Fifa Has better Graphics than PES5

[j4y3m]

The most important thing is player models really and in PES the players look a lot more realistic IMO.

FIFA has better stadium graphics though (well by default anyway) and is a bit more colourful.

I think a fully patched PES can compete in basically any catergory with FIFA, there's not one thing we can't change in this game graphics wise.

FIFA's career mode is better I think, a lot more realistic but when the gameplay on the pitch is not it's all pretty pointless.

I think most PES fans would love to see realistic league and cup formats in the Master League and to use real currency instead of "points" but we can deal with this untill Konami change it.

 

[Aquadark]

Nah, ML sucks anyway. It's all about online matches...

 

[Y2K]

Fifa doesn't have better graphics than WE. Sure Fifa's graphics is more outstanding in terms of the whole contrast, but during gameplay the graphic isn't anything outstanding. Player model, WE has always been better. WE has better graphics during gameplay. However, Fifa has got the upper hand in the presentation part. They've always had. WE can improve on the presentation.

 

[Maichal1616]

so what the heck are you arguing about now did we suddenly slip from graphics to something else

No, I'm just saying FIFA has better graphics than PES. Because some people are trying to prove the opposite. I've never said it's too much of an important thing about a game though, cause you don't pay much attention to it while playing but it's 2005 now and it's weird that some footy games have pitch textures for example that look worse than those in RTWC 98. So I'm just enlightening the ones denying the truth (in other words, banging my head against the wall) The thing that bugs me much more about PES (since I am a PC gamer), is the fact that there is no way to turn on FSAA and I must distress my eyes by playing it on 60 hz refresh rate, since it runs faster than a lightning on 85 hz.

 

[Doping]

OMG TEH ULTIMATE JUDGE!!11

Lol

 

[Rport03]

but we got games to play, not to look, don't we??

don't you??

Well in games is not only about the gameplay but how it looks too, its been all about presentation and graphics for a very long time. If games were just about the gameplay then really we'd be looking at a blanks screen, true you could pass and shoot and move but if you can't see it then whats the point?

Even on a game like Chess, the better looking the statues the more fun you could possibly have with them and the more interesting that game looks and plays. Its one thing haveing a chess piece thats all white and another having a fully colored one, its all about the visualization (maybe a bad example but still an example).

In sports games if it wasnt for presentation then each team would have plain colored kits with no type of graphic on them, no logo, no sponser no multi-colors. True it would still be a good game to watch but would be better seeing your favorite stars in a nice uniform.

Trrue back in the olden days of Atari the game were simple but they were lots of fun, but would you play an awesome but super plain 2d tank game or play an awesome 3d, super realistic tank game?

 

[Joe Star]

Using the analogy of a 2D game from the 80's & a new game and comparing that to the difference between PES & Fifa graphics is . The difference aint that big. I agree PES stadiums suck bigtime but the player models in PES are definitely better. On a side note, the original TANK or Battle City.........no matter what came after its still the best damn tank game ever
PS> I would post a screenie if i could

 

[theo]

Who gives a small dump about graphics when you've got the best gameplay ever for a soccer game?

 

[Joe Star]

Well this thread is about graphics mate

 

[NoE]

PES has way better graphics. Just look at this picture of Henry and compare it to the shiny looking players with hair that looks like paste or something in fifa.
And I have allways played fifa untill a couple of months ago when I tried out PES4, som I'm not a fan-boy!

 

[johan]

What the heck is wrong with the person who started this thread. Now I see there`s nots of graphics whores..that don`t know sh!t about either game. I`m sorry to say this but theres no WAY IN HELL that FIFA can have better graphics than WE/PES.. I mean in FIFA players look like they are using steroids and are oversized when you see `em running on the pitch + kit textures look like crap and whats up with having that shiny forehead on every player ? If you look correctly and use your eyes you will SEE that player models and looks are ten thousand times better than the ones in FIFA. Even the stadiums look better than FIFA`S BUT Konami need to improve pitch textures FIFA is better in that department.. but in PES/WE I feel like the stadiums designs are real while in FIFA it looks like someone just programmed it with some high-tech 3d program.

 

[Joe Star]

You know what would settle this? Someone should just put an in-game screenie of the fifa 06 demo against the pes5 demo, side by side.

 

[Rport03]

I tried finidng simular positions from both games, just to have a better more accurate comparison.

FIFA 06

PES5
Quick Comments:
- Both PES and FIFA have the shiny affect going on the kits.
- In FIFA the ball looks alot better than in PES.
- The kits in PES looks a bit more sharper than FIFA's in certain areas.




