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Manchester United Thread [2005/2006]
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what fergie said was crap. now he blamed the pitch and said we deserved to win. i think someone should sit beside him and tell him what goes wrong in the game. he clearly not understand what is the problem.
let see what happen on sunday. even though chelsea suffered a lose at spain but if we play like this, chelsea gonna totally outclass and trash us like a second devision team. god bless man utd
let see what happen on sunday. even though chelsea suffered a lose at spain but if we play like this, chelsea gonna totally outclass and trash us like a second devision team. god bless man utd
This week I have seen the most worst ever performance by United over the years.
Even Ruud Gullit was disgusted and had no clue whta happened to united after the match.
It was Nobody but Ruud who himself alone kept dropping back in mid to win the long balls.He got bullied like a Rag Doll.
Fletcher And Smith dont have the balls to be a manchester United player.
As an exception I would keep sympathy for Smith cause he has been playing in an alien role which he'll never be successful in.
But he himself is also to blame since he is so desperate to PLAY and hence would even play as the waterboy.Another player would have negated versus the role if he would not find it proper.
Rooney was nowhere to be seen .he never got any passes towards him.
And how much do i hate f*ckin Lille(not because they beat us) but with the way they play.
No doubt the goal was class. But the Physical game they played was dangerous.I have never seen Ruud being fouled so many times by any player.That f*ckin c*nt Tavlaridis should be shot. The way they were playing reminds me of a rookie game we played in my college days some years back when we thought that sticking a foot close to the person ur supposed to mark is actually good defending.They were pushing and shoving all the time . their defending seemed an act of Gayism.
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Fergie wa wrong in the post match interview to defend his players by blaming the pitch.the man utd of 99 would have even found a way through if there were always 10 men behind the ball.
We lack Depth across the wingplay.
Gary and Heinze are being missed immensely.
But Rio still sucked yesterday. Fletcher should be sold to sunderland.
Can't wait for Keano to come on. Even if he had an average game himself,he atleast motivated others to perform with his leadership.
we need to buy BIG this january.Ballack would be the obvious choice.but after seeing united's latest performances,i dont think he would EVER come.
Face it,this season is screwed.Chelsea are gonna come and will scrw us if we play like we have been. Nothing less than a win will compensate for every united fan.All of em are disgusted.
I still have the hope that United WILL qualify for the knockout face but it wont be easy at all.
another hope :http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=267516&itype=466&icategoryid=120 the docs back
Even Ruud Gullit was disgusted and had no clue whta happened to united after the match.
It was Nobody but Ruud who himself alone kept dropping back in mid to win the long balls.He got bullied like a Rag Doll.
Fletcher And Smith dont have the balls to be a manchester United player.
As an exception I would keep sympathy for Smith cause he has been playing in an alien role which he'll never be successful in.
But he himself is also to blame since he is so desperate to PLAY and hence would even play as the waterboy.Another player would have negated versus the role if he would not find it proper.
Rooney was nowhere to be seen .he never got any passes towards him.
And how much do i hate f*ckin Lille(not because they beat us) but with the way they play.
No doubt the goal was class. But the Physical game they played was dangerous.I have never seen Ruud being fouled so many times by any player.That f*ckin c*nt Tavlaridis should be shot. The way they were playing reminds me of a rookie game we played in my college days some years back when we thought that sticking a foot close to the person ur supposed to mark is actually good defending.They were pushing and shoving all the time . their defending seemed an act of Gayism.
.
Fergie wa wrong in the post match interview to defend his players by blaming the pitch.the man utd of 99 would have even found a way through if there were always 10 men behind the ball.
We lack Depth across the wingplay.
Gary and Heinze are being missed immensely.
But Rio still sucked yesterday. Fletcher should be sold to sunderland.
Can't wait for Keano to come on. Even if he had an average game himself,he atleast motivated others to perform with his leadership.
we need to buy BIG this january.Ballack would be the obvious choice.but after seeing united's latest performances,i dont think he would EVER come.
