much , its winning at all costs no matter what were the standarts, cause at least you might think madrid would have a reason to be conceited over every other team and finish the "sequia" of titles, when in reality you guys were so lucky to make more then a half of the sum of points you talk about ,its like saying: hey who cares how we won it we made the most points so its well deserve, meanwhile you still failing to see the big picture that making the most points hasnt solve your current problems; so you can keep saying who ever makes the most points will deserve it, still that doesnt apply with you guys not on any terms.

just my two cents mate, you dont need to answer me now , do it after the season is done and tell me if i was wrong or right.

 

[Vedran-10]

Oh Dear Dear

Articles are comparing the weirdest things on Earth to your chances of winning the league, so obviously it's not just biased Barca fans that think you should be as far away from the title as possible. Read the article I posted again and honestly tell me you'd deserve the title if you won it. Seriously, I don't know how in the blue hell you're still in the race.

I'm sure I must have complexes, all of us do, but I don't think it has anything to do with Real Madrid.

And what hurts me is that, with the team we have, the title should have been won a long time ago. We have by far the best individuals, but I don't know why they're not clicking the way they were in the last two seasons.

 

[Num Lock]

take it from a neutral

but the reason for barca not winning (if you don't actually win it) is Rijkaard's love for his players, he doesn't play an actual system he plays whatever favours the players he has, and that's fine when they are healthy but as soon as one gets injured you just can't make the team be as efficient as before, example Eto'o, he's so in love with his players no matter how bad they are performing that he kept Marques and Puyol at the back instead of trying to build chemistry by playing Thuram and i'm sorry but Tutu is better than both, he tried with Gudjonsen who was a newcomer to Barca and la liga instead of giving Saviola a fair chance who is not only a better striker than Gudj but already knows la liga, so look no further than your own club for not actually winning it.

 

[Socrates]

i have no problem if madrid would win it, cause i know what i saw thruw out the season and i already know who is who and what is what.
what i do have a problem is "la mentalidad voluble" from merengues, not so long ago madridistas were talking that their own team was rubbish, and that they were playing for nothing and no one, that theirs was and inmense crisis, now two points behind everything is fine and dandy all of a sudden. its like week in week out you guys loose and win the league. its not even funny.
merengues cant talk about deserving mate when you just dont believe it for sure; i seen some comments here and their trying to pump up yourselves if in case madrid do win it; just listen to your selfs mate: if we dont win it well hey we just didnt expect to win it this season so who cares, but if you do win it, well good its was well deserved, its like you guys are tryng to find a safe passage either way, sincerely thats crap in my book.

i knew in my heart when barca lost to sevilla, valencia and zaragoza, that i coulndt look back and smile if somehow we do win la liga, it just doesnt feel like glory, it feels like leftovers. And for you guys it seems like it doesnt bother you that much , its winning at all costs no matter what were the standarts, cause at least you might think madrid would have a reason to be conceited over every other team and finish the "sequia" of titles, when in reality you guys were so lucky to make more then a half of the sum of points you talk about ,its like saying: hey who cares how we won it we made the most points so its well deserve, meanwhile you still failing to see the big picture that making the most points hasnt solve your current problems; so you can keep saying who ever makes the most points will deserve it, still that doesnt apply with you guys not on any terms.

just my two cents mate, you dont need to answer me now , do it after the season is done and tell me if i was wrong or right.

Which Madrid fan do you know that thinks everything is fine and great? Most of them say the same thing, we still have lots of old players that need to go and so does Capello. Safe passage way out? No, not at all. But if we do win than great and if not than whatever. It is what it is. There is no excues because no matter what happens I still want the same summer move's ( RC, Salgado, Helguera, Fabio, Emerson, Capello, and etc gone and some nice moves like a young CB and actually have wingers for next season instead of fake wingers like Higuain and Robinho who we use right now ).

