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NK FOOTBALL ©

Senior Squad
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Hey guys,

Here's a quick beta-test video showing the ball physics in the latest update. It's doesn't show much. You'll see the new passing physics and the skill moves along with faster more dangerous shots on goal from the star players'.

One area that's receiving more special treatment is the rainbow trick. This should be quicker now and look more natural.

You'll be playing the new update this week! More news tomorrow.

http://files.filefront.com/betatest_3.1.wmv/;7762433;/fileinfo.html

video may not show right away and I may need to edit url. May have made a mistake! :p

NK.
 

pfk505

Youth Team
that happened to me too when trying to embed youtube.. used the proper tags and everything but it didnt load. ended up just posting the link :)

lookin forward to it NK, though WE3 is just awesome
 

joflizn

Club Supporter
Hi NK,

Your GP is really good! I decided to play a complete season with a 2,5 stars rated club and it's wonderfull :bob:! I'm struggling to death trying to win a game. It's really difficult and that's what I was looking for. I really like the way CPU attacks and defends. BTW, here some requests:
- give the ball a little "weight", the ball seems to bounce too high
- in freekicks, the ball goes too high too often (maybe it's linked with ball physics too?)
- shooting is difficult and that's good but it seems to be a little too much (especially when you play with a keyboard). It took me some time to get used to these shots in front of the box that go to the throw-line. I don't know if you get what I mean. But I hope to see the enhancements in your next update!

Cheers,

PS: Keep the good work on making fifa07 a "realistic" but not a "reality" game. I mean, if I want to play soccer game like Figo does, I'd take my fevernova out and call my buddies for a late night game in our downtown yard. Fifa07 is only a game, but becomes a really good one since your GP.
Masterpiece man, masterpiece!
 

Bennbfc

Club Supporter
How do you know when you hvae installed it properley. Also the installer says locate your main fifa 07 folder is that the default fifa 07 folder or the folder called main inside data?
 

NK FOOTBALL ©

Senior Squad
Bennbfc;2342511 said:
How do you know when you hvae installed it properley. Also the installer says locate your main fifa 07 folder is that the default fifa 07 folder or the folder called main inside data?


You silly boy! The main FIFA 07 folder is just that. It's the main folder. Since when has the data folder being the main directory?

hehe, now go sit in the corner.

Just kiddin bro, hope it works well.
NK.
 

NK FOOTBALL ©

Senior Squad
One area of play in WE3 that you might have felt was lacking was the skill moves. They were sluggish and I had under-developed the speeds and timing of player skills to really stand out. However, this is now fixed.

For example, pit yourself up against the Brazil national team and more often then not, the skill moves the cpu executes will most likely confuse your defender and have him stumble or be 'dazed' by the players' ability.

On the other hand this is balanced and works both ways, so you too can now diddle the computer with more flare. But don't worry you won't beat every defender and I'm tuning it up so that the delay's are much more natural, so beating 2 defenders won't see you be 1v1 with the goalkeeper every match. But it's possible, like in real games.

This is closer to the real thing then ever before, the skill moves feel more dangerous now, especially if the cpu team has skilful players'.

NK.
 
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elhelmiey

Guest
yes! that is really great n amazing gp pal! the pass_speed is faster now... but what most surprising me is the ball has more weight n looks so realistic so natural bouncing on the grass! congratulation! really cant wait for ur gp to be released :)
 

Y0DaddyAlex

Youth Team
any chance of upping the power on the goalie kicks? goalies can kick it basically to the other teams box sometimes, and this never happens in the game. it seems like your goalie can barely get it past halfway
 

nickclubman

Starting XI
Y0DaddyAlex;2342891 said:
any chance of upping the power on the goalie kicks? goalies can kick it basically to the other teams box sometimes, and this never happens in the game. it seems like your goalie can barely get it past halfway

Ok, fixed! :)

Thanks for the feedback, the improved GK-kicks are now in there.

There is a slight chance the update will be held back...

For World Evolution 4 The reason for this is because I have just discovered a way of keeping the defence back and tight, yet have the cpu pressure you much quicker in midfield. It makes breaking the defence even harder. I just had an 8 minute game and had 2 shots, 1 on target! Cpu had 17 shots, 4 on and I lost 2-0. Was a great game full of drama.

NK.
 

Comma

Youth Team
nickclubman;2342912 said:
I just had an 8 minute game and had 2 shots, 1 on target! Cpu had 17 shots, 4 on and I lost 2-0. Was a great game full of drama.NK.

