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Fifa 2004 or ISS pro evo 3?

Marco Sousa

Youth Team
Originally posted by raven_blade2002
u ppl obviously know a lot about football! Your so concerned about the gameplay that u care if your team is up to date and the players on it have true names! U ppl do know wot its like to be a dedicated footie fan! u know everything bout football :greetings: :rockman:
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raven_blade2002

Youth Team
I think they have a forum 4 u f****** winning eleven fans! And who the hell r u marco sousa? wot kind of dumb name is dat neway? Dont get involved u t**** m***** c***a ba***!
 

TristanAbbott7

Starting XI
Ha ha!

Originally posted by raven_blade2002
winning eleven 6 is not better than fifa 2003. It may have a lot of good aspects but one thing ive found out is that it has fake club names and it is not up to date. For example ARSENAL is called LONDON and they have past players such as TONY ADAMS who has retired!

Yeah, cos having to edit a club name from London to Arsenal really spoils all the gameplay right?!?!?!

Please dude, FIFA 2003 is a lump of crap. Why do you think everybody who has played both Konami and EA Sports always opt for the Konami games. The gameplay in FIFA 2003 is non-existent and everybody knows it. How can you judge games you've never even played. I've played both and so have the vast majority of other Konami gamers on here. Even people on the FIFA forums largely admit that if they had a PS2 that FIFA 2003 wouldn't see the light of day again.
 

theCRO

Senior Squad
Originally posted by raven_blade2002
id expect ppl like u to say somethin like dat. do they even play footie in new zealand? and usa guy its football not soccer go play sum rugby :rockman: :f***: punk a**

hmm maybe a subtle hint in my nickname tells ya which nationality I am, take a guess....(ps. France 98 Bronze medalists?)

In any case, you're probably 11 years old man, so I'll lay of :)
 

TristanAbbott7

Starting XI
What a dork!

Originally posted by raven_blade2002
id expect ppl like u to say somethin like dat. do they even play footie in new zealand? and usa guy its football not soccer go play sum rugby :rockman: :f***: punk a**

You have gotta be the biggest know-nothing dork that has ever appeared on these forums (and man have you had some competition over the last year or so!).

Firstly, the Brits came up with the word 'soccer' to disassociate Rugby Football from regular football. The word 'soccer' came from Association Football, hence the word soccer for a slang short word. In the end you didn't properly adopt it but some other countries did. The fact we call it soccer, the Germans, Argentinians, Japanese call it whatever, etc. is irrelevant.

I'd say everybody on this forum knows more about soccer/football than you becasue your definition of a good soccer/football game is one where the names are 100% correct as opposed to whether the game actually plays like a game of soccer/football. Go back to whatever uneducated hole you crawled out from and annoy people who find you mildly amusing rather than a retard.
 

theCRO

Senior Squad
abbott,

you'd think we'd get used to crap like this from imbecils like him over time but it never ceases to amaze me....
 

TristanAbbott7

Starting XI
Still..... ha ha!

What a great command of the English language you have. You're not worthy of replying to any further because it's like talking to a 6 year old, only worse because a 6 year old doesn't think he knows everything and swears all the time in *'s!

Get a brain, don't assume you know anything about soccer because you're fast gaining the reputation as the "forum idiot" and once you gain that title you'll be hard pressed not to get ridiculed everytime you as much as say hello on here.
 

raven_blade2002

Youth Team
u ****er

Your mums missing a finger and can't count past 9
Your mums so bald her hair looks like stitches.
Your mums so bald she curls her hair with rice.
Your mums so ballheaded when she showers she gets brainwashed
Your mums so clumsy she got tangled up in a cordless phone.
Your mums so dirty she has to creep up on bathwater.
Your mums so greasy she sweats crisco
Your mums so greasy she uses bacon as a band aid
Your mums so greasy when she slid into second she ended in detroit
Your mums blind and seeing another man.
Your mums car's so ugly, someone broke in just to steal The CLUB.
Your mums cross-eyed and watches TV in stereo.
Your mums glasses are so thick she can see into the future.
Your mums house is so dusty the roaches ride around on dune buggys
 

theCRO

Senior Squad
Originally posted by V-9
Haha. So True. Like this guy...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=39816

hahah...what a fag. I've already snapped out some dude who claimed to own both FIFA2002 and WE6 and swore FIFA was better. This is on another forum, so I asked him a few questions about WE6 and the guy had no idea, he didn't know the opening sequence or what the Konami Cup was...he was a liar. o blinded by love for FIFA he mistook it for hatred of WE6....
 

V-9

Senior Squad
Originally posted by theCRO
hahah...what a fag. I've already snapped out some dude who claimed to own both FIFA2002 and WE6 and swore FIFA was better. This is on another forum, so I asked him a few questions about WE6 and the guy had no idea, he didn't know the opening sequence or what the Konami Cup was...he was a liar. o blinded by love for FIFA he mistook it for hatred of WE6....

