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[MOD] MODS by Doctor+ Productions (Fidel Gameplay)

lluukkman

Club Supporter
kaicooper;3598714 said:
Fidel

ur AI 2.3

THANK U so much man
u did alot of stuff and fixed all the bugs 98%

butter then Next Gen gameplay

hi! can I ask you something?
or maybe fidel or others can answer.

I'm using ai 2.3, hg 2.0 and db from moddingway playing carrer with world class and 10min. I playing two games but I notice that the cpu not making a foul even I'm protect the ball using L2. so what wrong with this?
any mistake from me or it's the ai 2.3?

sorry for my bad english
 

belblade

Club Supporter
so,
i've restarted and installed moddingway DB (4.0 matrix) added HG + AI 2.3 manually
everything works great but i do have a few issues and am wondering where they come from:

goalkeepers: even some really good ones (like thibau courtois) sometimes fumble the ball quite easily, miss some simple saves or just run back to his goal when he was right next to the ball

==> is this behaviour based on AI ? or on DB or HG ?

same for passes: quite offen , a lot of simple passes end up getting lost because the receiving player just runs by the pass instead of taking it (and then sometimes runs back to try and get it but then it's already too late)

==> is this behaviour based on AI ? or on DB or HG ?

thanks !

edit: i've done a full tournament now and must admit i haven't seen as many of these anymore so maybe it was just a statiscal fluke :)

also: does anybody also change the sliders ? Seems to be ok where it is now (everything at 50) but maybe someone has a better idea about these?
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
Remix;3598305 said:
Great ! When will GFX_MOD_TEST_2?

Hello, ok soon I release a new GFX MOD. Thanks for comment! Bye

Bimbao7;3598314 said:
Thats just GREAT ! I love it! Can you figure out how to unlock edit player on offline fifa 14
That would be great as well ! (sorry for my english, my english is under construcition :) )

Hello, thanks for comment.
About unlock edit player in CM, you can see many info in my CM EDITOR TOOL 1.0 post. Bye

belblade;3598529 said:
hi,
first of all, great job in doing this... I've been out of the fifa 4 pc games for a while (xbox 360...) but have gotten back to it after doing some research on the modding scene
i just want to be sure i've done everything correct because things were a little confusing after 4 years of absence :)
so i did:
1) fresh copy of fifa 14 (origin)
2) installed moddingway with all the latest updates (up to 1.26)
3) installed the latest full pack
HG 2.0 (latest Hybrid Gameplay)
GP EVO AI 2.2 (latest AI)
GP EVO DB 2.1 (latest updated db)
4) copied the latest AI (2.3) manually to overwrite the existing one
5) copied latest DB (2.2) files over game folder
6) regenerated files with FM 14
=> do I just click on regenerate all or do i have to chose / search specific files first?

did i do ok for my first time :-)

also: does this only affect gameplay in career and tournament mode or are there also differences in friendly/kickoff games?

Hello, steps are correct, but you must restore and save squads from game menù before new career starting. Read my info on the txt file.
On Career mode you can see all gameplay changes/tweaks.
Bye

kaicooper;3598714 said:
Fidel

ur AI 2.3

THANK U so much man
u did alot of stuff and fixed all the bugs 98%

butter then Next Gen gameplay

Thanks bro! Enjoy!

Haukur Gudnason;3598781 said:
I'd like to pop in here just to say thanks for a terrific job with 2.3. Finally, I can have a pretty good game going. Ta!

Hello, really happy to receive your positive feedback/congrats.
You can use HG or database also?
Enjoy!

Chopsticks;3598786 said:
Not bad but I made the same mistake, You can not have two DB's!!
Use Moddingway like myself or use Fidels database your choice.
But one only :)

Hello, this is a base rule as always:
you can use only one database mod for the game.
Anyway my db is projected and compatible with MDWM gfx files.
Thanks for helping people here in my thread! Bye

belblade;3598820 said:
hmmm... i thought you needed to have moddingway for fidels mods to work ?

Hello, yes is suggested, read all my info into the txt.
Bye

Global thanks + tips and info:
Big thanks to everyone for post and congrats.
To everyone with problem about no AI fouls:
the problem is due to the fact that you don't use my gp evo database.
I remember again:
if you really want to enjoy the game,
you must use HG+DATABASE+AI (latest combo set updated)
full manual controller settings
10 minute half time minimum
wc or legendary difficulty
real all my tips, start a new career and believe me, you can see all that is real football in the fifa game.
I've checked now that my latest FX Particles mod have a bug:
in rain mode you can not see the rain but you can use only a rain gp physics behavior (you can use this bug in the positive way - beta 1 version),
sometimes mistakes are used to discover things/tweaks.
Snow fx and others fx particles are not affected by this bug.
The fix come out soon with a 1.0 stable version of particle mod.
I reply to the second block posts tomorrow.
Bye

EDIT: Soon I will send/give many reputation's point to all those who have helped into my thread and are helping me to realize my mod.
I still do a special thanks to all beta testers, and all "feedbacker", without them I would not have been able to achieve my gp mod/updates.
 

