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jackbauer

Youth Team
NK FOOTBALL ©;2297498 said:
You should learn how to shoot before putting the 'easy' shooting mechanic back on. :)

The shooting in X-PRO can be a bit too sensitive yes, but you can learn.

The worst thing you can do is give up on it. It's much more rewarding to score when it's not easy to do so. The psychological affect of scoring when an effort was made to develop the chance, like in real life...is rewarding.

So I disagree with your choice to go back to the original shooting mechanic, as goals are far too easy to score.

:jap:

NK.

p.s. not telling you how to play your game, just that you should at least learn how to play my update if you're going to use it! :)

I agree with this...completely. I had originally installed the Hardcore Striker and then uninstalled it thinking it was too hard. The result.....scoring was too easy. I'm back to using hardcore striker.

A couple of issues that I think need to be resolved...if possible.... are the CPU attacking and sub patterns. It seems as if the CPU is more aggressive at the end of the halves...no matter what the score is. I understand a late push if they're behind but the game seems very "scripted" to me.

As far as substitutions I think it's great that the CPU finally does it but they always seem to sub between 60 and 65 minutes. That's not subbing according to the flow of the game. That's scripted.
 

NK FOOTBALL ©

Senior Squad
Carlos*bauer;2297568 said:
I agree with this...completely. I had originally installed the Hardcore Striker and then uninstalled it thinking it was too hard. The result.....scoring was too easy. I'm back to using hardcore striker.

A couple of issues that I think need to be resolved...if possible.... are the CPU attacking and sub patterns. It seems as if the CPU is more aggressive at the end of the halves...no matter what the score is. I understand a late push if they're behind but the game seems very "scripted" to me.

As far as substitutions I think it's great that the CPU finally does it but they always seem to sub between 60 and 65 minutes. That's not subbing according to the flow of the game. That's scripted.


Thank you man, appreciate the support there!

As for subs, yes! The EA gameplay had the players' develop a 'tire' over a period of time that really stood out between 60/70 mins into the game. However, X-R uses a more 'harsh' speed penalty value that means if you run around like a mad-man, or if the cpu does so also, it'll make subs at different times, although the 1st half isn't really an option (any professional player that has to come off in the 1st half from being tired shouldn't be on that pitch playing!!), so it's more random now. :)

The shooting mechanic is also harder now to add to the learning curve. I hope you guys remember that it can be done and you can score! just takes time getting used to it. With the new system, you'll probably hit shots over the crossbar and get angry and 'maybe' even come on the forum and explain to me that it is too difficult. If this is the case I can only tell you one thing....LEARNING CURVE! Keep doing it and you'll pop them away sooner or later. But it's unpredictable (more like PES) so you can never guarantee yourself or the CPU a goal. I think THAT'S entertainment, nothing worse than predictable football.

NK.
 

apollox

Reserve Team
The Patch is very good, but the shooting is sometimes very unreal. For example the player stand very free at the penality point and you press the shotting button light that the crossbar is only for 1/5 full. And the Ball fly 10m over the goal. That is really unrealistic i find. And i play only withe your Gameplay Patch without the Hardcore Striker Update.
That point you must fix please
 

walpurgisng

Youth Team
It depends if you are holding the sprint button, the chip button, or the finesse button as it makes the ball move differently. Body position and reaction to the ball has alot to do with how the ball responds.
 

apollox

Reserve Team
I don´t hold any button but the Shoot Button and the Control Buttons, more Buttons i don´t hold
And Thiery Henry is a very good Shooter
 

walpurgisng

Youth Team
xrbeta01final test:
Do NOT change the lob pass, through pass, or shooting settings, player speed, fatigue, or movement/reaction time.
Human goalie on any settings.
Do change:
give pass speed (that is regular passing) a slight nudge, not a lot, just a nudge up
On world class, I played Iran with England, and I won 3-2, but I wasnt playing hard and neither were they.
World class isnt too easy any more but it isnt challenging.
Give the CPU aggression for shooting and defense a good bump up, not to extreme but to make it difficult.

I suggest u stop altering shooting and what I suggested above as I think its fine and life like.
 