Face it,this season is screwed.Chelsea are gonna come and will scrw us if we play like we have been. Nothing less than a win will compensate for every united fan.All of em are disgusted.
I still have the hope that United WILL qualify for the knockout face but it wont be easy at all.
another hope :http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=267516&itype=466&icategoryid=120 the docs back
Fans side with raving Keane as rudderless United lose the plot
Only three minutes had elapsed when the supporters behind Edwin van der Sar's goal began bellowing Keane's name. And when the first rendition of "Keano" had died down another followed within two minutes. It was a chant which began in the gut and slowly picked up decibel levels beneath the "Make Glazer History" banner.
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Smith, a one-time England striker, showed again why an appetite for tackling and running around a lot does not make him a midfielder.
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Soon afterwards Richardson put what should have been a simple cross behind for a goalkick and almost immediately the chant of "Keano" broke out again. After the final whistle, the United players made their way over to the travelling fans - only to be met by a sea of V-signs.
http://football.guardian.co.uk/championsleague200506/story/0,16379,1607405,00.html
Only three minutes had elapsed when the supporters behind Edwin van der Sar's goal began bellowing Keane's name. And when the first rendition of "Keano" had died down another followed within two minutes. It was a chant which began in the gut and slowly picked up decibel levels beneath the "Make Glazer History" banner.
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Smith, a one-time England striker, showed again why an appetite for tackling and running around a lot does not make him a midfielder.
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Soon afterwards Richardson put what should have been a simple cross behind for a goalkick and almost immediately the chant of "Keano" broke out again. After the final whistle, the United players made their way over to the travelling fans - only to be met by a sea of V-signs.
http://football.guardian.co.uk/championsleague200506/story/0,16379,1607405,00.html
god bless usIt sure is a dissapointing result and periode for the team and for us, but worrying to much about won't help either, we should just move on and before you know it we will be back in winning ways....but atleast the team should show a sign that they are trying to do something to get a result, the game against Lille they didn't work hard to get what they wanted, on the other that's understandeble, it is a away match, SAF should get good back-up players, that would be a start or give more of the youngsters a chance...putting faith, believing and supporting them can make them stronger and even more prepared for the first team.
On the other hand it seems as if the team was saving themselves for the Chelsea game....I hope I'm right..
On the other hand it seems as if the team was saving themselves for the Chelsea game....I hope I'm right..
Paulo Da Silva
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if you guys manage to beat Chelsea, it will be the of turning point of your season. Chelsea will lose a lot of confidence which would affect their play and Man U would defintaly gain their momentum
GoldenSpike
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Paulo Da Silva said:
We seem to do this every f*cking year and still then go on to be as cr*p as we ever were. Just look at beating Arsenal last season 'the turning point' and then we lost to Pompey the week after, we have no consistency anymore and we look like the team that Fergie took over all those years ago. Managers were able to evade the sack by 'winning a trophy' and we only turned up to big games and languished in mid table mediocrity.
Something needs to change to stop us going back to these days and it may have to be a change in manager.
VAN NISTELROOY TO LEAD UNITED REVIVAL
Ruud van Nistelrooy has vowed to hoist Manchester United from their current slump back to the pinnacle of the English game, but warned it is going to take some considerable time.
In the week he wore the captain’s armband for the first time, Van Nistelrooy took it upon himself to deliver, in his own calm manner, a withering verdict on a club heading alarmingly in the wrong direction.
“When I came to Manchester United four-and-a-half years ago, we were unbeatable,” he said.
“I remember games when I had four or five opportunities, constant service and we attacked. It was great and I enjoyed it.
“We all want those days to come back. The question is how do we do it?
“We need to look at the squad; look at everything. Each of us knows within themselves what is going to happen.
“Without doubt, this is the most difficult time I have had since I came to United. But I am not going anywhere.
