FM05 Condition Merry-go-round

[Tom]

Ill set the scene, im the Liverpool manager after starting a new game, its the 6th of November and im doing OK in the league.

Now, im sure it isnt just me, but the condition of my players is REALLY starting to annoy me, It is mainly the defence:

As i dont have the greatest of squad depth, i use a 3-5-2, my usual defenders:

DC Traore
DC Hyppia
DC Carragher

However, these are never on more than 35% because they have to work so hard due to man marking, also, SI have indefinatly made it harder for your players to get 100% condition from CM0304->FM05

So my subs are Warnock, Pellegrino, Biscan and Josemi, however, Warnock is injured.

So i come to a match away to Portsmouth, we havent played in 7 days, yet when i check my fitness i see Traore is on 82% So i figure ill put in either Biscan or Pellegrino, both are on 89%

So regretably i had to play Pellegrino as Finnan is ****e, after half a game he was on 59% On came Josemi out of position and somehow managed to play an 8


but this is just the example, the real problem here is the fitness, i know SI have made it harder for your players to gain full fitness, but this is getting beyond a joke.

TROD.

 

[rpvankasteren]

not-so-very-merry-go-round

It seems you need to focus on physical/fitness training in the pre-season now; unlike in earlier versions, where you could just skip that.

 

[John_Arne_Riise]

This is probably unrelated, but it might be related. Who knows. But anyway, i started a new game with Ajax in CM01/02 many year ago and i always had the problem you stated where players were never at 100% fitness before a match. Even when we hadnt played in 7 days, they were always down near the high 80's, low 90's.

But i decided to scrap that game and start a new one. And well, the problem had disappeared. Maybe just starting a new game?

 

[PSVFOREVER]

Didnt really have any troubles with PSV in the whole season, the end i didnt get any players below 90% on matchday

 

[Tom]

cody post your training schedule

TROD.

 

[TottiNZidaneR#1]

Yea the fitness in FM 05 gets really anoyying most of my attacking players are at 70% or below at half-time in most of my matches but i dont have the problem your talking about. Most of my players are 95-100% before the match though. Its just that in the match they get very tired very quickly which sucks.

 

[Tom]

i have a match right now, all of my players are on under 80%

TROD.

 

[TOON ARMY]

I know it may seem daft but has your tactic got tempo on the quickest setting? Are you training on match days?

 

[Tom]

well there is obviously many things:

1. Its at about 75% fastest, so quick, but not tooo quick

2. No i dont, and i rest my players after the match

TROD.

 

[PSVFOREVER]

here they are, they are basically the same as Dave's CM03/04 schedules. So credit goes to him

 

[TOON ARMY]

Originally posted by TROD
well there is obviously many things:

1. Its at about 75% fastest, so quick, but not tooo quick

2. No i dont, and i rest my players after the match

TROD.

75% constantly throughout a game can tire your players out quite a lot but probably not to the extent you're finding. I tend to swap tempo around at different times in the game to save my players legs

 

[Tom]

must be something else..

TROD.

 

[NIDOKING]

I always starts a match with +95% condition and players ends always between 65~75% condition before the match.

I use a 4-4-2 DA, the 4 defender and my DMC are almost always below 70%, and my mids and fws are almost always above 70%, that's the only strange thing I noticed, because with my tactic I attack more than I defend, but well... maybe marking is too difficult

My training schedule is almost the same that Cleon guy posted on SIForum, I only did some modifications, but it's as hard, or even harder, at it. I of course use Rest after day match.

I didn't see this problem in any of my games, the only noticeable change it's when a player get a knock, instead of dropping his condition to late 50's or early 60's, like in CM0304, they almost always drop to 25~30% (assuming this happens on FH when your players are almost always above 82%)

Maybe it's starting a new game like Riise said ._.

 

[Tom]

nah it isnt that at all. It could be a problem because i have yet another experimental build from SI, though i hope not

TROD.

 

[Tom]

an average match for me:

TROD.

 

[Zlatan]

At the start or at the end of the game?

Cause it's quite good if it's at the end of the game 5 players ended up with a 90% condition or higher

 

[Tom]

at the start, lmao

TROD.

 

[X-Ter]

I didnt even realise that i still make my players train teh next day after the match and still I havnt got this problem. I am right now one day before my next match and apart from injured players, the least condition is Giggs with 91%. I agree with others, maybe you should start a new game.

 

[PSVFOREVER]

I dont rest them either, and Im not having problems too

 

[Tom]

what would starting a new game do? i only started it about 2 weeks ago

TROD.