NK FOOTBALL ©

Senior Squad
walpurgisng;2298169 said:
xrbeta01final test:
Do NOT change the lob pass, through pass, or shooting settings, player speed, fatigue, or movement/reaction time.
Human goalie on any settings.
Do change:
give pass speed (that is regular passing) a slight nudge, not a lot, just a nudge up
On world class, I played Iran with England, and I won 3-2, but I wasnt playing hard and neither were they.
World class isnt too easy any more but it isnt challenging.
Give the CPU aggression for shooting and defense a good bump up, not to extreme but to make it difficult.

I suggest u stop altering shooting and what I suggested above as I think its fine and life like.

You played Iran with England :) Try playing as England against Italy or Argentina.

Or try playing as Italy Vs Spain :jap:

NK.
 

walpurgisng

Youth Team
No, the reason I played Iran with England is because I played them before with your other two version of the build--lets me know what was changed. I dont care that good teams play very hard, I want all teams to be a challenge. On the other two builds, Iran was a push over and boring, on the latest build they were a challenge but not difficult as I suggested. All teams on World Class should be challenging and not just there and so so, but the good teams, like Italy and Argentina should be damn near impossible to beat. Try changing the suggestions for difficulty on World Class as I suggested and I will bet you will get positive responses about a good and exciting challenge. Your so close to making World Class like your playing a human player, why ignore my suggestions now when I helped you along for almost this whole process?

You should not be analyzing play via trying it against multiple teams, play one team for each build over n over and then you will easily know what and how the challenge and play changed. Play Iran and Iran and Iran and Iran. Then when you finally think you have it, try Italy and then Italy, (build changes) and Italy and Italy. When I test im not just trying to win, im trying different shot angles, distances, passes, defenses, and movements to see if I like whats being done or if it changed for the better.
 
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elhelmiey

Guest
walpurgisng;2298193 said:
No, the reason I played Iran with England is because I played them before with your other two version of the build--lets me know what was changed. I dont care that good teams play very hard, I want all teams to be a challenge. On the other two builds, Iran was a push over and boring, on the latest build they were a challenge but not difficult as I suggested. All teams on World Class should be challenging and not just there and so so, but the good teams, like Italy and Argentina should be damn near impossible to beat. Try changing the suggestions for difficulty on World Class as I suggested and I will bet you will get positive responses about a good and exciting challenge. Your so close to making World Class like your playing a human player, why ignore my suggestions now when I helped you along for almost this whole process?

You should not be analyzing play via trying it against multiple teams, play one team for each build over n over and then you will easily know what and how the challenge and play changed. Play Iran and Iran and Iran and Iran. Then when you finally think you have it, try Italy and then Italy, (build changes) and Italy and Italy. When I test im not just trying to win, im trying different shot angles, distances, passes, defenses, and movements to see if I like whats being done or if it changed for the better.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdSIK6QJcbk :chew:
 

NK FOOTBALL ©

Senior Squad
walpurgisng;2298193 said:
No, the reason I played Iran with England is because I played them before with your other two version of the build--lets me know what was changed. I dont care that good teams play very hard, I want all teams to be a challenge. On the other two builds, Iran was a push over and boring, on the latest build they were a challenge but not difficult as I suggested. All teams on World Class should be challenging and not just there and so so, but the good teams, like Italy and Argentina should be damn near impossible to beat. Try changing the suggestions for difficulty on World Class as I suggested and I will bet you will get positive responses about a good and exciting challenge. Your so close to making World Class like your playing a human player, why ignore my suggestions now when I helped you along for almost this whole process?

You should not be analyzing play via trying it against multiple teams, play one team for each build over n over and then you will easily know what and how the challenge and play changed. Play Iran and Iran and Iran and Iran. Then when you finally think you have it, try Italy and then Italy, (build changes) and Italy and Italy. When I test im not just trying to win, im trying different shot angles, distances, passes, defenses, and movements to see if I like whats being done or if it changed for the better.

Done and done :) I have made the changes you suggested in your feedback.

World Class and other modes should be harder now mate.
NK.
 

Tizmo

Senior Squad
Well, thank you so much for this final release of X-R NK! This is by far the best! I will right a short review of it.

