IGN sums it up nicely when it comes to WE vs FIFA

[deftonesmx17]

Originally posted by Mel Brennan
Acutally, almost ALL the big gaming mags and review sites that I know of say that the scores for individual aspects of the game NEVER add up to the total review score, if you actually read those sources. It allows for that je ne sais quoi that comprises the best games, but may not necessarily be quantifiable.

Indeed, I can't think of one largely recognized review source that DOES just add up the numbers. So, actually, it's pretty poor research, and a concomitantly pretty poor point.

But let's not let that stop us!

You also didnt see the real point of what I wrote either. It was not poor research. I know that alot of sites and mags don't just add up numbers. If you really knew anything like you act, then you would be able to see that their is no point in just observing the overall score. Since the overall score really is just a number pulled out of their a$$, the real rating is the broken down numbers. My point was not a poor point. If we all just went with the overall score that is just some number with no real meaning, then we would buy games and regret it. It is only a poor point to you because once broken down...........gameplay: FIFA 9.0 and PES4/WE8I 9.5. No big difference. This is also comming from the person that stated in another thread that EA lowered the price of Madden 05 to $20 to compete with ESPN NFL 2K5. All the 2005 EAsports titles on PC are $20. The console games which were the only competetion are still $30 to this day.

 

[Shaft085]

Originally posted by Mel Brennan
Acutally, almost ALL the big gaming mags and review sites that I know of say that the scores for individual aspects of the game NEVER add up to the total review score, if you actually read those sources. It allows for a factoring in of that je ne sais quoi that comprises the best games, but may not necessarily be quantifiable.

Indeed, I can't think of one largely recognized review source that DOES just add up the numbers. So, actually, it's pretty poor research, and a concomitantly pretty poor point.

But let's not let that stop us!

Yeah fair enough Mel.
Besides, i,ve got better things to do...
Like watching the England Vs Holland, friendly on tv... ( Real Football )
I wonder how many Wobbley runs, Fancy tricks, 360 spins and midfielders charging every ball down,
that i,ll see in the next 90 minutes ? ...

 

[Mel Brennan]

Originally posted by deftonesmx17
...Since the overall score really is just a number pulled out of their a$$, the real rating is the broken down numbers. My point was not a poor point...

Uh, no it is. As a guy who rated games for THE MET in Dallas when I worked in the industry (albeit stand-up arcade games), the reason authentic rating systems do not just do sum of the components of a game is that the best, and worst, games are more (or less) than the sum of their parts. It builds in a flexibility that allows reviews to make sense and remain relevant to typical gaming experiences. Your point is fairly ignorant, but not as ignorant as the following excerpt of your genius:

...This is also comming from the person that stated in another thread that EA lowered the price of Madden 05 to $20 to compete with ESPN NFL 2K5. All the 2005 EAsports titles on PC are $20. The console games which were the only competetion are still $30 to this day.

Like i just posted in that selfsame thread, learn to read, then re-read the section where you think I said that. I'll not await your correction, because it doesn't matter; what matters is that you likely bring the same level of critical analysis to both your thoughts on PES/FIFA, as well as your alleged research, as you did to reading my analysis of EA's monopolistic efforts along gridiron lines re: Madden and the NFL2K series. So any correction here of your galactically arrogant post (how funny is it that you've tried to come off, in two different threads now, about something which you've read incorrectly? It just cracks me up...pathetic) would be less than rigorous; I'd look forward to a wholesale re-assessment of all your recent work, but instead of all that effort it'll just be easier to have your eager ignorance and arrognace laid bare for all to see, such that you might be ignored going forward.

ROFLMMFAOAYPASABAGASM!

 

[deftonesmx17]

Originally posted by Mel Brennan
Uh, no it is. As a guy who rated games for THE MET in Dallas when I worked in the industry (albeit stand-up arcade games), the reason authentic rating systems do not just do sum of the components of a game is that the best, and worst, games are more (or less) than the sum of their parts. It builds in a flexibility that allows reviews to make sense and remain relevant to typical gaming experiences. Your point is fairly ignorant, but not as ignorant as the following excerpt of your genius:



Like i just posted in that selfsame thread, learn to read, then re-read the section where you think I said that. I'll not await your correction, because it doesn't matter; what matters is that you likely bring the same level of critical analysis to both your thoughts on PES/FIFA, as well as your alleged research, as you did to reading my analysis of EA's monopolistic efforts along gridiron lines re: Madden and the NFL2K series. So any correction here of your galactically arrogant post (how funny is it that you've tried to come off, in two different threads now, about something which you've read incorrectly? It just cracks me up...pathetic) would be less than rigorous; I'd look forward to a wholesale re-assessment of all your recent work, but instead of all that effort it'll just be easier to have your eager ignorance and arrognace laid bare for all to see, such that you might be ignored going forward.

