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[skyyaa]

Hey Nk,
After trying out the new build you gave me I gotta say it was a step backwards from the previous build. The ball physics seem weird (passing seems sluggish) and the shooting is loonier than ever (balls seem to float way too high and any long shots just fly waaay over the bar). Also the cpu closes down so fast and with 3 or 4 guys at a time it is very hard to get any free-flowing football going. I really prefered the last build with just a couple tweaks to the close shooting accuracy (more accurate), a more aggressive cpu attack, and MAYBE just a bit more aggressive cpu defense. It seems this build was a complete overhaul, and I've gotta say I don't like the feel of it right now. (:/)

 

[walpurgisng]

If we are talking about the build that was released on Sweethpatch a few days ago then everything is fine--except for the difficulty of the World Class--which needs to be upped.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

i'm looking into the ball physics now because believe it nor not I haven't touched them! I think they're right as they are so I didn't change anything from X-PRO except a bit more curl on the ball. Everything else is the same.

It might be the flow of play. I'll see to this.

NK.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

Hey Nk,
After trying out the new build you gave me I gotta say it was a step backwards from the previous build. The ball physics seem weird (passing seems sluggish) and the shooting is loonier than ever (balls seem to float way too high and any long shots just fly waaay over the bar). Also the cpu closes down so fast and with 3 or 4 guys at a time it is very hard to get any free-flowing football going. I really prefered the last build with just a couple tweaks to the close shooting accuracy (more accurate), a more aggressive cpu attack, and MAYBE just a bit more aggressive cpu defense. It seems this build was a complete overhaul, and I've gotta say I don't like the feel of it right now. (:/)

For now Skyya try lowering the difficulty to Semi-pro, trust me give it a go and see what you think. The pressure of the play is exactly the same as it is on Legendary, but there are differences that make Semi-pro a challenge, but if you can't keep up you can still play the ball around on Semi-pro.

I'm scoring goals on legendary which is why I'm making it harder. You must lower the challenge if it is too great on world class/legendary for this build. But I am working on the shooting heights and pressures.

NK.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

the shooting range is now much greater and the chance of hitting a shot in your best range is greater chanced also.

The error angle of a shot is much more tolerable, so you won't hit a terribly wide shot often, but the shot height is still sensitive to the power-bar, which does however powerup slower not in terms of literal speed/gameplay, but the physics of the shot itself.

Shots also have more power so you'll see some scorching goals that burns holes in the net!

NK.

 

[skyyaa]

I think it's player physics that is bothering me. Players seem clunkier and prone to losing the ball real easily, the cpu catches up to you and takes the ball away so fast, even on break away oppurtunities. Also is the low blast possible yet? It bugs me to no end that that shot is not possible and even break aways and 1v1 vs the goalie like 10 feet away is no sure thing because you can't rely on putting one in the corner.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

I think it's player physics that is bothering me. Players seem clunkier and prone to losing the ball real easily, the cpu catches up to you and takes the ball away so fast, even on break away oppurtunities. Also is the low blast possible yet? It bugs me to no end that that shot is not possible and even break aways and 1v1 vs the goalie like 10 feet away is no sure thing because you can't rely on putting one in the corner.

When you play the final build, there will be no sure way of predicting a goal. Of course the chance will be greater 1v1, but nothing certain.

However, low shots will be possible. This is a beta you're playing, there's still work. It's not a solid game yet as you can see, there's problems with player physics. I will solve these issue's.

I'm not sure that you're quite on my level here buddy. You see, I create a defence to defend better. If they catch you and defend, surely they are doing their job? And the fact that you don't hit the target all the time with long shots is true to life is it not? However, you're right about the shooting in the way that it is too sensitive to the height/power.

I have fixed the shooting now, shots are not balloon like anymore. They have great power and you can really hit a shot too high, but you can hit them on target if you are composed better. Before I think the shot was so sensitive that you could be stood still, put a bit of power on the shot and it would fly over the bar. This was simply a bug. It's fixed now.