Who ever said that our probelms are being solved? No one that I know of thinks like that and we all know how lucky we are trust me but if Sevilla and Barca can't take advantage of it than that's there fault and they have only themselves to blame. In the end the team with the most points deserves it ( it could be Barca or Sevilla or Madrid ) because in the end they got the points and that's what matter's in the league. I don't see how a team can deserve the title if they finish behind antoher team? And like I said before even if we win the title I still want the damn changes to happen in the summer no matter what happens.

Vedran-10 - I will be honest that I did not read your long post but I am guessing it's pretty much the same as everone else ( other than Madrid fan's ) have been saying? I thing I won't get is how is it deserved for Sevilla or Barca if they finish in second instead of first? It's their own faults for not taking advantage of the situation and running away with the league. If we do win it, it will be down to luck, FR making stupid decision's, and Sevilla playing too much games but even still we have had to make the same amount of point's as you guys had Sevilla have so I don't see how one team can deserve it more than the other. Lets use a match for example, if Man Utd take 100 shots at goal but fail to score while we score on our only 1 chance than we deserve it because we were effective and did what we needed to do.

BTW posting a article by Sid Lowe? haha , when has he ever not written an article that does not bash Madrid? All the article's I have read from him have been the same thing for the most part when it comes to Madrid.

 

[big al]

Which Madrid fan do you know that thinks everything is fine and great? Most of them say the same thing, we still have lots of old players that need to go and so does Capello. Safe passage way out? No, not at all. But if we do win than great and if not than whatever. It is what it is. There is no excues because no matter what happens I still want the same summer move's ( RC, Salgado, Helguera, Fabio, Emerson, Capello, and etc gone and some nice moves like a young CB and actually have wingers for next season instead of fake wingers like Higuain and Robinho who we use right now ).

Who ever said that our probelms are being solved? No one that I know of thinks like that and we all know how lucky we are trust me but if Sevilla and Barca can't take advantage of it than that's there fault and they have only themselves to blame. In the end the team with the most points deserves it ( it could be Barca or Sevilla or Madrid ) because in the end they got the points and that's what matter's in the league. I don't see how a team can deserve the title if they finish behind antoher team? And like I said before even if we win the title I still want the damn changes to happen in the summer no matter what happens.

Vedran-10 - I will be honest that I did not read your long post but I am guessing it's pretty much the same as everone else ( other than Madrid fan's ) have been saying? I thing I won't get is how is it deserved for Sevilla or Barca if they finish in second instead of first? It's their own faults for not taking advantage of the situation and running away with the league. If we do win it, it will be down to luck, FR making stupid decision's, and Sevilla playing too much games but even still we have had to make the same amount of point's as you guys had Sevilla have so I don't see how one team can deserve it more than the other. Lets use a match for example, if Man Utd take 100 shots at goal but fail to score while we score on our only 1 chance than we deserve it because we were effective and did what we needed to do.

BTW posting a article by Sid Lowe? haha , when has he ever not written an article that does not bash Madrid? All the article's I have read from him have been the same thing for the most part when it comes to Madrid.

well you havent seen anyone you know that may be, but i had , look deeply into your thread , nonetheless my comments werent only refering to this forums , like i mention i seen here and their, and i am talking about hardcore spanish forums too, theirs some objetive opinions about the matter but in the end all merengues say the same thing; everysecond they come closer to the title ( well at least thats what they think) they are trying to pump up the situation with comments like" if we do win it its going to be well deserved cause we got the most points" but still leaving a safe passage if for some reason madrid fails by saying " we didnt expect the title anyways",
so like i mention before if madrid wins the league they win it plain and simple i never said otherwise, but i still dont agree it will be well deserved, other teams missing to take advantage its not madrids fault, but it doesnt make madrid worthy either, look at it this way, do you see madrid as a worthy champion?, getting the most points will get you to lift the cup, but theirs a big diference beetwen lifting a cup and beeing worthy of it, i just cant imagine any madrid fan saying with a straight face that it was a well deserved season cause they got the most points. then again i can.

the funny thing is all this ranting started cause orgullo brought up the subject lol; no one here made a peep about it until orgullo brought it up; like the saying goes " if the shoe fits" well lol.