SEPAKBOLA

Senior Squad
Fidel Gameplay;3600170 said:
Hello, ok soon I release a new GFX MOD. Thanks for comment! Bye



Hello, thanks for comment.
About unlock edit player in CM, you can see many info in my CM EDITOR TOOL 1.0 post. Bye



Hello, steps are correct, but you must restore and save squads from game menù before new career starting. Read my info on the txt file.
On Career mode you can see all gameplay changes/tweaks.
Bye



Thanks bro! Enjoy!



Hello, really happy to receive your positive feedback/congrats.
You can use HG or database also?
Enjoy!



Hello, this is a base rule as always:
you can use only one database mod for the game.
Anyway my db is projected and compatible with MDWM gfx files.
Thanks for helping people here in my thread! Bye



Hello, yes is suggested, read all my info into the txt.
Bye

Global thanks + tips and info:
Big thanks to everyone for post and congrats.
To everyone with problem about no AI fouls:
the problem is due to the fact that you don't use my gp evo database.
I remember again:
if you really want to enjoy the game,
you must use HG+DATABASE+AI (latest combo set updated)
full manual controller settings
10 minute half time minimum
wc or legendary difficulty
real all my tips, start a new career and believe me, you can see all that is real football in the fifa game.
I've checked now that my latest FX Particles mod have a bug:
in rain mode you can not see the rain but you can use only a rain gp physics behavior (you can use this bug in the positive way - beta 1 version),
sometimes mistakes are used to discover things/tweaks.
Snow fx and others fx particles are not affected by this bug.
The fix come out soon with a 1.0 stable version of particle mod.
I reply to the second block posts tomorrow.
Bye

EDIT: Soon I will send/give many reputation's point to all those who have helped into my thread and are helping me to realize my mod.
I still do a special thanks to all beta testers, and all "feedbacker", without them I would not have been able to achieve my gp mod/updates.

I am testing your current gameplay mod now. Will report feedback with video.
 

SEPAKBOLA

Senior Squad
Love it so far, Fidel. I will say though, you have to really pair this up with some sliders to really enjoy the game. I am still testing some of the values to see what could work.

The reason I say that is because the players should be tighter together - that is how fouls are created (in addition to your theory of speed/agility/aggression,etc). So if you can figure a way to get them tighter/closer together (less space) that will be key for more fouls.

Also - any chance you can modify the algorithm of loose balls for when the ball is cleared by CPU - it always goes straight to their player.

Did you modify the spin rate for lobbed balls? Because it doesn't bounce as far anymore - I like it!
 

Waldo1639

Senior Squad
SEPAKBOLA;3600255 said:
The reason I say that is because the players should be tighter together - that is how fouls are created (in addition to your theory of speed/agility/aggression,etc). So if you can figure a way to get them tighter/closer together (less space) that will be key for more fouls.
Not necessarily, making tigheter place would result in AI making tackles more effective and clear without fouling, imo.
 

SEPAKBOLA

Senior Squad
Waldo1639;3600258 said:
Not necessarily, making tigheter place would result in AI making tackles more effective and clear without fouling, imo.

Not with this set up, the DB in place by Fidel is resulting in less agility and less tackle IQ - it's quite physical. I believe the ref will call more fouls because the ball will be lost to the opposing team more often in tight spaces.
 

regularcat

Manager
Moderator
Waldo1639;3600258 said:
Not necessarily, making tigheter place would result in AI making tackles more effective and clear without fouling, imo.

i have something for you waldo, you will get a pm soon.
 

campeador

Reserve Team
i have installed Modding way full patch 1.2.6. than i installed combo set of Fidel. It gives me dont send...why?

after few tests seems attrib files are the problem.
 

Chopsticks

Club Supporter
Which A1 do you use?

Hi All,

Am using MW Patch 1.26 + HG2.0 +AI 2.3

Ok Season 2 in Career Mode

Gameplay very good

Just couple of issues yes 90% of bugs fixed but a couple of new ones instead
a.) Think this was mentioned earlier player runs past the ball sometimes making 1st time shots an issue and very annoying too.
Even the CPU suffers as had a CPU player pass back to the keeper from outside the box, Keeper came to meet the ball and ran straight past it for an OWN Goal ( very funny) but it was straight at him!!
b.)CPU makes more fouls than 2.2 but 50% of the time the Ref lets the CPU away with the foul?
c.) Still not sure if the full range of sliders work but put injuries up to 100% and had 4 * pulled muscles calf/Thigh etc.... in one game but it was the 1st friendly game of the season, so maybe that had an affect? so them moved it back to 99% and just the odd one now.

