FIFA 14 - First Details

[bangus]

We can talk about PES flaws a lot, but PES 2013 in terms of gameplay improvements is in front of FIFA 13 big time... Dont get me wrong here, I'm no fanboy of either of these games. I speak from neutral position.

Look, I would prefer playing a quality PES game to FIFA. PES was a real football sim years ago while FIFA has never been one. That said, I really don't understand what you mean by improvements to PES. The game is flat out broken out of the box, it's a mess. It's been unplayable for years.

 

[Waldo1639]

Look, I would prefer playing a quality PES game to FIFA. PES was a real football sim years ago while FIFA has never been one. That said, I really don't understand what you mean by improvements to PES. The game is flat out broken out of the box, it's a mess. It's been unplayable for years.

I would not said its unplayable, but gameplay improvements from PES 2012 and 2013 are very visible, too bad they messed up already very old style and the same Master League. As said, we can talk a lot of PES gameplay flaws (AI cheating, mainly), but imo its better then FIFA's... From defending, positioning, player individuality to teams playing style etc. Have you played PES 2013, and I don't mean 20 games before you made conclusion it's unplayable?

 

[Rabzyxor]

I'm confused. What do my game settings and feelings about FIFA's default gameplay have to do with discussions about how many PC units are sold each year?

Sorry, I was pointing out (explaining) to AmfdCrossB, about your feelings for Fifa`s GP, so ... (not that he can`t read) you seem very upset about pc sales (did they fire you from Marketing and Sales). Nothing to do with what he ( AmfdCrossB ) said.

I do play on manual, and I expect sports video games to realistically simulate the actual sport.

Not possible, at least for now, else EA would have moved to Robotics with their A.I. (lot of money in that.) I think we are idolizing EA too much, they make mistakes like us, Fifa 12 was a big boost for us, 13 and now 14 lacks that. If you look around this forum itself, you`ll find a lot of us are into faces, boots, tats etc., (very few purist who are into GP`s) so, EA has to come up with a brand new engine to appeal us,(hopefully a better GP too) yes it won`t be perfect, but the modding community is there for a reason.

They've stopped making PC versions of their hockey and football games, so who knows if we'll still have a PC version of FIFA in a year or two.

Don`t say that you`re making me twitch. Anyways Hockey and American Football is a totally different market, they won`t give it to Konami on a plate after 12/13 and 14. We all rooted for EA when we bought the game, so the least we could do is give them some time, pray and hope for the best.

Your input on GP`s are highly regarded by your peers, (AP, RC and the rest of the gang, including myself) so I hope you`ll stay optimistic about 14 and beyond.

P.S. don`t go turbo with PES.

 

[bangus]

Have you played PES 2013, and I don't mean 20 games before you made conclusion it's unplayable?

I played the demo for two weeks. The CPU would either charge straight up the pitch or lob the ball ahead to the FW, that was the strategy for every team. The GK programming and AI was horrific as usual. And the ball/shooting physics were all wrong: the ball felt like a balloon, and every player could get off quality shots regardless of his body positioning. Some (not all) of that can be fixed with mods and edits. But it's almost the principle of thing at this point. If Konami insists on putting put a game that plays that poorly out of the box, year after year, then I'm just not going to support them. How can they get so much, so wrong? It's like they don't even bother testing their games to see how they actually play.

 

[bangus]

Your input on GP`s are highly regarded by your peers, (AP, RC and the rest of the gang, including myself) so I hope you`ll stay optimistic about 14 and beyond.

Thanks, I appreciate that. I'm happy with FIFA, I play it more than I play Left4Dead! Seriously, with all the available gp mods and after some editing, I'm having more fun with the game than I've had with any sports game.

 

[Ylem]

I don't care that much about graphics, although an improvement would always be nice. I'm just caring about gameplay and different oline modes. I want the same ones the consoles have. I simply want to play virtual Bundesliga.
But I don't see this coming and buying a PS3 oder xbox720 just for FIFA...I don't know..

