My Idea About A World Cup Of Clubs

[tinytim]

despite that many european clubs complain all the time(*) I'm sure a world cup of clubs it is a true possibility. Dunno if u'll agree with the format I suggest:

It would happen every two years, after the world cup and Eurocup.

so, the next editions would be in 2007 and 2009, for example.

qualifying - the four semifinal teams in libertadores, for the last two years, making it 8 southamerican qualified teams. the same for europe, africa, concacaf, etc..except for asia and oceania, which sorta got 'united' as a confederation now, and their 16 teams would have to find a way (a quick tourney or perfomance criteria) to turn that 16 into 8, making it 32 clubs.

the countries where the cups would happen could be selected from those ones which recently organized world cups...'cause they would have at least, the beginning of the necessary structure already 'assembled' or at least, 'learned'...so, this first world cup of clubs would be, in '2007' in the USA, then '2009' france, the next in Japan/Corea, Germany, South Africa and so on...or maybe sub-20 cup countries (like Netherlands) could be used, too.

so, what u say? too dreamy?

 

[$teauA]

despite that many european clubs complain all the time(*) I'm sure a world cup of clubs it is a true possibility. Dunno if u'll agree with the format I suggest:

It would happen every two years, after the world cup and Eurocup.

so, the next editions would be in 2007 and 2009, for example.

qualifying - the four semifinal teams in libertadores, for the last two years, making it 8 southamerican qualified teams. the same for europe, africa, concacaf, etc..except for asia and oceania, which sorta got 'united' as a confederation now, and their 16 teams would have to find a way (a quick tourney or perfomance criteria) to turn that 16 into 8, making it 32 clubs.

they countries could be selected from those ones which recently organized world cups...'cause they would have at least, the beginning of the necessary structure already 'assembled' or at least, 'learned'...so, this first world cup of clubs would be, in '2007' in the USA, then '2009' france, the next in Japan/Corea, Germany, South Africa and so on...or maybe sub-20 cup countries (like Netherlands) could be used, too.

so, what u say? too dreamy?

What's the point? who wants to see clubs from Iran play against AC Milan or Sao Paulo? I say that they should just stick with the format that they ditched (Intercontinental Cup, CL winner vs. Libertadores winner) instead of the crap they will do now.

 

[Kibe Kru]

After a World Cup, or Euro, the players are already way too tired to compete, and such a competition would be extremely long, thus making it impossible...
The calendar is already too packed up, so I guess one/two games are enough, if they really need some competition...

 

[ShiftyPowers]

What a dumb idea. First of all clubs outside of Europe, Brazil, and Argentina are irrelevant because they just can't compete. Secondly, what happens say, when 3 of the same teams make the semi finals in consecutive years? Do you take Quarter Finalists? But which ones do you take? Or if you take a semi finalist from 3 years back, why take a club that isn't as good NOW as quarter finalists? Seems to me a better way of finding 8 teams is to take the Champions of the top 8 leagues, or the top 2 from the best 4 nations. Oh, but isn't that the Champions League? What's the point man, all the best players get sold to european clubs, the Champions League is good enough.

 

[Bobby]

The current model they want to use is good.

CONCACAF, OFC, AFC, and CAF in the quater finals.

UEFA and South America in the semi-finals.

 

[tinytim]

What a dumb idea. First of all clubs outside of Europe, Brazil, and Argentina are irrelevant because they just can't compete. Secondly, what happens say, when 3 of the same teams make the semi finals in consecutive years? Do you take Quarter Finalists? But which ones do you take? Or if you take a semi finalist from 3 years back, why take a club that isn't as good NOW as quarter finalists? Seems to me a better way of finding 8 teams is to take the Champions of the top 8 leagues, or the top 2 from the best 4 nations. Oh, but isn't that the Champions League? What's the point man, all the best players get sold to european clubs, the Champions League is good enough.

hey calm down man! watch out the bombs! haha...

u don't need to be so harsh like that...be cool, be cool...

i forgot to mention that I'd like to see fifa norm the number of teams for each league in the world...nothing more nothing less than a stablished number (maybe, like 18? I wouldn't know)...that would make it enough time to players rest and compete, or even work on a pre-season training.

btw...not all the players go to world nations or continental nations cups. not all teams would participate ever year. and if the semifinalists for one year got to be the same for the other...ok, get the team eliminated by them. I don't know...that's for FIFA, not for me. I only drew the skeleton. They'd fill it with flesh, not me! hehe...it's just a sketch, but i'd stick to it basically.

I don't think those small teams as u put are irrelevant. that's such a nasty thought.

in first place, u got excellent players - key ones, historically - playing for clubs either in past on present, coming from 'meaningless' countries. Dely Valdes, Litmanen, Shevchenko, George Weah, Ryan Giggs...all born in countries which have no tradition at all in a world cup and any real-deal club competition..they don't mean nothing in football scenario and never meant. but look at what they've done in those clubs...

imagine players from small teams, making big teams defender sweat with their lone, but meaningful talent. If u can get a nakata and nakamura out of a J-League, u can find much more of that in a world cup of clubs. the motivation, the atmosphere...transforms the excitement of a player...even if that player is the only one really 'highlighteable' in his team.

we already saw that in a world cup - a player alone, carrying his meaningless national team on his back...and becoming sorta a legend. do you wanna an example? hagi. Romania was something in USA because of him. can't u picture a talented player, from a small club team do the same in a club context?

when it comes to 'world', 'globalize' and football...i guess anything can happen. the obvious isn't welcome or expected, be sure of it.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

No I can't picture that because with scouting the way it is right now, any brilliant player will be in one of the top 10 leagues in the world before he turns 19.

