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Fifa 08 Best Youngs

StevePitts

Senior Squad
bob_ng_1989;2429656 said:
have anyone found Ian Livesey or Jerry Nelsen? my scout cant find him despite many attempts..
If this works the same as FIFA 07 (and I see no reason why not - these areas don't seem to have changed between the two versions) then I doubt you will find them by scouting, any more than you'd find Goeke or Drill in FIFA 07 by scouting. You will have to be patient and hope they get signed to a computer controlled team and you can sign them away. Just like Goeke/Drill they will be damned expensive though, because they start at such a high level.

Ashman23;2430149 said:
I think someone is blowing smoke up our a$ses.
How so?? If you have DB Master (or UniDB or some other similar tool) then you can find those players for yourself and see that their individual attributes are high enough to produce the overall rating given. I don't know of any tools other than my dump programs that will calculate the overall ratings, but you can always create a player that matches the attributes found in the database to prove that I'm not talking rubbish.

sreg0r;2432740 said:
I'm still trying to figure out how the good/normal/elite/quick growth type and potential relate
I believe that this is all unchanged from FIFA 07, so I'll quote myself from the archives on the official EA UK forums:

"Each combination of development style (eg. Elite, Sleeper) and development type (eg. Early Bloomer) maps to one of fifteen curves along which the player's skill attributes develop. The type is also used to map to one of three curves for physical attribute development (ie. acceleration, sprint speed, stamina, strength and GK reflexes).

The shape of the Average, Gifted and Elite curves are essentially the same - a steady increase to a plateau of several years and then a gradual decline - but Elite players generally grow a little more and spend a little longer at or near peak than Gifted, and Gifted a little more than Average. The shape of the other two styles is fairly obvious from their names, with Short Prime being similar to Average but taking slightly longer to peak and then falling away almost immediately and Sleeper showing little or no improvement for some years before suddenly blossoming to a plateau that is similar to Elite but generally shorter.

However, the thing to bear in mind with development curves is that they are not the be-all and end-all when it comes to player growth because there is an overriding cap to improvements - the player's potential value (which is hidden even for created players). Thus an Elite player may suddenly stop growing because they've reached their potential rather than the plateau of their curve whilst an Average player continues to grow because they have the room to do so under their potential."

On top of all that you have the XP system to factor in, which has two effects (bugs notwithstanding) in that it provides a boost to potential of anything between 1 and 9 points (or more accurately between the learningspeed value and four more than that value) plus boosts to individual attributes (which are still capped by potential).
 

Ashman23

Reserve Team
StevePitts;2433005 said:
How so?? If you have DB Master (or UniDB or some other similar tool) then you can find those players for yourself and see that their individual attributes are high enough to produce the overall rating given. I don't know of any tools other than my dump programs that will calculate the overall ratings, but you can always create a player that matches the attributes found in the database to prove that I'm not talking rubbish.

Yeah, sorry . I've since found the names listed, just thought they sounded too good to be true. I didn't have 07 so didn't know about scouting for really high players to be a real thing. Good to see you're OK, too Steve.
 

StevePitts

Senior Squad
tmle04;2433583 said:
what is LIONEL MESSI growth??? whats his OVERALL after a certain seasons?
If left on a computer controlled team he will reach 93 in season three and stay there for ten or eleven seasons. If signed to the manager's team he should get a potential boost of at least five, and thus will end up with a potential of either 98 or 99, which should see him reach at least 97 (and probably 98) in either season three or four.
 

MarkMis

Club Supporter
Messi:

In year 4 he's 93 in my game, but get this. He's also worth 31,000,000 pounds. I can't round up that much cash.
 

bob_ng_1989

Club Supporter
StevePitts;2433898 said:
If left on a computer controlled team he will reach 93 in season three and stay there for ten or eleven seasons. If signed to the manager's team he should get a potential boost of at least five, and thus will end up with a potential of either 98 or 99, which should see him reach at least 97 (and probably 98) in either season three or four.

my messi is 97 in season 3.... btw,StevePitts how did u find out abt such things?
 

tmle04

Club Supporter
so who should i buy messi or pato or CR7 or Rooney.......???? from what i heard they all can reach 99......
 