 

[bangus]

I want the same ones the consoles have. I simply want to play virtual Bundesliga. But I don't see this coming and buying a PS3 oder xbox720 just for FIFA...I don't know..

Why would you do that? This year's console/PC versions are going to be the same as last year's. EA isn't going next-gen until FIFA 15.

 

[Cris-9]

I want much different news in fifa 14.well last year I like it but I want very big things on the new fifa

 

[Waldo1639]

I doubt FIFA 14 will have BIG changes in terms of both gameplay or graphics.

 

[kanfur66]

I think it will not change much in terms of graphics.unfortunately

 

[davidmende]

... and they (EA) are maybe not planning to acquire big licenses (turkish, argentinian, etc), so in the meantime this game is just FIFA 13.5.

 

[Fifamonkey2012]

I just think it will be more about adding more faces adding leagues, updating stats, adding the features mentioned, switching menus around, adding career features mentioned (not so much said so far apart from youth scouting) .. with some updated graphically here and there .. usual things every year. I dont think it will jump much graphically only until next year onwards.

On a side note i saw the videos for what PES is doing with new engine and as much as clothing physics looked nice most of it you cant appreciate unless its a cut scene, also I thought the models and clothing looked like the players were in space suits or wind tunnels and the models and hands were very rounded and manikin looking .. wasn't overly impressed with that "next gen" look.

 

[bangus]

On a side note i saw the videos for what PES is doing with new engine and as much as clothing physics looked nice most of it you cant appreciate unless its a cut scene, also I thought the models and clothing looked like the players were in space suits or wind tunnels and the models and hands were very rounded and manikin looking .. wasn't overly impressed with that "next gen" look.

Where did you see these PES vids? Link? As for clothing closeups, I play with the Pro cam in FIFA which provides nice closeups of the players while playing (and closeups of goal celebrations BTW). PES' Player cam is even closer to the player, so the cloth physics addition might be something you'd be able to see and appreciate while playing.

 

[Fifamonkey2012]

I need to log out now but its the Fox promo vids, unless they are rendered stock and Im wrong of course the ones that show headers and face / clothing physics on youtube.

For the extra processing of clothing physics I dont think you can really play this game and be so close to fully appreciate its detail for the trade off. Cut scenes mainly, the only game that does it true justice is NBA2K13 ... that close works well enough.

If I play open game like football THAT close its such a tunnel view I would make such bad passes Anyway from those vids I wasnt blown away, models looked rounded on the hands, a bit strange.

 

[bangus]

I need to log out now but its the Fox promo vids, unless they are rendered stock and Im wrong of course the ones that show headers and face / clothing physics on youtube.

Thanks for the reply. The dude posting Fox engine analysis videos on Youtube is using PES 2013 gameplay. Whatever you saw isn't PES 2014, Konami hasn't released any material yet.

 

[Cris-9]

turkish league will be in fifa 14!now we can play with kuyt,sneijder,emre,selçuk,drogba,moussa sow,meireles,burak ylmaz,manuel fernandes etc.

 

[Fifamonkey2012]

No it wasnt that is was this but this link is a crappy low res copy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPEnR-gLnYQ

But, I think this isnt it either anyway as you say nothing been released, I just thought this was small promo of physics, is this a trailer CGI movie from PES13 or previous or something else then?

I haven't even looked at PES or forums and site so I was not sure what had been released or not.

Either way, clothing physics for the performance hit it can have on many players on the pitch will be a tricky one to manage, I guess if in 15 there will be a off switch like NBA2k.

 

[bangus]

Either way, clothing physics for the performance hit it can have on many players on the pitch will be a tricky one to manage

Plus the last thing PES needs is graphics tweaks. The entire game needs a complete overhaul, it's a mess.

 

[Waldo1639]

No it wasnt that is was this but this link is a crappy low res copy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPEnR-gLnYQ

Those are old PES trailers.

 

[Waldo1639]

Career Mode details:
http://www.ea.com/soccer/blog/fifa-14-career-mode

Teammate Intelligence:
http://www.ea.com/soccer/blog/fifa-14-teammate-intelligence