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Liverpool FC
- Thread starter Haukur Gudnason
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We've had a few chances, we could have done so much more, but without Xabi and Stevie, we were gonna struggle, and we did. Lucas was shocking, certainly not the same player I've watched in the Brazilian League.
That's the title challenge delayed by yet another season... The thing is, while our opponents will reinforce themselves in the transfer window, we're still not sure who our manager will be, or who our owners will be, and if money will be made available.
That's the title challenge delayed by yet another season... The thing is, while our opponents will reinforce themselves in the transfer window, we're still not sure who our manager will be, or who our owners will be, and if money will be made available.
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Kibe Kru;2629740 said:
and if benitez stays as manager continue to sign ****** players or good palyers that'll flop.
Liverpool need a new defence. and they truely lack good payers at the LM and RM position. Riera is decent but nt good enough Kuyt in that position doesnt work. Defence and wingers and a good manager is what liverpool lack atm.
They need a new manager plain and simple benitez keeps saying this is going to be our year but we all know that ain't happening as long as he is manager and you have stupid owners. right now liverpool don't got what it takes to win the league. They have shown that when put under pressure not even much they break and collapse. If yo are going to win the league you gotta play well under pressure.
I'm sick of these managers these days buying players mainly from their own country (as first choice) Wenger keeps looking for french players first Henry Gallas Flamini viera nasri etc etc. Benitez spanish Torress Xabi alonso. riera etc. Scolari in his short term Deco and Quaresma (even though eh Brazilian still was portugal manager) etc.
I think there proposed idea to have a cap on minimum English players in club and i think also said starting lineup not sure. Should be pushed through. They aren't that many english players playing in their own country atm.
This is a good reason why England national team is struggling and ain't doing well. Becuase most of the leagues starting lineup is foreign like friggin 80-85% How are they gong to develop talent and a proper team if they aren't producing talent from their own country and keep bringing young talent from foreign countries into england and making them become amazing and then those foreigners became superstars for their nations while england isn't really producing any superstars atm. Instead of keep buying foreign talented youngsters and making them stars they need to start producing homegrown stars so the national team can became good. Cause all england is dong is producing superstars fr other countries instead of their own.
Anyway Liverpool have the ability to win the league and trophies just not the right manager to do so. Benitez is good but not good enough for EPL. Sure he won a CL here but we all know liverpool were really lucky to win it. Other than that he hasn't done really anything. Surprised he is lasting this long after year after year of promising and saying "this is our year" but failing every time.
Liverpool need a new manager (and definetely new owners) and revamp of at least 1/4 to 1/2 of their starting line up. They need Total revamp at back though the d are decent but not good enough and a GOOD LM and RM like David Silva. Babel has the potential to be great but Liverpool don't have the ability right now to develop Babel and other youngsters into superstars ATM. Hence why all their youngsters are struggling.
But im glad it's Liverpool giving Man U a challenge for title instead of chelski.
Liverpool are ALMOST their but not quite their yet. im sure with a new manger and Singing 2 good RM/LM like Silva Liverpool can Really challenge for title
If he knew good players that will flop, he wouldn't sign them, would he? Benitez is such a crap manager, he doesn't even have a working crystal ball.thelordspawn;2630268 said:
Agree with the wingers bit, it's been a problem for a while. Pennant didn't quite work as expected, same with Kewell. Defense is good enough. Carra, Agger, Skrtel. If Agger leaves, then we need another defender, as Hyypia is too slow.thelordspawn;2630268 said:
I don't know ANY manager who would take Liverpool forward from where they currently are. Should we get Scolari? Eriksson? McClaren?thelordspawn;2630268 said:
They know those players better, it's quite natural. If I only follow the English League and got hired to the Pakistani league, I'd look for English players to take there.thelordspawn;2630268 said:
Blaming foreign managers is not the answer. If England isn't producing the next Michael Owen, or the next Wayne Rooney, managers will try to find them elsewhere. I'm pretty sure that if Liverpool had a good winger coming up through the ranks, he'd play instead of Riera/Kuyt. Just face it, if you have a good English player and he's against a very good Qatari player, I know who I'd go for. Especially as Liverpool have their own interests above England's.thelordspawn;2630268 said:
I suppose we were really lucky to get to the final again in 2007? Man, were Liverpool really that lucky, they wouldn't be without a league title since 1990.thelordspawn;2630268 said:
If Liverpool buy Silva, and he doesn't adapt to the English game, is it still Benitez's fault? And by buying Silva, wouldn't they be denying a place in the side to an English player?thelordspawn;2630268 said:
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Mus;2630490 said:
no im simply stating what liverpool need to do. Stop acting like a smartass
thelordspawn
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"Blaming foreign managers is not the answer. If England isn't producing the next Michael Owen, or the next Wayne Rooney, managers will try to find them elsewhere. I'm pretty sure that if Liverpool had a good winger coming up through the ranks, he'd play instead of Riera/Kuyt. Just face it, if you have a good English player and he's against a very good Qatari player, I know who I'd go for. Especially as Liverpool have their own interests above England's." still a club like Wenger and Arsenal instead of taking youngsters from foreign countries and developing them arsenal can find homegrown youngsters like Walcott to develop and make superstars.