 

[Drvar]

And what hurts me is that, with the team we have, the title should have been won a long time ago. We have by far the best individuals, but I don't know why they're not clicking the way they were in the last two seasons.

Hah, if you wouldnt have that avatar and sig, people could think you are talking about Real Madrid of the past 3 seasons .

 

[Jaouadinho]

its like you guys are tryng to find a safe passage either way, sincerely thats crap in my book.

I could say the same thing about you guys, if you win the league you will say ah it was deserved we were the better team blah blah blah, and if you dont and we do you will say oh they didnt deserve it it was all luck they were poor all season blah blah blah.

no one expected us to play great football and score great goals this season, we just wanted to win and we dont care how we done it that is why we have got capello as coach, any one who expected for us to be playing great exiting football must have beeen drunk.

and for the second half of the season we have gone for a bit of a transitional period, we changed our formation to a 4 4 2 instead of a 4 2 3 1, gago and higauin came traight into the team having never played in europe before, when yo u change the whole system it is going to take a bit of time to get adjusted.

 

[Vedran-10]

Hah, if you wouldnt have that avatar and sig, people could think you are talking about Real Madrid of the past 3 seasons .

Good one.

I could say the same thing about you guys, if you win the league you will say ah it was deserved we were the better team blah blah blah, and if you dont and we do you will say oh they didnt deserve it it was all luck they were poor all season blah blah blah.

I think we're more deserving than you. Anyway, I'm aware Sevilla have been the best team throughout the season and they deserve it the most.

 

[Socrates]

I think we're more deserving than you. Anyway, I'm aware Sevilla have been the best team throughout the season and they deserve it the most.

I don't see how any team can deserve the title if they don't wint he games that is needed to win. As far as I can conserend I would ban every Sevilla player for being diving whores but that's just me.

big al - It's simple, if we have more points we win. If we got more points than we deserve it because we actually won the games ( are you judging by how we play? ). I don't see what this whole deserving crap is about, if a team deserves it than they will get it done in the end and if not than that's there probelm, they were not good enough to take the title.

 

[Jaouadinho]

Good one.



I think we're more deserving than you. Anyway, I'm aware Sevilla have been the best team throughout the season and they deserve it the most.

in 03-04 season i could say we desrved it more that year as well, but i dont remember madridistas making a big fuss about it when we ended up 4th that year. valencia had more points then us so they in my book deserved it more.

 

[Dream Team]

take it from a neutral

but the reason for barca not winning (if you don't actually win it) is Rijkaard's love for his players, he doesn't play an actual system he plays whatever favours the players he has, and that's fine when they are healthy but as soon as one gets injured you just can't make the team be as efficient as before, example Eto'o, he's so in love with his players no matter how bad they are performing that he kept Marques and Puyol at the back instead of trying to build chemistry by playing Thuram and i'm sorry but Tutu is better than both, he tried with Gudjonsen who was a newcomer to Barca and la liga instead of giving Saviola a fair chance who is not only a better striker than Gudj but already knows la liga, so look no further than your own club for not actually winning it.

It's normal that when we don't have Eto'o, Ronaldinho or Messi the team is not so efficient. They're too important and hardly replaceable.

Thuram is in the lists of players to leave in the summer. He's 35 years old and the Camp Nou is too big for him, he's too slow. Everytime he tries to run more than 15 metres he gets injured for a couple of weeks. Most of the times he doesn't even try and Puyol has to save his ass. When he's been fit he's played almost always, so I don't know why you're complaining.

Saviola had his moment. He played some great games but then after a couple of disastrous games he returned to the bench and it's only fair that Gudjohnsen gets some chances too.

 

[Vedran-10]

It's like you're playing the best you can plus having lots of luck, and you're still 2 pts behind in a season when Barca are playing their worst football in the last four seasons. The difference in quality is far greater, not just between Barca and Madrid but also between Sevilla and Madrid.