I love the ball physics! They have been improved from X-PRO. The CPU attacked more and was stronger. I really had to be careful when passing. One small mistake in the pass, and the CPU would get it. Very realistic! The defense is also improved. It was really breaking through the defense. The passes must be well timed and careful to get a good chance at the goal. Flanking is also tuned, no more easy flank-header goals! You really have to jostle for the ball and the flank must be very precise. I had a couple of chances, but most of them went over the net! In my first match, the keepers did not make any spectacular saves, but one thing I can say, they have been improved once again!

Last night, I was playing FC Barcelona vs. Real Madrid CF. It was a really tough match. No goals were scored in the first half. The ball spent most of the time in midfield. Like the commentator said, it was pretty poor how both teams played. But then came the second half...

At about the 49th, I got fouled and was rewarded a free kick. Ronaldinho took it, lobbed it to Eto'o who just had to turn around and shoot, but unfortunately, the first shot did not go in because the keeper made a nice save, but then Eto'o got the ball of the rebound and made it from the line, barely making the goal, but I still got it. So, now it was 1-0 for me! For the rest of the second period, the ball spent most of the time in midfield, but some chances for both teams. Some of the shots totally went over the net, which happens a LOT in real football. At the 81st minute, the game is almost over and I am thinking that I will win this match, but then Real Madrid gets the ball and flanks it straight to van Nistelrooy who was running to the goal, and he scored off the header, making it impossible for Valdés to save! So, now it was 1-1 with about 10 minutes left in the game. Nobody really had any more chances for the rest of the match. Then came over-time and not much happened here either, so the game went into penalties, which I unfortunately lost 4-5!!

This was one of the toughest matches I have ever played, and I must say, with this update, this was sooooooo much fun! Thank you so much for your hard work and time NK! I really appreciate and I am sure the rest of you will love this version!

X-R is truly the best update that you have made and I am sure, like I said before, that others will LOVE this!
 

Ash_Clarke

Youth Team
How different are the direction attributes for shooting in X pro compared to the new XR?

I am asking this, because the shooting is heavily flawed in x-pro. It is not realistic at all and spoils the game. Sorry if it sounds harsh but it's just my two cents and I know how great the update would be if one-on-one with the keeper does not mean the ball flies into the stands when you aim the shot the direction you are facing.
 

Tizmo

Senior Squad
Well, if you are at a one-on-one situation, you must get the correct amount of power into the shot. If it is too much, then it will go over. I don't think the shooting is bad at all in this version. Most of times when trying to shoot directly from a cross, the ball will go over the net into the stands. But, like I said, you must get the correct amount of power, and then your shots will be nice.
 

NK FOOTBALL ©

Senior Squad
Nk Football © Fifa™ X-r

NK FOOTBALL © FIFA™ X-R - Now Public!!

Check out the latest news over at NK FOOTBALL © for the link to FIFA™ X-R!

COMPATIBLE WITH BOTH FIFA 07™ & UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE™ 06-07

Enjoy guys, it's not 'officially' updated on the Downloads page, but the link was sent out a while ago, so you guys have waited long enough.

Once the link is available on the main Downloads page of my site, the news link will go down.

Thanks,
NK.
 

jackbauer

Youth Team
Hey Tiz,

How are the fouls in this version? I thought that they were great X-PRO. Also, does the CPU still sub between 60-70 minutes?

NK,

Looking forward to the update. Keep up the good work!
 

jackbauer

Youth Team
NK FOOTBALL ©;2298617 said:
NK FOOTBALL © FIFA™ X-R - Now Public!!

Check out the latest news over at NK FOOTBALL © for the link to FIFA™ X-R!

COMPATIBLE WITH BOTH FIFA 07™ & UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE™ 06-07

Enjoy guys, it's not 'officially' updated on the Downloads page, but the link was sent out a while ago, so you guys have waited long enough.

Once the link is available on the main Downloads page of my site, the news link will go down.

Thanks,
NK.

YESSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now if I could just get the heck out of the office!
 

Tizmo

Senior Squad
The fouls were realistic, pretty much like in X-PRO. In the match that I played today, the CPU did not sub at all. I can't remember from last night's match.
 

jackbauer

Youth Team
Tizmo;2298624 said:
The fouls were realistic, pretty much like in X-PRO. In the match that I played today, the CPU did not sub at all. I can't remember from last night's match.

Are you finding that the defense is also better from your CPU teammates?
 


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