I think they should make a Rule where the majority of under 20 players they sign have to be English. or something like that so it'll force clubs to produce more homegrown talent. As it is going managers are bringign foreign youngers and developing them instead of its ow countries. How can you expect england in the future to prosper and be successful if all the youngsters are coming from foreign countries. When Beckham Gerrard Lampard Terry. etc retire from international footbal who are they going to have to replace them? talented players who are on team that can make them reach their full potential. The TOP clubs need to be the ones who Develop the english superstars of the future. Sure they are lots of talented english players but most of them are not on a top 4/5 club. and arent improving and becoming better as fast or at all than they would be at a top 4 club.
Im not saying stop it completly but for the sake of the country force clubs to produce homegrown talent.
"If Liverpool buy Silva, and he doesn't adapt to the English game, is it still Benitez's fault? And by buying Silva, wouldn't they be denying a place in the side to an English player?" thats part of being a manager at a top club you gotta be able to see and know somewhat if a player c an/will adapt. or not. so far Benitez aint doing a good job.
"I suppose we were really lucky to get to the final again in 2007? Man, were Liverpool really that lucky, they wouldn't be without a league title since 1990." i said lucky they won it didn't say they were lucky to make it to final.
doesn't mean they are as good as they could be if say Arsenal Had them on their team and produced them. the other clubs other tan top 4 defintly got talented english youngsters just not the right coaches and club to make them become superstars
"If he knew good players that will flop, he wouldn't sign them, would he? Benitez is such a crap manager, he doesn't even have a working crystal ball" point is majority of players benitez has signed have been flops. Shows Benitez isnt good at signing the right players which is pretty much the biggest part of winning titles and retaining titles.
"They know those players better, it's quite natural. If I only follow the English League and got hired to the Pakistani league, I'd look for English players to take there." im not saying don't doing foreign players at all. but at least try to look for english players first then if you think there isnt a good enough player to sign then look foreign and don't just look from players from your own country.
I think they should make a Rule where the majority of under 20 players they sign have to be English. or something like that so it'll force clubs to produce more homegrown talent. As it is going managers are bringign foreign youngers and developing them instead of its ow countries. How can you expect england in the future to prosper and be successful if all the youngsters are coming from foreign countries. When Beckham Gerrard Lampard Terry. etc retire from international footbal who are they going to have to replace them? talented players who are on team that can make them reach their full potential. The TOP clubs need to be the ones who Develop the english superstars of the future. Sure they are lots of talented english players but most of them are not on a top 4/5 club. and arent improving and becoming better as fast or at all than they would be at a top 4 club.
Im not saying stop it completly but for the sake of the country force clubs to produce homegrown talent.
"If Liverpool buy Silva, and he doesn't adapt to the English game, is it still Benitez's fault? And by buying Silva, wouldn't they be denying a place in the side to an English player?" thats part of being a manager at a top club you gotta be able to see and know somewhat if a player c an/will adapt. or not. so far Benitez aint doing a good job.
"I suppose we were really lucky to get to the final again in 2007? Man, were Liverpool really that lucky, they wouldn't be without a league title since 1990." i said lucky they won it didn't say they were lucky to make it to final.
cmc211;2630270 said:
doesn't mean they are as good as they could be if say Arsenal Had them on their team and produced them. the other clubs other tan top 4 defintly got talented english youngsters just not the right coaches and club to make them become superstars
"If he knew good players that will flop, he wouldn't sign them, would he? Benitez is such a crap manager, he doesn't even have a working crystal ball" point is majority of players benitez has signed have been flops. Shows Benitez isnt good at signing the right players which is pretty much the biggest part of winning titles and retaining titles.
"They know those players better, it's quite natural. If I only follow the English League and got hired to the Pakistani league, I'd look for English players to take there." im not saying don't doing foreign players at all. but at least try to look for english players first then if you think there isnt a good enough player to sign then look foreign and don't just look from players from your own country.