Here is his list complaints regarding WE6. Mind you that he wrote this after 6 games. It usually takes the average WE/PES gamers weeks before mastering the controls and new features of a new release. But apparently he thinks that he knows everything about the game after 6 games. He probably got his ARSE whoop by the CPU everytime because he CAN'T scored using the SPEED button to outrun defenders like he did with FIFA.

Here is what i see wrong with this game compared to FIFA (after 6 games played).

1) No officials. If you are looking for realism, you wont find refs in this game, which leads me to my next one

2) Fouls. The fouls are inconsistent in WE6I. Sometimes i can run with a opponent and not get called and then other times i'll get a red card. I shrug (or what it seems like) a defender off in the box and i get a PK. Im not complaing about that but i am complaining about the inconsistency.

3) Field patterns. Show me some pictures of real fields that look like that and are better then those in FIFA and i'll through away FIFA. In other words, you wont find any.

4) Commentating. Worse aspect of this game, by far. Sounds like two guys commentating two different guys at the same time. Also is redundant, needs to be improved TREMENDOUSLY.

5) Dribbling. Straight dribbling is a bore. A few cuts here and there can make any player take a run from their own 18 to the foe's 18, realism?, i think not. It doesnt end there. When there is the occasional defender in the way and you want to pass the ball, it seems you cant stop cause of the turbo. Needs to be updated.

6) Passing. The players need to make more runs, and they need to show to the ball, instead of the ball coming to them. Thats not how you play soccer, and you will lose if you do. Since thats the case, you should have the option to go to the ball and make runs. Although FIFA could use some finetuning, at least it has it.

7) Misinformed. If the graphics from the opening credits were the graphics of the real game, i wouldnt have that much of a problem, but they arent. A major dissapointment, as i was expecting updated graphics from other Konami games.

8) Strategy. Or should i say lack of. You can't adjust a strategy with your team. You have two basic strategies, a) ground pass, or b) air passing. With FIFA, you can play a game runned by the midfield, or by the defense, play a passing game, quick counterattack, and some work well with different formations (which there are more). FIFA clearly beats WE6I in this category.

9) Realism. Most important aspect in any game, especially sports. The games producers want their game to be the most realistic that it actually looks like a game on TV is being played. WE6I falls short extremely. No breath taking moves, no breath taking runs, no break taking free kicks, same old gameplay.

I've come to the conclusion of the audience Konami is trying to reach with WE6I. The game is for people who never played a soccer game and have no idea of how to play soccer, for instance new soccer fans or little kids. FIFA is more advanced. So if you can't keep up in FIFA, i can see how you will say WE6I is better. I just need a game that challenges me more, and FIFA 2003 certainly does that.

After reading his list, I seriously doubted that he even played WE6 because this guy sounds like he doesn't know the difference between his head and his arse.
 

V-9

Senior Squad
Originally posted by raven_blade2002
u ****er

Your mums missing a finger and can't count past 9
Your mums so bald her hair looks like stitches.
Your mums so bald she curls her hair with rice.
Your mums so ballheaded when she showers she gets brainwashed
Your mums so clumsy she got tangled up in a cordless phone.
Your mums so dirty she has to creep up on bathwater.
Your mums so greasy she sweats crisco
Your mums so greasy she uses bacon as a band aid
Your mums so greasy when she slid into second she ended in detroit
Your mums blind and seeing another man.
Your mums car's so ugly, someone broke in just to steal The CLUB.
Your mums cross-eyed and watches TV in stereo.
Your mums glasses are so thick she can see into the future.
Your mums house is so dusty the roaches ride around on dune buggys

Momma jokes???? Here are some more for your reading pleasure:

Yo Momma so stupid, she studied for a drug test!

Yo momma so stupid, she thought "Wu Tang" was an African orange drink!!

Yo momma so stupid she hears it's chilly outside so she gets a bowl.

Yo momma so stupid she got locked in a grocery store and starved!

Yo momma so stupid that she tried to put M&M's in alphabetical order!

Yo momma so stupid she could trip over a cordless phone!

Yo momma so stupid she sold her car for gasoline money!

Yo momma so stupid she bought a solar-powered flashlight!

Yo momma so stupid she thinks a quarterback is a refund!

Yo momma so stupid she took a ruler to bed to see how long she slept.

Yo momma so stupid when she read on her job application to not write below the dotted line she put "O.K."

Yo momma so stupid she stole free bread.

Yo momma so stupid she makes Beavis and Butt-Head look like Nobel Prize winners.

Yo momma so stupid she sits on the TV, and watches the couch!

Yo momma so stupid she bought a videocamera to record cable tv shows at home.

Yo momma so stupid she took a umbrella to see Purple Rain.

Yo momma so stupid it took her 2 hours to watch 60 minutes.

Yo momma so stupid when she saw the NC-17 (under 17 not admitted) sign, she went home and got 16 friends.

Yo momma so stupid she told everyone that she was "illegitiment" because she couldn't read.

Yo momma so stupid that she puts lipstick on her head just to make-up her mind.

Yo momma so stupid she hears it's chilly outside so she gets a spoon.

Yo momma so stupid you have to dig for her IQ!

Yo momma so stupid she got locked in a grocery store and starved.