 

[KLINSMANN]

The current model they want to use is good.

CONCACAF, OFC, AFC, and CAF in the quater finals.

UEFA and South America in the semi-finals.

Yeah, that seems like a good format. The German League Cup which happens just before the regular season starts is done the same way. The german champions and the german cup champions are qualified for the Semi Finals while the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th places play out the "Quarter Finals."

Right now, a World Cup for Clubs would mean absolutely nothing!! European teams might even show up with their B squads and what's the point then if some asian team can win the World Cup of Clubs? Does that mean that they're suddenly the best team in the entire world? No! Soccer is expanding, at the club level especially. A lot of asian countries are making leagues better.

Maybe in a few decades the soccer world will even out. When African teams and Asian teams start winning World Cups, THEN we CONSIDER a Club World Cup! But until then, it's a waste of time, money and players' fatigue.

 

[tinytim]

After a World Cup, or Euro, the players are already way too tired to compete, and such a competition would be extremely long, thus making it impossible...
The calendar is already too packed up, so I guess one/two games are enough, if they really need some competition...

when I mean after the world cup and/or eurocup, I meant in the following year to a world cup and eurocup...

 

[tinytim]

No I can't picture that because with scouting the way it is right now, any brilliant player will be in one of the top 10 leagues in the world before he turns 19.

what a hopeless way of thiking! we should only watch 2nd division, then!

i don't think so..even veteran players can surprise in a big competition...and i'd like to see that...

 

[tinytim]

Yeah, that seems like a good format. The German League Cup which happens just before the regular season starts is done the same way. The german champions and the german cup champions are qualified for the Semi Finals while the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th places play out the "Quarter Finals."

Right now, a World Cup for Clubs would mean absolutely nothing!! European teams might even show up with their B squads and what's the point then if some asian team can win the World Cup of Clubs? Does that mean that they're suddenly the best team in the entire world? No! Soccer is expanding, at the club level especially. A lot of asian countries are making leagues better.

Maybe in a few decades the soccer world will even out. When African teams and Asian teams start winning World Cups, THEN we CONSIDER a Club World Cup! But until then, it's a waste of time, money and players' fatigue.

i don't think so...i think that what makes european clubs not so motivated to play a world 'championship' is the fact that they're short and quite 'friendly'...i don't feel the serious atmosphere that match was supposed to inspire in fans and players of those european clubs. would u feel like it, if ur team played that 'final match' in Japan against a s.american club?

however, a cup as a real cup, 7 matches, one throphy...dunno...it pushes the player head to that direction...he wants to play it and win it...it's inevitable...at least, that's my point of view.

 

[tinytim]

despite that many european clubs complain all the time(*)

ooops...I forgot to add the (*) meaning:

(*) they always complain about matches against other clubs from other continents, specially south american...and I can only guess...is that a fear of losing big time? like borussia dortmund in 1996...they played against palmeiras in a 'euro-america trophy' and got 6-0 in their asses...it should be 7-0, but the referee didn't value a free kick (flawless, btw) goal by rivaldo...????

and in 1998, as far as I remember, ajax played against sao paulo in morumbi stadium, in a foggy, foggy night (the match had to be finished earlier because of that) and the final result was a sweat 1-1, and sao paulo was quite aggressive all the time against them...???...well, u tell me...i guess that european clubs don't give such importance about playing against south american clubs...coz they're afraid to lose shamefully...

 

[claupastore]

sure

 

[Vagegast]

Who cares about South America? Just keep sending us your coffee beans and cocaine

 

[Deisler]

Who cares about South America? Just keep sending us your coffee beans and cocaine

The Chikas too.




As far as this crappy idea of having the semis from the CL and make am play teams like Yokohamo Marinos or dslfkjskgjhsandlkv;bsnfkb ....
Players are complainting already for being over charged and addind gas to the fire is BS.

 

[claupastore]

dont forget weed...

 

[SlayerDeuS]

Buddy make it an 8 team mini-tourney CL Winner, EPL Winner, Serie A Winner, Bundesliga Winner, Liga Winner, Argentina Winner, Brazil Winner, Libertadores Winner. Screw everyone else.....

 

[Voltaic Borusse]

Hey, you guys down their should start exporting your women, too.

 

[Kibe Kru]

heh it's not like we don't already...
just ask David Coulthard... or that Di Caprio guy...

they tend to be more expensive than our players though... and often much more overrated as well....

 

[tinytim]

Who cares about South America? Just keep sending us your coffee beans and cocaine

hmmm...one more line and it would turn into an application to the nazy party...sorry, but true.