I just lost 6-0 on legendary against Brazil playing as England. Because of this I now know to increase the user-keeper skill to have a greater chance of saving such powerful attempts at goal. They really did attack him! Poor guy haha.

As for defence, they will still close down quickly. I think this is good. In real-games, teams that build-up play do so because they are GOOD, not because the other team wants to give them all that possession. So in the final build, if you can't create a real goal-scoring chance, lower the difficulty to lower the challenge and cpu close down speeds.

Once you get used to it and learn a more tactical/advanced way of building up your game, you will create some wonderful and rewarding chances.

I guarantee you will be entertained. And that is the main thing. Realism and challenge are nothing if you don't have FUN!


EDIT: talking of cpu defence, just for a side note...cpu players' don't run faster than user players'. This isn't the reason why they catch upto you, they just mark better and close you down faster so if you do break them, they'll have a defender who has a chance of catching up, unless of course you are Rooney vs a lower league defence.

NK.

 

[walpurgisng]

If this is a new build can you please email it to me as I'm always looking to test? As for defense, do not change it, its great that its hard to get a shot on and I cannot just run into the box and around defenders. People need to learn how to play better rather than the game being dumb for them.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

If this is a new build can you please email it to me as I'm always looking to test? As for defense, do not change it, its great that its hard to get a shot on and I cannot just run into the box and around defenders. People need to learn how to play better rather than the game being dumb for them.

check your e-mail mate

NK.

 

[paolo-fcb]

I play at top level (champion) and I wish to try the update so the game will be a little harder

 

[galsen]

can you please email me the new build to test if the defence is very difficult to pass and if the opposite try to do more a constructive play

sorry for my english

 

[pfk505]

is anyone else averaging like 5-6 goals per game (total from both teams) with 6 minute halfs? im wondering if something is wrong.

 

[skyyaa]

Haha so now I'm no good at fifa because I'm criticizing the defense? I've had very good success at all the top levels with your previous patches and I can still score goals and win a majority of the time with this beta but most goals result from passing the ball up the field on the first or second touch at a torrid pace until I can get a striker the ball inside the 18 to basically blast it at the keep point blank. This is not only not fun but not realistic either! And I realize that scoring should never be a certainty but a professional soccer player should deffinetly be able to slot the ball low in the corner on a break-away 80-90% of the time. I'm just saying that making the cpu defense so vice-like that you are forced to make a pass on the first or second touch means there is very little time to let things develope like in a real game and as a result you end up playing "arcade" like soccer. And I'm not trying to be arrogant but based on people reactions to your previous patches I think the average player will have even more trouble with the D than I am. All I'm saying is that I'm putting my vote out for more focus on the cpu's 'on the ball' and attacking AI to create a more dynamic and realistic experiece rather than just rachetting up the defense to make it harder.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

you may need to advance your playing style. running down the wings or simply trying to pass without thinking won't get you anywhere in real life....so why should it in fifa??

Sorry if I sound short, real busy.

NK.

 

[elhelmiey]

fifa07 default ai for shooting

the shooting is really worst so i just create a file named "ai.ini" in fifa07 main directory where here goes the default fifa07 ai for shooting...

SHOT_IDEAL_TARGET_HEIGHT = 0.5
SHOT_WRONG_FOOT_FINESSE_SPIN = 0.009
SHOT_ERROR_TOWARD_FACING_DIR_JOG = 0.6
SHOT_ERROR_TOWARD_FACING_DIR_SPRINT = 0.75
SHOT_ERROR_TOWARD_FACING_DIR_SLIDING = 0.9
SHOT_ERROR_TOWARD_FACING_DIR_STRETCH = 0.8
SHOT_RESTITUTION_COEFF = 0.5
SHOT_ONE_TIMER_PREPARE_TIME = 25
SHOT_MAX_BALL_OUT_ANGLE_TOLERANCE = 10.0
SHOT_ENABLE_AIMING_CENTRE = 1
SHOT_CENTER_AIM_TOLERANCE = 0.12
SHOT_SPIN_GENERATION_BY_CAPPED_DIR_ERROR = 1.2