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FIFA 06

PES5
Quick Comments:
- Both pics still have that shiny effect going on.
- The kits in both pics look great.
- FIFA ball still looks better
- Player shadows on the pitch looks better in PES than FIFA
- Pitch textures look good in both pics.
- Billboards in FIFA look sharper



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FIFA 06

PES5
Quick Comments:
- Billboards in FIFA look Sharper
- Both Pitches are nice looking.
- Player models and Kits look sharp, even though in PES the kits are simple designed.




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FIFA 06

PES5
Quick Comments:
- PES has more the shiny effect going on, especially in the players farther out, FIFA on the other hand looks better.
- The ball in FIFA still looks better
- Kits and player models still look good in both games, again even though they are simple in PES
- Both stadiums look great, even though in FIFA's shot the sun in glaring, it makes the stadium and atmosphere look realistic.
- Even though in the shot of FIFA its hard to judge crowds, I like it how in PES the fans are wearing team colors.






Overall Opinion:

- The shiny effect are in both games and it only really apears in certain pics and positions.
- The ball overall looks alot better in FIFA.
- The kits, depending on certain positions and how zoomed in the player is looks great in both games, sharp and detailed (well seeing how PES doesnt have many licenses most of there kits are really simple in design and heck if they were to even mess that up it would be very pathedic) but when players are zoomed in you do start to notice how jaggie and bad the kits really look.
- The pitch overall look great in both games.
- The crowds do look better in FIFA but in PES they do wear team colors, which in FIFA its not all that noticable.
- Stadiums in both games look great but judging by screenshots the FIFA stadiums do look more "alive" and more in depth. But then again I couldnt really find many PES screenshots.
- The player models in both games look very good, but people complain how in FIFA the players legs look really huge and muscular, well have you seen the ones in PES, they look worse, I mean just look at the shots I posted and try explaining to me how in FIFA they look more "muscular."

In the end im not here to talk about which game I prefer, but about the graphical aspect of both games. Over all not going by videos, its hard to judge and compare both games just by looking at pics because both games look great in there own right. To me the real judging is by playing the game and seeing it in motion. You do buy games for both gameplay and graphics and if you choose either or your really fooling yourself. You could have the best gamplay but if you have really really shiity graphics then you lose that feeling of watching/playing a real game. I wont come in here and say oh FIFA is the best or is god, like some of you refer PES too, but I will say that nothing is perfect and id rather have a game where it has a nice blend of gameplay, graphics and a fun factor, not saying PES doesnt have that but just speaking in general.

For those of you who came in here and posted, screw graphics its all about gameplay im sorry but either your blind or really really dumb cuz this thread is about graphics.

Anyways sorry for the long post, hope I made a fair enough comparison.

 

[Joe Star]

hmm thats very well put. Too bad no one will be looking at this thread for sometime seeing that the forums messed up. It's true, both games look very similar in those shots. But i have seen some other screenies & the fifa players poses & movements dont really look that natural. Maybe its just my imagination though. PES stadium & background graphics do look a little drab indeed & the ball is horrible........not that i'm a big fan of EA's custom ball either.........

 

[deftonesmx17]

Looking at the post with the side by side pics.

I notice everyone is arguing over faces, hair, kits, balls, stadiums, etc. Why is not one person looking at the player models as a whole?

Now that we are looking at the player models, pay close attention to their arms and legs. The knees in FIFA are just horrid. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Now about the arms, notice how in FIFA the arms never match the players momentum. Maybe I'm just biased at this point but FIFA models have always looked unnatural.

Oh and next time make a fair comparison. When I say fair I mean both games running on your computer and at the same resolution. I say this as looking at the EA shots, FIFA doesnt look that good in most cases. EA is known for releasing super high resolution shots that are not what the game looks like. The first ingame pics for Madden 06 for the xbox 360 were released and guess what, they were in a resolution of 5120x2880. Funny as the xbox 360 has a native resolution of 1280x720

 

[Rport03]

hmm thats very well put. Too bad no one will be looking at this thread for sometime seeing that the forums messed up. It's true, both games look very similar in those shots. But i have seen some other screenies & the fifa players poses & movements dont really look that natural. Maybe its just my imagination though. PES stadium & background graphics do look a little drab indeed & the ball is horrible........not that i'm a big fan of EA's custom ball either.........

