My Idea About A World Cup Of Clubs

[tinytim]

The Chikas too.




As far as this crappy idea of having the semis from the CL and make am play teams like Yokohamo Marinos or dslfkjskgjhsandlkv;bsnfkb ....
Players are complainting already for being over charged and addind gas to the fire is BS.

i keep on disagreeing...just look at the matches that real madrid is playing all around...it was an exciting match against chivas, u cant deny it...it was just a friendly...when u got the 'challenge' of an important match in a 'cup' things look different, I'm saying it...

don't get offended dude...but i find such a nasty atitude from u and others here think that the rest of the world don't care...if it really didn't, u wouldn't see players out of the south america-europe duo doing great in clubs. u wouldn't even see players from small countries of those continents doing it.

how secure can u be that kind of playes wouldn't come out greatly in a world cup of clubs like that? maybe with a great performance against ur big club, for example...

about teams in semis...well, I remember dinamo kyiv had a great squad when schevchenko, shirt 10, was first 'shown' to the world. as far as I remember, the squad was 'dissolved' next year, and many of those excellent players got lost around.

i think that if u 'qualified' a team to world cup, which had qualified to a semi in its continental league maybe 2 years before, u would push the managers to keep a good squad, so they'd participate in that cup with a team compatible to the reputation they got after qualifying to that semi.

it is easy for a big club fan to talk, after all u are the predators of football, just put the money into managers and players noses, and it's ok, you bring the best and are able to keep them for 4, 5 years. it's not the same for smaller, 'insignificant' as you almost put, teams.

 

[tinytim]

Hey, you guys down their should start exporting your women, too.

if u went to the south region of our country, u'd be mad...

imagine the finest pretty german, italian and spanish girls...mixed with portuguese and indian hips...that's it...u got 'gauchas', girls from the south...just an example...

Luize Altenhofen:

http://www2.uol.com.br/simbolo/corpoacorpo/1101/images/bel01.jpg

Renata Fan:

http://busca.ubbi.com.br/resultados...erse.co.tt/bios/brazil.htm&resize=1&size=35.5

Vanessa Schutz:

http://people.freenet.de/boehser_onkel05/Wallpaper/Vanessa/Vanessa Schutz 1152x864.jpg

oh yeah, oh right, take it easy baby, make it last all night...she was, a brazilain girl!!!!

 

[Deisler]

If it was up to me i would banish foreign players from playing abroad. And that i want to see you whine on who has the better teams. It's not enough we feed your players and make am millionares throwing millions of euros? Now we have to satisfy your fans and come play in Brazil and risk our players lifes? How many fvcking football families have been involved in hostage takings?
First fix up your problems and act humanly that ask us to come play your filthy teams.

 

[ufojeremy]

it is too early to sleep

 

[tinytim]

If it was up to me i would banish foreign players from playing abroad. And that i want to see you whine on who has the better teams. It's not enough we feed your players and make am millionares throwing millions of euros? Now we have to satisfy your fans and come play in Brazil and risk our players lifes? How many fvcking football families have been involved in hostage takings?
First fix up your problems and act humanly that ask us to come play your filthy teams.

hahaha...that's hilarious...if our teams are filthy, i imagine our players too...mmmm...maybe like...zé roberto, or lucio? are they?

well...u can enter in the 'social field' if u want...ok...

let's say that robinho decided among the following clubs...

real madrid (almost sure) - u got ETA and other terrorists targeting a country that largely suports what they call 'trespassing'.

arsenal - well...needless to say, considering what's happening lately

bayern - germany it is also another country 'promised' to suffer terrorist acts soon

milan, inter, juventus - same than germany.


so, dude if u think we live unsafe...hmmm...maybe ur just 'less unsafe' but not secure...europe isn't Eden's garden...btw...what's the last reports about the drug traffic in ur country tell? oh yea...i got DTW at home, so...

it seems u know quite nothing about football...for u, a cup, a competition it is about seeing who's better? I think it's about playing the game, winning comes with talent. that's why ur nasty national team will ashame u next year, at home, mark my words. ur like football robots, gosh...and ur opinions show it so well.

 

[Hendrik]

You seriously wanna tell us that South America is a safer place to live than Europe? Give me some of that sh*t you smoked.

 

[tinytim]

You seriously wanna tell us that South America is a safer place to live than Europe? Give me some of that sh*t you smoked.

of course it isn't...but don't u fool urself thinking that ur in a kind of 'security heaven' cos ur not...the safer the country, the bigger (and maybe more specific) the dangers...we don't have terrorists here, u do. we have crime, u don't...(maybe in a smaller margin)...so, i guess that when it comes to safety...everything is quite balanced all around...

imagine robinho being transferred to arsenal and taking a ride around london, close to that bus...then, what people would say? he ran from kidnapping in brazil and get wounded/killed in europe? that would be stupid.

danger is everywhere, pal.