“I am committed to this club and now, in the bad times, I just want to give it my all.
“Over the coming years, it is personal to me to get United back to where I, and everyone associated with the club, wants to see them.”
The frank assessment is an indication of the frustrations inside a dressing room seemingly immune from Sir Alex Ferguson’s promptings.
FERGUSON TRUSTS IN YOUTH
While four years of service following Van Nistelrooy's £18.5million move from PSV Eindhoven have brought him only a single Premiership title and an FA Cup, his staggering contribution of 136 goals in 188 appearances has afforded the 29-year-old a status way beyond his medal collection.
The Dutchman was alone among the United line-up which lost to Lille on Wednesday in having his name sung by the 5,000-strong travelling support who ended the night dismayed and disillusioned.
LILLE 1-0 MANCHESTER UNITED
“We are not playing well,” said Van Nistelrooy.
“We have difficulty keeping the ball. We cannot get any fluency into our passing, we don’t have a flow of attacks, don’t have crosses coming in, don’t win the second balls. As a consequence we can’t maintain any pressure.”
Van Nistelrooy refuses to fall back on the weight of a huge injury list as a reason for United’s present failings.
The absence of Roy Keane, Gary Neville, Gabriel Heinze, Ryan Giggs and Louis Saha for long periods has been damaging. But in these days of large squads, the Dutchman thinks a club of United’s stature should be able to cope.
Where they cannot compete, he acknowledges, is in the depth of quality, especially compared to Chelsea.
“When you compare our squad with Chelsea, it tells you everything you need to know,” he said.
“Look at the size of their squad. They can play team one or team two and both of them are full of internationals who will be going to the World Cup.
“We do not have that strength in depth here and nobody else does either.”
From the mess of a week which some believe has catapaulted the Old Trafford outfit to the brink of a crisis, Van Nistelrooy has stepped forward to guide United out of the darkness enveloping them.
“We are all still together,” he insisted, before turning his attention to the criticism being levelled at the club not only from the media, but some sections of supporters and opponents.
“When you get criticised, you can get angry but you can also think about it, hold it before yourself, look at it and see if it is true.
“You cannot do anything about the things which are said and written. But it is good to have people who say what they feel because they care about the club.
“It is always important we keep doing that. You have to take something good out of any criticism - and that will only help us.”
Ruud van Nistelrooy has vowed to hoist Manchester United from their current slump back to the pinnacle of the English game, but warned it is going to take some considerable time.
In the week he wore the captain’s armband for the first time, Van Nistelrooy took it upon himself to deliver, in his own calm manner, a withering verdict on a club heading alarmingly in the wrong direction.
“When I came to Manchester United four-and-a-half years ago, we were unbeatable,” he said.
“I remember games when I had four or five opportunities, constant service and we attacked. It was great and I enjoyed it.
“We all want those days to come back. The question is how do we do it?
“We need to look at the squad; look at everything. Each of us knows within themselves what is going to happen.
“Without doubt, this is the most difficult time I have had since I came to United. But I am not going anywhere.
“I am committed to this club and now, in the bad times, I just want to give it my all.
“Over the coming years, it is personal to me to get United back to where I, and everyone associated with the club, wants to see them.”
The frank assessment is an indication of the frustrations inside a dressing room seemingly immune from Sir Alex Ferguson’s promptings.
FERGUSON TRUSTS IN YOUTH
While four years of service following Van Nistelrooy's £18.5million move from PSV Eindhoven have brought him only a single Premiership title and an FA Cup, his staggering contribution of 136 goals in 188 appearances has afforded the 29-year-old a status way beyond his medal collection.
The Dutchman was alone among the United line-up which lost to Lille on Wednesday in having his name sung by the 5,000-strong travelling support who ended the night dismayed and disillusioned.
LILLE 1-0 MANCHESTER UNITED
“We are not playing well,” said Van Nistelrooy.
