napolistill#1 said:
Well I'll get back to a life as soon as the damn jet-lag wears off!!
As far as posting you really need to get yourself a perspective. I didn't post opinions, I posted facts. In the face of those facts, you simply went over each one and gave me your opinion about them. Again, whether or not you care that those items are a FIFA flaw doesn't make them any less of a flaw.
I am still waiting with baited breath for a similar gameplay-flaw list about PES/WE that doesn't say the words: atmosphere, running animations, graphics, licenses, kits, commentary, etc. But in the end I'll have to settle from the likes of you and other FIFA fans that "UCL or FIFA totally own WE/PES" just because you rented the titles on alternating weekends w/o a single factual gameplay issue listed for your reasoning.
As for beng "arrogant" I list below a quote from a post I made in this thread. Again, this thread was created for a serious discussion about gameplay merits (I don't give a crap about the eyecandy). Everything you post on a continuous basis reitirates and strengthens my opinions.
"my opinion is that most FIFA-fans, when pressed hard enough will yield that they really are in love with the graphics, presentation and licenses. Many of them can't be bothered to worry about the strategic/tactical elements. That's fine, and that doesn't make you less of a soccer fan or less knowledgeable about the sport. People play games for different reasons and the shiny coat of paint on FIFA is as valid a reason to like a game as my reasons are for enjoying PES/WE. Just don't give me this trash that the gameplay is very similar and that the games compliment each other unless you list items, as I did about FIFA, that indicate what specific elements in PES/WE are bad (from a purely soccer sim perspective)!"
With all due respect mate, you are still only giving your own opinion.
Also, when the hell did i or any other Fifafan have to explain why they prefer 1 video game to another, to you or anybody else ?... Who do you think you are ? ...
Ever heard of personal preferences?...
I don,t need to explain on messageboards, why i prefer ..
GTA - True crime / Getaway
GT4 - Need for Speed2/ Racedriver3
MGS - Splinter Cell .. etc,etc...
If you,ve bought & enjoyed playing a game anually, you will always tend to stick with it. FACT..
Back to topic ... Well if you had actualy read most of my posts (like you reckon that you have)
Then you would know that i,ve been playing PES4 for months, via friends who own it on Xbox, and my demo. Which has been on my Pc since last November.
The reason that i rented it out, was so i could play the full version & ML on my own. To get a proper feel of the game.
Instead of 5 min demo or 1v1 matches, against my mates, with a few beers.
Obviously i didn,t get a full ML season etc from those couple of days, due to other commitments.
But i would say that i,ve spent a considerable amount of time playing it, over the last 5 months, on all formats.
I,ll also give it credit for the amount of knowledge, depth & work put into the game. I can also see (and appreciate) why alot of people prefer it to Fifa, because the game does become pretty addictive, to be fair.
Shame it doesn,t have the same level of graphical detail or, as Authentic as Fifa.
Now i,ll be honest with you and agree that Fifa05,s flaws, do out number it,s improvements.
Why the hell EA decided to play so zonal in midfield & defence, god only knows. Fifa04 isn,t like that, neither is UCL.
UCL has the gameplay that Fifa05 should of had...
All i can honestly say is certain areas of the gameplay must of obviously been rushed, to meet the deadlines. Explaining why some features were inaccurately implied or even, missed out.
Back to Tactical options ... Well i pretty much answered this, earlier in this thread.
If you actualy had the knowledge of both games, as well as football, that you claim to have. Then you would have realised that the majority of my listed replies were pretty accurate, for the way in which Fifa/Ucl plays ...
What was your reply ... " Well i couldn,t really give a crap what you think ...." Theres no trace of arrogance there, is there, mate ..
Tbh, if you were to speak to me like that, to my face ... I would knock you
out.. (Internet hardass) Theres no excuse for ignorance.
PES & FIFA have 2 diferent styles of play .. Pes relies more on Programmed AI movement.
Where Fifa does have AI movement, but relies more on the movement & space, that you create yourself... (ie, triggered runs)
Just because Fifa doesn,t play & have exactly the same tactical options as PES, Doesn,t make it any less of a football game.
Which is basically what you,re trying to say...
Although i do think that some of the old tactical options, should be put back into the game... (which should have never been taken out, in the first place)
Ps, let,s face it .. If Fifa,s gameplay & options were as good, if not better than PES,s ...
Why would anyboby, want to buy PES/WE ? When you could have it all ...
So EA have done Konami a favour really, over the last 5 years ...