 

[Kibe Kru]

I wonder what kind of bull**** they show about Brazil in other countries...
sure, it's bad enough, security is crap, but the way europeans react on these fora makes you think you can't carry a thing into the streets that you'll be robbed...

and to Deisler...

it's not like we don't have money here, and that they go to europe begging for food... europe have money, much more than we do...but Santos was top class when the overseas transfer were rare... Brazil won 3 world cups with almost no foreign based players in the squad...
I guess you can say the quality of the european leagues improved when S. Am. players were 'inserted' there... you had the tactical awareness, we had the dribbling skills...

And I'm not so sure what you call 'act humanly'... I could mention several stuff that are much worse than anything that happens in Brazil... but I'm not into that kind of discussion...

 

[tinytim]

not to mention the racism...

is it 'schwarz' a term used against black skinned players?

i remeber bernardo, who played for corinthians, told that people called him just like that...

i guess that deisler's opinion makes u feel that any brazilian citizen it is a potential burglar...is that what tv networks show around there?

i've got a friend from sweden, i talk to her via msn...she told she saw a newspaper report telling about brazilian macho...that we only admit pretty girls in our jobs, that we demand girls to look lean, pretty and hot...etc, etc..

ok, then i could say that french girls don't wash themselves, they got furry armpits, that german don't take showers oftenly, that Italy's streets are dirty and people are stingy, danish and finnish are arrogant/rude...and the list goes on and on...i just mentioned her that swedish girls have the reputation of being sexmaniacs...so??

london will base olympic games and in the same week a bomb explodes a bus...imagine ur family inside that bus...can u picture it? they travelled there to watch olympic games and unexpectedly die that way...how would that feel? u'd rather see them being robbed/killed by a latin burglar?

this is so stupid...it gives the impression that as soon u leave a stadium, u got ur wallet gone.

oh and about football (that's what we're all about here right)...imagine real madrid with no ronaldo, roberto carlos. or ur average (with a ridiculous goalkeeper) bayern without lucio and ze roberto...barcelona with no ronaldinho, eto'o...etc, etc...

most of those players I mentioned started their careers in meaningless teams and got noticed coz they played against big teams, showing their preocious talent...and then...they've turned into what they are.

imagine if brazilian big clubs simply said: 'oh c'mon...uniao sao joao f.c. (first roberto carlos club) can't match us, let's play against the big ones from the capitals and bring their players with our vast money...(hehe)...

a great talent would be lost, as many do now cause your big teams come here and buy really young players, from small or big teams.

so...aren't our teams filthy? why the hell ur managers try the best they can to buy our teenage players every year?

how many deislers germany can make every season?

ur ridiculous...

and since the beginning, i never suggested brazil to host this world cup...i suggested previous world cup/sub-20 cities. bingo!!

 

[Hendrik]

uh yeah whatever...

I want to clearify that the term "schwarz" means black and is in no way seen as racism like the N word.

 

[Deisler]

Wtf ETA is not directly affecting Football like the crime in Brasil. And than 3 world cups with players from Brazil? Agreed, but now ask any kid from Brazil what his dream is and you'll get an answer like that: I want to play football in Europe. No one says i want to win the world cup or i want to became part of Brazilian football history.
Have you ever seen any German, Italin, British and Spanish player play in Brazil?
And that what the fvck has Germany to do with this? We were talking about a possible world cup club? The world cup is quite enough for the clash of the continents.
Because there are teams like Argentina and Brazil that have a hardcore team base that plays in europe.
Compare santos with Real Madrid
Once Caldas with Barcelona
Corinthias with Bayern
Boca with Juventus
River with Milan..

Loks like David against Goliat.
ANd add here teams from Asia or Oqeania and what you get? A sh!ttier comptetition than the already crappy Libertadores Cup.
Compare the same Libertadores with the Champions League......well lets not go there.

 

[Kibe Kru]

Wtf ETA is not directly affecting Football like the crime in Brasil. And than 3 world cups with players from Brazil? Agreed, but now ask any kid from Brazil what his dream is and you'll get an answer like that: I want to play football in Europe. No one says i want to win the world cup or i want to became part of Brazilian football history.

How often have you been to Brazil, or how many kids did you ask about his dream to come up with that?
Kids in Brazil are football crazy, and I'm pretty sure they'd rather play in the team they support rather than Europe... at least until agents come saying they can earn more in Europe...
Robinho said he's going to Madrid so that he can win the best player award... because no matter how great he is in Brazil, he won't get the award... hardly fair, but that's the way it is...

Have you ever seen any German, Italin, British and Spanish player play in Brazil?

Why would they? so they'd earn less? and it's not like they'd have a guaranteed place anyway.. they'd have to adapt to a new culture, new style of play and everything...
And you wouldn't have s. americans playing in Europe if there were better players there... they don't come here and say "oh, he's almost dying of starvation, let's take him to Europe"
I'm sure Real wouldn't be so mad about Robinho if they had someone much better in Spain... or Bayern with Lucio... Leverkusen even got Roque Junior... I mean, for god's sake, Roque Junior!!!