Now, I know this update was originally started as a 'realism' update, but if you are only getting 2 shots to the cpu's 17, then that isnt very realistic. At some point you are just going to have to stop 'modding' the gameplay and start 'tuning' it. I personally thought that we1 was and is the best gameplay you've made so far. Just tune it so the cpu has more attacks, then it will be perfect. Ive played games with it and won or last 1-0 against chelsea or arsenal with manutd. And ive won games by a blow out against lower teams and sometimes even higher ranked teams. there is only so much 'realism' the game will allow. You know as soon as you start having the back 4 stay back and the midfield push then you will run into a whole other set of problems after the update is released. People complaining, for example, about too much time in the midfield, or they cant get the ball to their strikers because the cpus midfielders are in the faces of the their own back 4 too soon. Something stupid.

Anyway, this is just my opinion. I really appreciate any and all updates you do for the game. Thank you, sincerely.

Cheers
,
 

bruno167

Senior Squad
For World Evolution 4 The reason for this is because I have just discovered a way of keeping the defence back and tight, yet have the cpu pressure you much quicker in midfield. It makes breaking the defence even harder. I just had an 8 minute game and had 2 shots, 1 on target! Cpu had 17 shots, 4 on and I lost 2-0. Was a great game full of drama.

I think your gameplay is hard enough at least for me. I think you must need to foucs more on realism and less in dificulty.

One thing i noticed in your last gameplay is that is almost the same playing against a 5 star team and against 1 star team.

I think the game with bigger teams should be very very hard, they should press you a lot and attack much but against smaller 2nd division teams you should be able to get a win without many problems. The bigger team should have much more possession and create more chances. This doesn´t means that the smaller eam have to loose every game against the bigger team. Sometimes it should be a surprising result.
With this i don´t mean that the game should be very easy against small teams but you should have a better chance of winning against a small team than a big team.

I don´t know if this is possible but i think it would the game more realisitc.

Do you think a 3rd division team can press and defend very hard against a team like Chelsea, MU or Barcelona?

Of course i don´t want to go to a game against a 3rd division knowing that i will will by 3 or 4 goals. I want to have some troubles sometimes to score but i should dominate the game.
 

gru

Club Supporter
NK, what are your plans for the gameplay difficulty?

Hi Nick,

Thanks for the great patches!

What are your plans in terms of gameplay difficulty?

As I see most people are quite happy with it in WE1/WE3.
However, personally, I don't feel challenged at all.

WE3 is clearly much better than X-R in many aspects except for the gameplay difficulty. So I still sit on X-R version at the moment which I think is the most playable at the moment. Otherwise its all too easy. Defences are easy to break and CPU doesn't press hard enough on world class.

So I was actually very glad to see your comment about the next update that you were "getting 2 shots to the cpu's 17".

Cheers,
 

pfk505

Youth Team
Im glad too. Im finding WE3 almost right but still a wee bit too easy. Some games end up quite even, but others I blow them out.
 

nickclubman

Starting XI
pfk505;2343312 said:
Im glad too. Im finding WE3 almost right but still a wee bit too easy. Some games end up quite even, but others I blow them out.

I'm really trying to combat this issue of difficulty and realism. The two are almost different ends of the spectrum. The idea is to get it right to the point where you have a realistic, challenging and entertaining video-game experience representing the simulation and fun side of the sport football. However, it's easier said (well, written) then done!

So far I have done the following;

-Completely re-done tuned the spacing and pressure of players'
-Delays on skill factors and marking ability re-vamped and believable
-Improved the shot mechanic
-Tuned the ball physics for far more realistic passing and bounce
-Increased the cpu speeds for defending and pressuring
-Increase risk of push foul to stop so much harsh contact and keep the play tight
-Added a bit more speed to passes
-Increased the cpu ability to intercept passes
-And a whole lot more!!

It's come down to the point now where it's test, test, test, test. You know, trial and error. Keep trying out what's working, what's not and keeping in what works and tuning what doesn't and then trying to improve on what works to give a solid performance.

WE3 runs the best I've got it for the alternate gameplay created. The new update will play different. More realistic. I want to get the realism in there so that even if you score what some may consider an 'easy' goal, at least it looked natural and believable with the teams playing! If you believe in the goal, then the illusion remains. If the goal is scored and you think 'idiot cpu', then it's pretty much mission failed!

I'll release a vid soon of some gameplay action. The cpu keeps changing, so nothing can reflect the final product for sure. but it's getting closer and the update is going to take longer to get out to you guys. I will NOT do World Evolution 2 again! that's for sure.

Thanks,
NK.
 

GRG2K7

Club Supporter
Sounds great NK, very much looking forward to the update. Your gameplay takes Fifa 07 to another level and I appreciate the effort you put into each new patch, thank you.
 

NK FOOTBALL ©

Senior Squad
GRG2K7;2343479 said:
Sounds great NK, very much looking forward to the update. Your gameplay takes Fifa 07 to another level and I appreciate the effort you put into each new patch, thank you.

Thanks bro, appreciate it.

I'll release some gameplay footage later today so you can see it all in action.

NK.
 


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