I think we'd practically be champions already if Eto'o and Messi hadn't been injured for so long. On the other hand, Sevilla would have been far away if they weren't stretched between three competitions. So basically, you're the team that got lucky twice, since in normal conditions, without an insane amount of luck, you'd be struggling somewhere between 5th and 7th, I reckon, with Barcelona and Sevilla battling out the title.


I don't want you to chalk this up to me being a Barcelona fan. I don't like to see Madrid win anything, but I'd also congratulate you on any deserved title. The problem is, this season you've been far worse than Barca and Sevilla and you definitely don't deserve to take the cup. Hell, even we don't deserve it, but at least we weren't so lucky and we can argue that we have a team good enough to escape with the league, while your team can compete only in "extreme" conditions like these. I don't mind when the best team wins, but this season is ridiculous. Even you Merengues cursed Capello countless times because you know your team is bad, and you know that our biggest problems this season have been very serious injuries, and yet you think that you're amongst those who would rightfully take the league.
FFS, tell me if you can remember the last time you outnumbered Barcelona at the Camp Nou? See how lucky you are that Oleguer decided to do one of the stupidest things in his career in that very match. The whole season is just crazy, and I don't know how else to express myself.

I'm so agitated because I always thought that the league was the only competition where the best team always wins. I was certain that, if you have the best squad, you'll win, and nothing can stand up to quality through 38 games. But now, for the first time since I follow football, it's become doubtful. I don't know what's going on anymore. I know the CL is a gamble, and you have to have more luck than quality to win it, but the league... It's been a traumatic season and now this. I've never seen a team play such bad football and still be in for the title, and it's sad for me to see that such things can happen.

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

not so long ago madridistas were talking that their own team was rubbish, and that they were playing for nothing and no one, that theirs was and inmense crisis, now two points behind everything is fine and dandy all of a sudden. its like week in week out you guys loose and win the league. its not even funny.

By a Real Madrid standard, we are rubbish but by an average team standard we are good. No, everything is not fine and dandy, far from it. Like I said, I wouldn't bet on us winning since we have the toughest schedule left but I think it's a decent possibility. I have no problem witht he truth unlike other people. You Barelona fans feel that you deserve it cause of the last 2 years...sorry but the points do not lie. Who ever ends up with the most points deserves it. Truth is that you cannot stand to see us win any trophy and will always make up excuses. We will return to greatness eventually, like always, it's a matter of time. 100 years of our clubs history shows that we always come back to winning. Losing years happens with all the big clubs, it's just our turn and I think the end of the cycle is near....

Good try Vedran & Co. but your point of not deserving makes no sense.

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

Points don't lie. I'll say it once again....WHOEVER GETS THE MOST POINTS DESERVES TO WIN!!! It's very simple. You Barelona people just can;t accept that with our
"terrible" side we are just 2 points behind you...which will make you what? really bad? Does "deserving" atitle mean beautiful football? Does it mean winning by 3-4 goals per game? Don't think so.

 

[Lean]

Wasnt for Barcelona's incompetence this league would be over some few rounds ago. Now i can seriously see Sevilla winning the league, even tho Barca are the favorites.

As for Real, sorry man, but you guys winning the league would be one of the biggest jokes ever.

 

[djgperu1]

Wasnt for Barcelona's incompetence this league would be over some few rounds ago. Now i can seriously see Sevilla winning the league, even tho Barca are the favorites.

As for Real, sorry man, but you guys winning the league would be one of the biggest jokes ever.

i believe otherwise... if it wasnt for real madrid's ****ty home games... we would be definetely on top...
considering that we have the most away wins
i believe we can do it

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

i believe otherwise... if it wasnt for real madrid's ****ty home games... we would be definetely on top...
considering that we have the most away wins
i believe we can do it

Not to mention we have the 3rd best defense (better than Barelona), not to mention ref really really screwed up the game 2 weeks ago, would have = us in 1st place, not to mention Capello is a joke, not to mention we have been rebuilding (that's a fact). So, all things considering, I'd say we're not tooo bad. The anti madridismo is everywhere and I quite enjoy it. I would hate to be ateam no one cares about, talks about and feel indifferent about. Somos grandes!