Well I have to agree with you on the FIFA models not look exactly all that natural but there not all that bad. But then again is that really considered graphics or animations/gamplay? Now in regards to the FIFA ball, me personally I don't have a big problem with it, I actually like the ball but it would be better if we had more licensed balls but then again that wish has been granted for FIFA 06. But all in all again even with the FIFA ball, it still looks better and more realistic than the PES one and isnt that what football is all about, so to me if your going to have a great football game you have to atleast make an effort to have the ball look realistic even in close ups and I havent seen much improvment with PES but with next gen consoles coming hopefully that will be fixed.

Looking at the post with the side by side pics.

I notice everyone is arguing over faces, hair, kits, balls, stadiums, etc. Why is not one person looking at the player models as a whole?

Now that we are looking at the player models, pay close attention to their arms and legs. The knees in FIFA are just horrid. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Now about the arms, notice how in FIFA the arms never match the players momentum. Maybe I'm just biased at this point but FIFA models have always looked unnatural.

Oh and next time make a fair comparison. When I say fair I mean both games running on your computer and at the same resolution. I say this as looking at the EA shots, FIFA doesnt look that good in most cases. EA is known for releasing super high resolution shots that are not what the game looks like. The first ingame pics for Madden 06 for the xbox 360 were released and guess what, they were in a resolution of 5120x2880. Funny as the xbox 360 has a native resolution of 1280x720

First I did try and point out the player models as a whole and I must agree that the knees in the FIFA games dont look that great but at the same time you could argue that in PES every players thighs look huge, so to me they both have a flaw. Regarding the arm movements like I said thats more of an animation rather than a graphic but yes they dont look all that great but its tolerable in my book. But of course anything could always be improved.

oh and for your info like I said I did try and match up the screenshots the best I could, and even though its best running both games at the same time, I just dont have that luxury to do that so I tried finind the closest shots from both games, and yes I could of gotten better shots for FIFA but chose to use the most realistic and true to what the actual game will look like. But all in all despite the quality of the pictures you could easy notice the diffrences that I pointed out anyways.

Oh and about those early Madden next gen shots, they werent from a live running in game shot. I remember reading I belive IGN.com that the screenshots and the video was only created to show what the game might look like, but not what the game actually is. Its the same thing they did for NBA Live and for FIFA. Oh and im pretty sure Konami did the same this with the MGS4 video that was released the other day, just something to show us what the PS3 could actually do and handle.

 

[deftonesmx17]

Oh and about those early Madden next gen shots, they werent from a live running in game shot. I remember reading I belive IGN.com that the screenshots and the video was only created to show what the game might look like, but not what the game actually is.

I was talking about the new ones just released last week or over the weekend.

http://www.maddenmania.com/images.html
With Microsoft recently announcing a launch date of November 22 we can now start showing off more of the product we have been working on over the past year or so. The Xbox 360 version of Madden NFL 06 is really starting to come together and I'm very excited about it. To me, the game really is looking, playing and feeling "next gen." Back in April we showed you some video of what we thought this game could be like and with each day of development that passes, I am more and more encouraged that we will be able to meet or exceed that target.

We still have several weeks left in development, so what we are releasing now not final yet; but I do want to confirm that all screens are captured from the game engine and not pre-rendered.

"but I do want to confirm that all screens are captured from the game engine and not pre-rendered."
Read that one line over and over and then think about why the screens are in a resolution of 5120x2880. Sure they may be captured from the game engine, but at a resolution that is four times what the xbox 360 can display. No matter what display you choose on an xbox 360, the native resolution is 720p (1280x720). If you use 480i/p it will be a downscaled image and if you use 1080i it will be an upscaled image. The display chip in the xbox 360 will always use a resolution of 720p. Like I said, EA captures screens in a dishonest manner.

I applaud you for doing your best to get good pics for both games. I just feel that for a fair comparison both games need to be run from the same computer and with the same resolution.

 

[MasterM]

yea those are official ea screens, they always look much better. When i played fifa06 on my pc i didnt looked like that with all settings on high. Its much worse, especially the skin and hair or the players.

 

[Shindig]

Hmmmm... too much kit bashing at PES, here. Having seen what the WE9/PES5 editor is capable of, it's possibly to get kits spot on, with a bit of editing.

It's animations that make PES look good, really. Especially with the new collision ones.

You're also overlooking the subtleties of PES. Players have different body types and physiques. I don't really see much individuality from FIFA, in that respect. With FIFA, everybody appears muscular. Not every player has thighs like that.

 

[johan]

IMHO the graphics look much better in PES/WE when you actually play the game..