StevePitts

Senior Squad
bob_ng_1989;2434182 said:
StevePitts how did u find out abt such things?
Because I spent a lot of time figuring out how player growth worked in FIFA 07, so that my EAFFAnalyser utility could output accurate overall ratings when reporting on career mode, and nothing seems to have changed in that regard for FIFA 08.
 

tmle04

Club Supporter
who should i buy MESSI or PATO or CR7 or ROONEY.......???? from what i heard they all can reach 99......
 

sreg0r

Club Supporter
Get Pato in your first season as his price increases the most and they are fairly evenly matched after 5/6 years.

tmle04;2434412 said:
who should i buy MESSI or PATO or CR7 or ROONEY.......???? from what i heard they all can reach 99......
 

Ashman23

Reserve Team
tmle04;2434412 said:
who should i buy MESSI or PATO or CR7 or ROONEY.......???? from what i heard they all can reach 99......


Maybe you should find out for yourself and not keep posting the same post until someone answers you.
 

goodydic

Club Supporter
just a quick query....if you edit a player's age or his stats, will that have an effect on his growth throughout a season? example... if i change Messi's age to 16, will he still peak at the same age? or earlier....
 

chiboygeorge

Club Supporter
goodydic;2435868 said:
just a quick query....if you edit a player's age or his stats, will that have an effect on his growth throughout a season? example... if i change Messi's age to 16, will he still peak at the same age? or earlier....

Yes...It also depends on the type of growth you edit him into

Ex. Elite, Gifted, Average etc. all have different peak
 

Ashman23

Reserve Team
Found another one in France. C Seigre CB starts at 76 then by year 4 is 86. Found him in my third year so I can't see how much he will peak at.
 

StevePitts

Senior Squad
goodydic;2435868 said:
if you edit a player's age or his stats, will that have an effect on his growth throughout a season?
Yes. In general terms if you make a player younger then they will grow further. Any increase to attributes will be amplified by the growth system.
 

goodydic

Club Supporter
StevePitts;2436197 said:
Yes. In general terms if you make a player younger then they will grow further. Any increase to attributes will be amplified by the growth system.

okey dokey thnx for that
 

SC sXe

Club Supporter
Where do you find the development curve for players on your team? Feels like I've searched everywhere...
 

pernunz

Club Supporter
Why hasn't anyone here mentioned Jesus Navas from PSV?

He starts at 85 ovr, in my team (2014 atm) he's 97 when played on LM

Also, something i noticed, it seems that each league has a hidden rating, because as you search lower leagues, players overall stats drop and hence prices drop.

Arsenal got relegated in my season with west ham (hahahaha they had a + GD as well) which was pure coincidence, so next transfer window i searched for and bought fabregas and van persie for a combined $21M. (11M and 10M) When i bought them they're overalls rose by about 8-10 each, and values went to a combined $45M. I also noticed that by buying players from rest of the world, CCC brazilian and dutch leagues give best overall improvements
 

Tawalkana

Youth Team
I just started a new season with West Ham.

Season 1 -- Season 2
ST Bojan - 76 -- 81
ST Craig Bellamy 78 -- 79
ST Carlton Cole 73 -- 74
ST Victor Mosses 58 -- 62
CAM Giovanni Dos Santos 76 -- 81
CAM Kieron Dyer 79 -- 79
CM Scott Parker 82 -- 84
CM Jermaine Jenas 78 -- 79
CM Denilson 76 -- 81
CM Mark Noble 72 -- 76
RM Fredric Ljundberg 81 -- 80
RB Glenn Johnson 76 -- 77
RB Jonathon Spector 68 -- 71
CB Anton Ferdinand 78 -- 84
CB Matthew Upson 79 -- 81
CB James Collins 72 -- 73
CB Breno 65 -- 69
LB Brayan Angulu 61 -- 63
GK Felipe 76 -- 79
GK Eastwood 56 -- 59

Season 2 Pickups
ST Edu 81
CB Robert Huth 83

I have been searching for that Cameroon Striker and have yet to find him... my guy has been on constant search :p

Giovanni Dos Santos
Kerlon
Alexandre Pato
Fabregas
Denilson
Anderson
Nani
Babel
Edu
Altidore
Felipe

are probably some of the better player young players in the game. with this west ham season I went dumpster diving looking for young players at ages 16/17. I found 3 that could probably help my squad out eventually(Victor Moses, Breno, Brayan Angulu) Only time will tell though.
 


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