Yo momma so stupid that she tried to put M&M's in alphabetical order!

Yo momma so stupid she could trip over a cordless phone!

Yo momma so stupid she sold her car for gasoline money!

Yo momma so stupid she thinks a quarterback is a refund!

Yo momma so stupid she took a cup to see Juice.

Yo momma so stupid that she sold the car for gas money.

Yo momma so stupid she asked you "What is the number for 911"

Yo momma so stupid she took a ruler to bed to see how long she slept.

Yo momma so stupid when she read on her job application to not write below the dotted line she put "O.K."

Yo momma so stupid she got stabbed in a shoot out.

Yo momma so stupid she stole free bread.

Yo momma so stupid she took a spoon to the superbowl.

Yo momma so stupid she called Shifty Quayle for a spell check.

Yo momma so stupid she stepped on a crack and broke her own back.

Yo momma so dumb she sits on TV & watches the couch

Yo momma so stupid she makes Beavis and Butt-Head look like Nobel Prize winners.

Yo momma so stupid she thought she needed a token to get on Soul Train.

Yo momma so stupid when asked on an application, "Sex?", she marked, "M, F and sometimes Wednesday too."

Yo momma so stupid she took the Pepsi challenge and chose Jif.

Yo momma so stupid when you stand next to her you hear the ocean!

Yo momma so stupid she thinks Fleetwood Mac is a new hamburger at McDonalds!

Yo momma so stupid she sits on the TV, and watches the couch!

Yo momma so stupid that she thought Boyz II Men was a day care center.

Yo momma so stupid she bought a videocamera to record cable tv shows at home.

Yo momma so stupid when she went to take the 44 bus, she took the 22 twice instead.

Yo momma so stupid she jumped out the window and went up.

Yo momma so stupid she thought a quarterback was an income tax refund.

Yo momma so stupid she took a umbrella to see Purple Rain.

Yo momma so stupid that under "Education" on her job application, she put "Hooked on Phonics."

Yo momma so stupid she put out the cigarette butt that was heating your house.

Yo momma so stupid she watches "The Three Stooges" and takes notes.

Yo momma so stupid was born on Independence Day and can't remember her birthday.

Yo momma so stupid she thought gangrene was another golf course.

Yo momma so stupid that she went to a Clippers game to get a hair cut.

Yo momma so stupid she couldn't read an audio book.

Yo momma so stupid it take her a month to get rid of the 7 day itch.

Yo momma so stupid she stands up on an empty bus.

Yo momma so stupid it take her a week to get rid of a 24hr virus.

Yo momma so stupid it take her a day to cook a 3 minute egg.

Yo momma so stupid She has to ask for help to use hamburger helper .

Yo momma so stupid She went to disneyworld and saw a sign that said "Disneyworld Left" so she went home.

Yo momma so stupid she asked me what kind of jeans I had on and I said "Guess" so she said "Levi's."
 

hchu

Youth Team
We all just got to know that....

WE/PES is no game for people who want a quick and easy fun "game". Those people bore out with WE/PES before even getting to know all the moves and many options laid before them.
All those silly posts are evident enough that they don't even KNOW how to play the game!! I mean... argh!!

Many immature semi football gamers, would never have the patience to understand what KCET had in mind when creating WE/PES.

Don't get me wrong, sincerely, I tried my every best to like FIFA2003 when it came out. Played that d@rn thing so many times. I did notice good improvements.. but....just no where near WE/PES...trust me on this...

There's simply just NO fre@k'n possibly way FIFA could come above WE/PES, gameplay wise.... I try to think,... think.. understand different views...but the logic the FIFA fans lay out never EVER make sense.

I could give them a whole book of generally accepted facts of why WE/PES is better then FIFA. But NEVER seen a valid argument made the other way around.


FIFA fanatics... prove me WRONG!!
 

ALVALADE-XXI

Reserve Team
Originally posted by raven_blade2002
I think they have a forum 4 u great winning eleven fans! And who the saint r u marco sousa? wot kind of wonder name is dat neway? Better get involved u wonderful human-beeing. You're so great and beautiful as your name means!

Well said, forum-idiot!!!!!:crazyboy: :crazyboy:
 

ALVALADE-XXI

Reserve Team
Originally posted by raven_blade2002
u ****er

Your mums missing have all fingers and she's a genius in Mathematics
My mum so bald her hair looks like stitches.
My mum so bald she curls her hair with rice.
My mum so ballheaded when she showers she gets brainwashed
My mum so clumsy she got tangled up in a cordless phone.
My mum so dirty she has to creep up on bathwater.
My mum so greasy she sweats crisco
My mum so greasy she uses bacon as a band aid
My mum so greasy when she slid into second she ended in detroit
My mum blind and seeing another man.
My mum car's so ugly, someone broke in just to steal The CLUB.
My mum cross-eyed and watches TV in stereo.
My mum glasses are so thick she can see into the future.
My mum house is so dusty the roaches ride around on dune buggys

Don't blame your mum for your miss-brain...you' better get rid of the drugs!!!!
 


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