Finally have some friends coming over at Xmas to play Fifa don't really want them getting frustrated about the odd bug therefore is it worth loading AI 2.1?
I have never played 2.1 before or maybe you could let me know which one
is the most stable?
Please bear in mind some of them are not very good so would need to play on Semi assisted.

Thanks in advance for your suggested AI to use in offline Multiplayer.
 

campeador

Reserve Team
update:playing with entire combo set.
1.attrib files are not compatible with attrib 2 of fifaccitiu but this is not a problem,after attrib2 removing,game launch.
2.i cannot play with db instead of MW db,when i try to play new career the game give dont send.so,i had to play with your database but i can play only in custom tournaments.

conclusion:game is quite good for my taste,i say i like it very much,but i have a dilemma.i want to play in MW career or their new created tournaments.I understand that if i play with MW db + HG+AI the gameplay will suffer.Is that correct?
 

SEPAKBOLA

Senior Squad
Still seeking that aggression, Fidel. The fouls are here or there - but not enough aggression as I would like. Still testing sliders, but not sure if that is the answer.

The defenders do need to get past the half field line as well - I know this is a formations DB thing, but it'd be nice to see it incorporated in the next update.
 

dan2690

Club Supporter
SEPAKBOLA;3600467 said:
Still seeking that aggression, Fidel. The fouls are here or there - but not enough aggression as I would like. Still testing sliders, but not sure if that is the answer.

The defenders do need to get past the half field line as well - I know this is a formations DB thing, but it'd be nice to see it incorporated in the next update.


Same for me, I am using fidels latest db, hg, ai and see hardly any fouls espceially tackle fouls. Like otherrs have said the ai is just not aggressive enough or applys pressure, Sometimes i can just shield the ball and stand there and the whole ai team will just stand still, lol i swear if i just stayed there the game would finish with every one stood still. I also think players go out of there way to stay on there feet where in real life it is the opposite. Would also like to see more natural collisions and fouls. My biggest problem with fifa games has always been lack of fouls. Fouls and set pieces are a massive part of football.

Appeciate the work you do fidel.
 

belblade

Club Supporter
Fidel Gameplay said:
Hello, steps are correct, but you must restore and save squads from game menù before new career starting. Read my info on the txt file.
On Career mode you can see all gameplay changes/tweaks.
Bye
thanks, i'm guessing the gameplay is also affected in tournaments? I don't really like careers TBH :)

Fidel Gameplay said:
if you really want to enjoy the game,
you must use HG+DATABASE+AI (latest combo set updated)
full manual controller settings
10 minute half time minimum
wc or legendary difficulty
real all my tips, start a new career and believe me, you can see all that is real football in the fifa game.

2 questions here:
1) i read that your DB has really lowered all stats. Is it that different compared to MW's db ?
2) since i'm still learning the game I play at professional for now, is there no impact of your gameplay mods there ? or just less?

also, is there a description somewhere of what exactly is the impact of changes in DB vs AI vs HG ?

thanks a lot for your work, i've already enjoyed FIFA14 a lot more than i thought based on reviews...
 

SEPAKBOLA

Senior Squad
dan2690;3600587 said:
Same for me, I am using fidels latest db, hg, ai and see hardly any fouls espceially tackle fouls. Like otherrs have said the ai is just not aggressive enough or applys pressure, Sometimes i can just shield the ball and stand there and the whole ai team will just stand still, lol i swear if i just stayed there the game would finish with every one stood still. I also think players go out of there way to stay on there feet where in real life it is the opposite. Would also like to see more natural collisions and fouls. My biggest problem with fifa games has always been lack of fouls. Fouls and set pieces are a massive part of football.

Appeciate the work you do fidel.

I edited some values of the cl.ini file - not sure if it works or is a placebo. I did see a more aggressive approach and the CPU started cutting off angles a bit better. The sliders were really creating errors and having the CPU be aggressive because they lost the ball. I have to upload the clips later to show what I'm talking about.

What I saw with sliders in regards to the "marking" value - when above 50, it makes the angle of pressure more narrow - as if the player wants to get as close to the ball-carrier as possible, and make a tackle. With the marking value below 50 - the player tries to get in front of the ball-carrier first.
 

Chopsticks

Club Supporter
Waldo1639;3598033 said:
Add more lines? No. I deleted 70% and more of Fidels lines and changed some values. Wanna try my .ini? I use it with Fidel's HG 2.0, default db.

Hi Waldo,

Could I try your Ini File?

Can you send it to me?

Thanks.
 


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