“We have difficulty keeping the ball. We cannot get any fluency into our passing, we don’t have a flow of attacks, don’t have crosses coming in, don’t win the second balls. As a consequence we can’t maintain any pressure.”
Van Nistelrooy refuses to fall back on the weight of a huge injury list as a reason for United’s present failings.
The absence of Roy Keane, Gary Neville, Gabriel Heinze, Ryan Giggs and Louis Saha for long periods has been damaging. But in these days of large squads, the Dutchman thinks a club of United’s stature should be able to cope.
Where they cannot compete, he acknowledges, is in the depth of quality, especially compared to Chelsea.
“When you compare our squad with Chelsea, it tells you everything you need to know,” he said.
“Look at the size of their squad. They can play team one or team two and both of them are full of internationals who will be going to the World Cup.
“We do not have that strength in depth here and nobody else does either.”
From the mess of a week which some believe has catapaulted the Old Trafford outfit to the brink of a crisis, Van Nistelrooy has stepped forward to guide United out of the darkness enveloping them.
“We are all still together,” he insisted, before turning his attention to the criticism being levelled at the club not only from the media, but some sections of supporters and opponents.
“When you get criticised, you can get angry but you can also think about it, hold it before yourself, look at it and see if it is true.
“You cannot do anything about the things which are said and written. But it is good to have people who say what they feel because they care about the club.
“It is always important we keep doing that. You have to take something good out of any criticism - and that will only help us.”
Manchester United could be planning to recall midfielder David Jones from his loan spell at Preston.
The Red Devils' poor recent form, coupled with Liam Miller's imminent loan switch to Leeds, could persuade Sir Alex Ferguson to bring Jones' Deepdale adventure to a premature end.
The 21-year-old has been in fine form during his stint with Preston, and North End boss Billy Davies is desperate to keep hold of him.
"David has been excellent. He has shown what a magnificent talent he is since joining us at the start of the season," admired Davies.
"He has settled into the dressing room extremely well and is a first class professional.
"But we haven't looked at the situation with him at the moment.
"The most important thing is he is playing games for us. Once we get nearer Christmas we will have a look at it.
"But he is certainly a player we admire greatly and a player we would love to see at Preston all season."
Jones joined Preston on a season-long loan, but a clause in the contract would enable Manchester United to summon him back mid-term, an option that is growing increasingly likely.
United's midfield has come under criticism, and Ferguson, who rates Jones highly, could decide to shake things up by bringing back the youngster, who captained the reserves to four trophies last season.
The recall would be unlikely to occur before December.
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I don't know what to make out of it. If Man. United do so, at least we have a true central midfielder. If he does well, then Fergie will be heavily criticised on why SMith plays midfield and why etc. I hope Jones doesn't become another Fletcher.
The Red Devils' poor recent form, coupled with Liam Miller's imminent loan switch to Leeds, could persuade Sir Alex Ferguson to bring Jones' Deepdale adventure to a premature end.
The 21-year-old has been in fine form during his stint with Preston, and North End boss Billy Davies is desperate to keep hold of him.
"David has been excellent. He has shown what a magnificent talent he is since joining us at the start of the season," admired Davies.
"He has settled into the dressing room extremely well and is a first class professional.
"But we haven't looked at the situation with him at the moment.
"The most important thing is he is playing games for us. Once we get nearer Christmas we will have a look at it.
"But he is certainly a player we admire greatly and a player we would love to see at Preston all season."
Jones joined Preston on a season-long loan, but a clause in the contract would enable Manchester United to summon him back mid-term, an option that is growing increasingly likely.
United's midfield has come under criticism, and Ferguson, who rates Jones highly, could decide to shake things up by bringing back the youngster, who captained the reserves to four trophies last season.
The recall would be unlikely to occur before December.
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I don't know what to make out of it. If Man. United do so, at least we have a true central midfielder. If he does well, then Fergie will be heavily criticised on why SMith plays midfield and why etc. I hope Jones doesn't become another Fletcher.
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