SHOT_HIGH_POWER_ANIM_MIN_SPEED = 32.0
SHOT_NORMAL_POWER_ANIM_MIN_SPEED = 20.0
SHOT_LOW_POWER_ANIM_MAX_SPEED = 24.0
SHOT_HIGH_POWER_FINESSE_ANIM_MIN_SPEED = 27.0
SHOT_NORMAL_POWER_FINESSE_ANIM_MIN_SPEED = 18.0
SHOT_MAX_PRESSURE_FOR_HIGH_POWER_ANIM = 0.7

SHOT_MAX_SPEED_FOR_STRETCH_SHOT = 22.0
SHOT_MAX_SPEED_FOR_SLIDE_SHOT = 10.0

i like everything in Nk Football © Fifa™ X-pro except the shooting

 

[walpurgisng]

NK dont listen to these people who have no clue.

 

[paolo-fcb]

It's true, shooting is very hard now but more realistic
NK, when will be out your new gameplay X-R? U said this week......

 

[walpurgisng]

elhelmiey, maybe you need to learn how to shoot. Fifa 2007 has a learning curve and it takes time and skill to shoot correctly. I like NKs tweaks because it creates that "aaaaawww damnit" effect when you just miss.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

the shooting is really worst so i just create a file named "ai.ini" in fifa07 main directory where here goes the default fifa07 ai for shooting...

SHOT_IDEAL_TARGET_HEIGHT = 0.5
SHOT_WRONG_FOOT_FINESSE_SPIN = 0.009
SHOT_ERROR_TOWARD_FACING_DIR_JOG = 0.6
SHOT_ERROR_TOWARD_FACING_DIR_SPRINT = 0.75
SHOT_ERROR_TOWARD_FACING_DIR_SLIDING = 0.9
SHOT_ERROR_TOWARD_FACING_DIR_STRETCH = 0.8
SHOT_RESTITUTION_COEFF = 0.5
SHOT_ONE_TIMER_PREPARE_TIME = 25
SHOT_MAX_BALL_OUT_ANGLE_TOLERANCE = 10.0
SHOT_ENABLE_AIMING_CENTRE = 1
SHOT_CENTER_AIM_TOLERANCE = 0.12
SHOT_SPIN_GENERATION_BY_CAPPED_DIR_ERROR = 1.2

SHOT_HIGH_POWER_ANIM_MIN_SPEED = 32.0
SHOT_NORMAL_POWER_ANIM_MIN_SPEED = 20.0
SHOT_LOW_POWER_ANIM_MAX_SPEED = 24.0
SHOT_HIGH_POWER_FINESSE_ANIM_MIN_SPEED = 27.0
SHOT_NORMAL_POWER_FINESSE_ANIM_MIN_SPEED = 18.0
SHOT_MAX_PRESSURE_FOR_HIGH_POWER_ANIM = 0.7

SHOT_MAX_SPEED_FOR_STRETCH_SHOT = 22.0
SHOT_MAX_SPEED_FOR_SLIDE_SHOT = 10.0

i like everything in Nk Football © Fifa™ X-pro except the shooting

You should learn how to shoot before putting the 'easy' shooting mechanic back on.

The shooting in X-PRO can be a bit too sensitive yes, but you can learn.

The worst thing you can do is give up on it. It's much more rewarding to score when it's not easy to do so. The psychological affect of scoring when an effort was made to develop the chance, like in real life...is rewarding.

So I disagree with your choice to go back to the original shooting mechanic, as goals are far too easy to score.



NK.

p.s. not telling you how to play your game, just that you should at least learn how to play my update if you're going to use it!

 

[elhelmiey]

well... hell yes ur right NK FOOTBALL © everything u did in ur NK FOOTBALL © FIFA™ X-Pro is really the best ever ai that i've played in fifa07. it's really difficult to score even it's one-by-one with the gk. i've watched the 10th best goals in epl for 06-07 season in you tube and really want to do like those. just can't wait for your NK FOOTBALL © FIFA™ X-R to be released! as most of people in my place love to play pes/ we i do really hope ur next ai can 'defeat' those ais :P