ROFLMMFAOAYPASABAGASM!

It is funny that you call me the ignorant and arrogant one. You come off as arrogant and for a 33 year old very immature. You are the normal PES fan that wants to call name. 33 with the ego of a 16 year old. So, be my guest and keep calling me names and also shut up because you and every other PES fan is just pissed because FIFA got a 9.0 in the gameplay department. You are the kind of person that instead of continuing the argument, you just put people down. Pathetic and ignorant. Hmmmm two words that you use alot that are seemingly describing you more and more with every post you make.

 

[Mel Brennan]

Originally posted by deftonesmx17
It is funny that you call me the ignorant and arrogant one. You come off as arrogant and for a 33 year old very immature. You are the normal PES fan that wants to call name. 33 with the ego of a 16 year old. So, be my guest and keep calling me names and also shut up because you and every other PES fan is just pissed because FIFA got a 9.0 in the gameplay department. You are the kind of person that instead of continuing the argument, you just put people down. Pathetic and immature. Hmmmm two words that you use alot that are seemingly describing you more and more with every post you make.

Dude, you keep it up, but the proof is in the pudding, and in your posts. You're wrong. The way that you fail to self-correct and critically review your posts, and in particular your failure to correct clear mistakes (as in the other thread), means that being wrong is state of being that you ought to get used to.

Like I said, pathetic. Attacking the messenger and the message was your M.O., but, as all can see, you can't even read the message right! And then you can't admit when you are incorrect!

Grow up indeed!

 

[deftonesmx17]

Originally posted by Mel Brennan
Dude, you keep it up, but the proof is in the pudding, and in your posts. You're wrong. The way that you fail to self-correct and critically review your posts, and in particular your failure to correct clear mistakes (as in the other thread), means that being wrong is state of being that you ought to get used to.

Like I said, pathetic. Attacking the messenger and the message was your M.O., but, as all can see, you can't even read the message right! And then you can't admit when you are incorrect!

Grow up indeed!

Yes you should grow up and stop calling names. Does that fill your ego? It seems to. You have done it in about 5 post now. All directed at me. Pathetic is a 33 year old that has to call other people on a forum pathetic.

 

[Mel Brennan]

Originally posted by deftonesmx17
Yes you should grow up and stop calling names. Does that fill your ego? It seems to. You have done it in about 5 post now. All directed at me. Pathetic is a 33 year old that has to call other people on a forum pathetic.

Again learn to read; your behaviour, as described here, is what is pathetic; I don't know you...Of course, in the course of this discourse I've learned much more than I ever wanted to know about you, in terms of your character, and there's a point or two about that character in my last post to you in that other thread which you might want to consider.

 

[deftonesmx17]

Originally posted by Mel Brennan
Again learn to read; your behaviour, as described here, is what is pathetic; I don't know you...Of course, in the course of this discourse I've learned much more than I ever wanted to know about you, in terms of your character, and there's a point or two about that character in my last post to you in that other thread which you might want to consider.

Every post back to me just proves what I said.
We have also learned much about your ego filled, arrogant character. You might want to change a couple points. You need to stop acting "higher than thou". Do you think you are higher than your wife/kids or boss for that matter? You seem to come off that way.
You never directly said I was pathetic or ignorant. You just have a way of talking down to people. Im sure your wife loves that.

 

[Shaft085]

It,s a shame that the England match, wasn,t as entertaining as this debate between you too...

But seriously guys, don,t you think this is getting a bit too personal now?...
I mean, for F**k sake we are talking about a couple of video games here.
I love a good debate myself ( that,s obviously why i,m here )
But it,s just Ridiculous how deep you two are getting now,
just to try and prove which game is better than the other ...

 

[Ny8La8]

Mel Brennan =

 

[Shaft085]

Originally posted by Ny8La8
Mel Brennan =

Mel must be some sort of, Demi God to all PES fans ...
I will admit that he,s the only one that talks any sense out of them ... :funny:

 

[Ny8La8]

^^^ It's just that, Mel does all the talking any of "us" need to do, and does it quite well.