Because there are teams like Argentina and Brazil that have a hardcore team base that plays in europe.

Italy 90 saw the worst Brazilian team ever in World Cups... the players were in their vast majority based in Europe....

Compare santos with Real Madrid
Once Caldas with Barcelona
Corinthias with Bayern
Boca with Juventus
River with Milan..

Loks like David against Goliat.

Compare Liverpool with Milan...
Liverpool with Juventus
Greece with Portugal
Greece with France
Greece with Czech Rep
Does it look any different?

ANd add here teams from Asia or Oqeania and what you get? A sh!ttier comptetition than the already crappy Libertadores Cup.
Compare the same Libertadores with the Champions League......well lets not go there.

Crappy Libertadores Cup? oh, well... just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad... did you ever watch it? it's filled with players europe will be "feeding" for the next seasons...

 

[tinytim]

uh yeah whatever...

I want to clearify that the term "schwarz" means black and is in no way seen as racism like the N word.

it depends on the accent u say it...'u schwarz'...it's quite different than saying 'that's my schwarz taxido'...just to example, of course...

words from a player who played for kaiserslautern, he's brazilian.

 

[tinytim]

How often have you been to Brazil, or how many kids did you ask about his dream to come up with that?
Kids in Brazil are football crazy, and I'm pretty sure they'd rather play in the team they support rather than Europe... at least until agents come saying they can earn more in Europe...
Robinho said he's going to Madrid so that he can win the best player award... because no matter how great he is in Brazil, he won't get the award... hardly fair, but that's the way it is...



Why would they? so they'd earn less? and it's not like they'd have a guaranteed place anyway.. they'd have to adapt to a new culture, new style of play and everything...
And you wouldn't have s. americans playing in Europe if there were better players there... they don't come here and say "oh, he's almost dying of starvation, let's take him to Europe"
I'm sure Real wouldn't be so mad about Robinho if they had someone much better in Spain... or Bayern with Lucio... Leverkusen even got Roque Junior... I mean, for god's sake, Roque Junior!!!



Italy 90 saw the worst Brazilian team ever in World Cups... the players were in their vast majority based in Europe....



Compare Liverpool with Milan...
Liverpool with Juventus
Greece with Portugal
Greece with France
Greece with Czech Rep
Does it look any different?



Crappy Libertadores Cup? oh, well... just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad... did you ever watch it? it's filled with players europe will be "feeding" for the next seasons...

no need to explain anymore...this guy is drunk by the fermentation of sausages in his stomach...

watch more football deisler...not only crappy skinny pale-white german players 'playing'...or ur average league...

btw...what happend to ur 'goliath' team in 1999 again?

ha!

 

[Hendrik]

no need to explain anymore...this guy is drunk by the fermentation of sausages in his stomach...

watch more football deisler...not only crappy skinny pale-white german players 'playing'...ha!

Reported for racism.

or ur average league...

That's gold coming from a Brazilian.

 

[Deisler]

btw...what happend to ur 'goliath' team in 1999 again?

fvckface at least you remember what happened to Bayern, i don't even recall who won the damn sh!tty libertadores...if it wasn't for the fact that Palmeiras had to play Man U that year i wouldn't even bother to ask who won it. The truth is that 99 team made your @$$ sitt in front of the TV and watch and ironically remember it..

pale-white german players 'playing'

Is that the same lame@$$ whinner who hates racism speaking? Pathetic mate, no respect for equality and a low blow to the ones who actually fight for it.

watch more football deisler

What a lasy way of discussing, can't handle the straight forward arguing and jumpship into paths that lead no where....watever man

 

[Kibe Kru]

Reported for racism.


That's gold coming from a Brazilian.

Gotta agree with you Vince...

Tim, mate.. attacking other people is NOT going to win you any arguments... the same stuff happened in your other thread...

 

[Vagegast]

and in 1998, as far as I remember, ajax played against sao paulo in morumbi stadium, in a foggy, foggy night (the match had to be finished earlier because of that) and the final result was a sweat 1-1, and sao paulo was quite aggressive all the time against them..a

Oh yeah! I remember not caring about this match

 

[Bobby]

World Champions 2005

 

[tinytim]

Reported for racism.


That's gold coming from a Brazilian.

hahah...why racism? are they tanned like surfers? hehe...well, tell ur friend to explain what he means with 'act humanly'.

i like watching some matches in german league...most because of the brazilian players like lincoln, ze roberto, robson pontes, ailton...and because of some funny bragging clowns like...what's his name again? oh yes...oliver kahn.

who knows...maybe the one guy which makes me cheer up and scream after a goal will be playing in ur team next season...will it be gold, then?

i mean, why the hell do u think ur continent is the center of the world? i'm not directing it to all the europeans here, but only the german are so nasty arrogant lately...is it something about the world cup? congratulations! are u satisfied now?