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Nady;2630527 said:
i'm stating what i think they need to do based on facts.
That's because Walcott is better than what Arsene could find elsewhere. If he was given a choice between Walcott and Messi, who would he sign? Who would YOU sign? Arsenal is also not a good example, given you've criticized Wenger for going after his own countrymen in an earlier post. And "a club like Wenger"... well, I've never heard of them.thelordspawn;2630519 said:
That's the FA's duty. I agree clubs at any country should provide good players to that country. However, with managers being fired left and right after a string of bad results, you can't blame them for thinking of their clubs before they think of the national side.thelordspawn;2630519 said:
Easy to say that when you support Man Utd and Man City... You've got loads of money to spend on whoever you want (and bitch about not signing Kaka...). Liverpool can't spend money at will, and if a decent player is available at an affordable price, we'll sign him, despite the risk he may not settle well. Which is what happened to Keane. It was a risk worth taking.thelordspawn;2630519 said:
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"That's because Walcott is better than what Arsene could find elsewhere. If he was given a choice between Walcott and Messi, who would he sign? Who would YOU sign? Arsenal is also not a good example, given you've criticized Wenger for going after his own countrymen in an earlier post. And "a club like Wenger"... well, I've never heard of them."
who knew Messi could be where he is now when he was 16-18 you don't im talking about 16-18 year olds not 21 year olds now. messi 21 now and walcott 19 so when messi was 18 and walcott was 16 how would u then be able to tell which would be better in the future at that time. Obviously now messi is alot better
Im saying that most YOUNGSTERS (15-18 year olds) should come from england not neccesrily all i'm saying MAJORITY.
Also managers who don't care about the nation of which the club they re managning is from is another reason why England's future isn't going to be good if it continues like this.
"easy to say that when you support Man Utd and Man City... You've got loads of money to spend on whoever you want (and bitch about not signing Kaka...). Liverpool can't spend money at will, and if a decent player is available at an affordable price, we'll sign him, despite the risk he may not settle well. Which is what happened to Keane. It was a risk worth taking."
As i said Liverpool need new owners. If owners aren't willing to spend the money neccesary to win titles why did they buy the club in the first place? Makes no sense. Also Man U make the 2nd most money in the world (2nd to real madrid apparently) because they are best in world. And they are the best because their manger signs the right players and Develops a bunch of youngsters at same time and have the Depth. Most of Man us Squad cost around 15m each. which is average Roooney Berbatov. and i think ferdinand cost 30. But Man U dont sign players even close to as often as most other epl clubs do.
who knew Messi could be where he is now when he was 16-18 you don't im talking about 16-18 year olds not 21 year olds now. messi 21 now and walcott 19 so when messi was 18 and walcott was 16 how would u then be able to tell which would be better in the future at that time. Obviously now messi is alot better
Im saying that most YOUNGSTERS (15-18 year olds) should come from england not neccesrily all i'm saying MAJORITY.
Also managers who don't care about the nation of which the club they re managning is from is another reason why England's future isn't going to be good if it continues like this.
"easy to say that when you support Man Utd and Man City... You've got loads of money to spend on whoever you want (and bitch about not signing Kaka...). Liverpool can't spend money at will, and if a decent player is available at an affordable price, we'll sign him, despite the risk he may not settle well. Which is what happened to Keane. It was a risk worth taking."
As i said Liverpool need new owners. If owners aren't willing to spend the money neccesary to win titles why did they buy the club in the first place? Makes no sense. Also Man U make the 2nd most money in the world (2nd to real madrid apparently) because they are best in world. And they are the best because their manger signs the right players and Develops a bunch of youngsters at same time and have the Depth. Most of Man us Squad cost around 15m each. which is average Roooney Berbatov. and i think ferdinand cost 30. But Man U dont sign players even close to as often as most other epl clubs do.
You didn't understand my point, and apparently won't, so I'll stop trying.thelordspawn;2630558 said:
People buy football clubs to make money, not to win titles. If winning titles help them making money, then they'll try. Either that or money laundering. In Liverpool's case, I think the Yanks were after the stadium, which would generate a lot of money, then with the money they'd reinvest in players.thelordspawn;2630558 said:
That just sounds wrong, don't you think. If making more money means they're best in the world, wouldn't Madrid be the best in the world?thelordspawn;2630558 said:
And he's been there for 200 years to do that. FFS, of course Ferguson is great, but were you to judge him on his first four years, you'd be asking for his head, as you're doing with Hughes. He was appointed in 1986, and he "only" won his first league title in 1992-93.thelordspawn;2630558 said:
I don't know why I'm still trying...
