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Nady;2851888 said:
We need 4 quality strikers who can all stay healthy and are all capable of scoring. One backup is not enough.
Here's what happens when you have only 3 strikers: one of them gets hurt (Owen) and one of them sucks and can't score goals (Berbs). Then you only have one striker who can score (Rooney) and then when he doesn't play you can't score enough goals to win games (Chelsea game, Blackburn game)
As for replacing Scholes...Gourcuff is the obvious answer.
ladylover;2852096 said:
I am well aware of Macheda, Welbeck and Diouf, but they are all too young and inexperienced to be trusted as regular players in the senior team. I still consider them for the future, not the present.
I said we need 4 strikers...right now I am counting Rooney and the new Mexican kid. I want Berbs gone and Owen is too much of an injury risk to be trusted so I am not figuring him into my plans at all.
We need to sell Berbs and go after Chamack, and either Villa or Benzema.
cfdemarco;2852105 said:
Its a waste of time talking about those 3 as Chamakh is not good enough for Manchester United he primarily scores headers and cant do much more than that, Villa at 40m and aged 28 is against our 'policy' and Benzema is not leaving Madrid.
There must be other quality targets available.
On the new playmaker front, I think that if Chelsea don't renew Cole's contract, Fergie would be a fool not to sign him. Injury-prone or not, he's exactly what you need, and to get him for free would be unbelievable. Hope he renews, though.
And about Berba, basically, he needs a partner in attack. Playing him alone does him no favours. He prefers to drop back and he's got better vision than most strikers, which is why he needs someone to make runs in front of him so he can give them the pass. Someone like Owen would be the perfect partner for him, really. Thing is, Rooney is given the freedom to move around and he likes to drop deep and support in midfield, get the ball and help in creation. Capello has actually dissuaded him from doing it with the NT. So when Rooney and Berba partner up front, even though Berba will do better than when he's alone, you've basically got 2 strikers dropping back to get the ball, and no one making runs and pushing the defenders back.
So, if he's to stay, he'll have to have to just change his way of playing. With Rooney being Utd.'s talisman, he and Owen aren't going to partner much, and with Rooney shining this year, Fergie won't be telling him to change his way of playing to accomodate a flop. I'm trying to understand why Fergie actually bought him for that money. He was the same player at Tottenham, partnering with Defoe, Crouch and Keane. Honestly, Tevez, Rooney and Ronaldo were his strikers and none of them were the sort Berba plays best with. I think he might've been duped by Berba's high scoring record.
Benzema, Villa, Huntelaar, those are players he could partner with, IMO. Although Villa has become a lot more mobile lately, moving around to create space for Mata, Hernandez, Silva, etc. I'd get Huntelaar, he's not been too good at Milan, but I know he has it in him. Probably won't be keen on going to a 3rd club in 2 years.
If Berba stays, don't expect to see another striker come in.
And about Berba, basically, he needs a partner in attack. Playing him alone does him no favours. He prefers to drop back and he's got better vision than most strikers, which is why he needs someone to make runs in front of him so he can give them the pass. Someone like Owen would be the perfect partner for him, really. Thing is, Rooney is given the freedom to move around and he likes to drop deep and support in midfield, get the ball and help in creation. Capello has actually dissuaded him from doing it with the NT. So when Rooney and Berba partner up front, even though Berba will do better than when he's alone, you've basically got 2 strikers dropping back to get the ball, and no one making runs and pushing the defenders back.
So, if he's to stay, he'll have to have to just change his way of playing. With Rooney being Utd.'s talisman, he and Owen aren't going to partner much, and with Rooney shining this year, Fergie won't be telling him to change his way of playing to accomodate a flop. I'm trying to understand why Fergie actually bought him for that money. He was the same player at Tottenham, partnering with Defoe, Crouch and Keane. Honestly, Tevez, Rooney and Ronaldo were his strikers and none of them were the sort Berba plays best with. I think he might've been duped by Berba's high scoring record.
Benzema, Villa, Huntelaar, those are players he could partner with, IMO. Although Villa has become a lot more mobile lately, moving around to create space for Mata, Hernandez, Silva, etc. I'd get Huntelaar, he's not been too good at Milan, but I know he has it in him. Probably won't be keen on going to a 3rd club in 2 years.
If Berba stays, don't expect to see another striker come in.
Mandieta6;2852152 said:
I wouldnt mind seeing Cole at United. I dont think he would to United probably Man City or something. But I would like to see Anderson get more chance.
Mandieta6;2852152 said:
+1. Vision is one of his strengths along with passing and first touch. He rarely get that first touch in the box. He is more of a playmaker than a goal scorer.
Mandieta6;2852152 said:
Whether he stays or not United might need to buy someone who can play upfront with or without a partner especially when Rooney get injured (Owen is always injured). He doesnt have to be world class just someone who can play similar to Saha. Though I think if Berbatov does leave its probably safer to go for a world class striker.
As for youngsters over the last few years we seem to send them on loan then sell them. But I hope these guys prove me wrong.
Chelsea got the calls in some of the most important games this season and hardly any unjust ones against them. Whatever United were getting in previous seasons doesn't matter, because fact remains a fact that Chelsea will undeservedly win the Premier League thanks to some terrible refereeing blunders. When its time for next season I will forget about it, but right now Chelsea got almost title-changing calls in ALL of the last 3 games and that's a shame because United hardly deserves a title this year and at least I was hoping that Chelsea would take it fairly.
Jesus... both of you, leave the no holds barred arguing to the barca fans. Mistakes happen, its part of the game. One day things go your way, another day they don't. There's no great conspiracy to make Chelsea win it this season or vice versa seasons past. Nor is it a less deserving victory, you take what's given to you.
That aside. I'm still hoping Chelsea slip up, although its looking more and more unlikely. At least Rooneys back for City that would add insult to injury if we lose to them.
That aside. I'm still hoping Chelsea slip up, although its looking more and more unlikely. At least Rooneys back for City that would add insult to injury if we lose to them.
Well, we need more than one miracle to win the league title but we can't win it every year.
I don't want to take anything away from Chelsea but series of incidents including important injuries, bad calls (I never saw this much before) and bad luck took both EPL and UCL away from us. But these things are part of the game and can happen to any team, so poor us.
I'm just wondering what would happen if Rooney was fit for those three matches.
I hope our player defend our precious club well during next couple of games and especially against bitters (they are on their best form, aren't they).
No matter what happens, we are always United.
I don't want to take anything away from Chelsea but series of incidents including important injuries, bad calls (I never saw this much before) and bad luck took both EPL and UCL away from us. But these things are part of the game and can happen to any team, so poor us.
I'm just wondering what would happen if Rooney was fit for those three matches.
I hope our player defend our precious club well during next couple of games and especially against bitters (they are on their best form, aren't they).
No matter what happens, we are always United.
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