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No weather at all in FIFA this year (news from FIFA Community).
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brumbies00
Youth Team
dynamic weather means that the weather changes during the progress of the match. fixed weather means that it stays the same for the entire match.
so does that mean fixed weather is in the game? i read it to mean that weather had been taken out all togeather. i've been waiting clarification from matt.
so does that mean fixed weather is in the game? i read it to mean that weather had been taken out all togeather. i've been waiting clarification from matt.
juanmanuelsanchez
Youth Team
can we hope a patch or something to change this situation ?
nickclubman
Starting XI
To all those that think no weather is ok.
No!
One of my the main things I wanted in FIFA 2004 was great gameplay, I kept making hints and saying how important it was to have great gameplay. Some people ask for more player faces, or a new league, or stadium.
What we shouldn’t have to ask for it for them to include weather, it should be in the game for sure, if you buy a football game, you get weather effects, who’s going to say to EA: “Make sure you include weather”. It’s something you expect in any shape or form and this year we were going to get the most realistic weather in any football game ever, which would’ve been fantastic.
Weather is something you expect, it’s something that HAS to come with a FOOTBALL game, if some of you cannot understand why it’s like this then I question your knowledge of the sport!
Football is a game you can play in all different kinds of conditions, sun, rain, snow, and that is why you expect it to be there.
If it’s not there, it’s not a complete football game, it’s unfinished…and if some people cannot see this, then it’s really sad, either that or you’re blinding yourselves.
Nick.
No!
One of my the main things I wanted in FIFA 2004 was great gameplay, I kept making hints and saying how important it was to have great gameplay. Some people ask for more player faces, or a new league, or stadium.
What we shouldn’t have to ask for it for them to include weather, it should be in the game for sure, if you buy a football game, you get weather effects, who’s going to say to EA: “Make sure you include weather”. It’s something you expect in any shape or form and this year we were going to get the most realistic weather in any football game ever, which would’ve been fantastic.
Weather is something you expect, it’s something that HAS to come with a FOOTBALL game, if some of you cannot understand why it’s like this then I question your knowledge of the sport!
Football is a game you can play in all different kinds of conditions, sun, rain, snow, and that is why you expect it to be there.
If it’s not there, it’s not a complete football game, it’s unfinished…and if some people cannot see this, then it’s really sad, either that or you’re blinding yourselves.
Nick.
brumbies00
Youth Team
well as i said on the communtiy website if they release a patch then as a console player i want my money back. especially here where i pay $30 more than they do for pc. a patch is not good enough, it means the game is incomplete and i will ask ea for my money back or an update version(for free) for my ps2
Goo Goo boy
Senior Squad
do you really think the team who makes the rosters and the grafics is the same one who makes the gameplay? licenses have nothing to do with the bad gameplay fifa has to offer...making the kits, faces and rosters doesnt interfer with the time to make the gameplay mate....
Valiso,
People are frustrated with EA.... why???
They get you hyped up with all these cool features then later on, they take 'em away.
You bring in the complication issue regarding game development and programming. People's frustion grew on EA's over/false advertisment EACH year. Here is EA again with no whether effects, and I belive, no off-ball feature. We are customers, we just have every right to complain. Buisness is reputation, and EA is not very good with it, defending them by trying to sympathize how hard it is to live up to their promises, is NOT our job as a customer. We all paid, on average in this forum, a couple hundred bucks. (I bought everything from '97 to '03) Again w. our friendly contender WE/PES, they don't get people hyped with features they are not able to accomplish. Here's the picture, one company does a fairly good job with keeping their promises, while another is well known for breaking it. I'd be focking bashing the later company. Why should I care if it is hard for 'em to included features they promised??? The other company does their job anyway. It's inevitable the mass tend to praise one company and bash the other. All we need to see is the products w. 50 or so bucks in our pocket... you know where the mony goes to. Heck w. whether it was hard to program or include something that was promised... it's their problem.
Is pes/we over hyped?
I believe the only KCET game you've played is WE6:I. This, IMO, was the worst in the series. I felt the exact same kind of relief going back to WE6 from WE6:I, as if I played FIFA2003 and went back to WE6:I. I've got a handful of friends who converted? from FIFA to WE. They all just LOVE the game. Be honest FIFA2003 is cr@p compared to WE6, thats if you ever played it.
Point is, we're the customer. It's the company's job to satisfy us. Defending on company for not doing their job is POINTLESS. Think I don't know about programing?... heck its my major.
Though I do agree, deciding not to buy the game at this point is pointless as well. I'd forgive EA for leaving a couple of features out, as long as they got the basics right, for a change. There ain't no bias or over praising one game over the other. It's all natural customer psychology.
People are frustrated with EA.... why???
They get you hyped up with all these cool features then later on, they take 'em away.
You bring in the complication issue regarding game development and programming. People's frustion grew on EA's over/false advertisment EACH year. Here is EA again with no whether effects, and I belive, no off-ball feature. We are customers, we just have every right to complain. Buisness is reputation, and EA is not very good with it, defending them by trying to sympathize how hard it is to live up to their promises, is NOT our job as a customer. We all paid, on average in this forum, a couple hundred bucks. (I bought everything from '97 to '03) Again w. our friendly contender WE/PES, they don't get people hyped with features they are not able to accomplish. Here's the picture, one company does a fairly good job with keeping their promises, while another is well known for breaking it. I'd be focking bashing the later company. Why should I care if it is hard for 'em to included features they promised??? The other company does their job anyway. It's inevitable the mass tend to praise one company and bash the other. All we need to see is the products w. 50 or so bucks in our pocket... you know where the mony goes to. Heck w. whether it was hard to program or include something that was promised... it's their problem.
Is pes/we over hyped?
I believe the only KCET game you've played is WE6:I. This, IMO, was the worst in the series. I felt the exact same kind of relief going back to WE6 from WE6:I, as if I played FIFA2003 and went back to WE6:I. I've got a handful of friends who converted? from FIFA to WE. They all just LOVE the game. Be honest FIFA2003 is cr@p compared to WE6, thats if you ever played it.
Point is, we're the customer. It's the company's job to satisfy us. Defending on company for not doing their job is POINTLESS. Think I don't know about programing?... heck its my major.
Though I do agree, deciding not to buy the game at this point is pointless as well. I'd forgive EA for leaving a couple of features out, as long as they got the basics right, for a change. There ain't no bias or over praising one game over the other. It's all natural customer psychology.
Mauro DeLa Vega
Youth Team
It's just weather. As long as the football is good I don't care if it rains or not.
Some of you guys are really tearing stuff out of perspective.
Some of you guys are really tearing stuff out of perspective.
nickclubman
Starting XI
Well, I don't know about you, but I'll get bored knowing every match I play is sunny. VERY bored indeed.
Mauro DeLa Vega
Youth Team
You have a couple of good points but I disagree with some other points.
You say we are customers, so we have every right to complain.
IMO this is only when you've already bought a product under false promises from the manufacturers.
Otherwise, if you don't like it, don't buy it and stop whining. When enough people do so, they'll see they have a bad product.
And while it's a good thing when a company satisfies it's customers, you can't demand anything when you haven't bought the product yet.
The problem apparently lies in the fact that enough people still keep on buying FIFA games. I bet 80% at least of the people who complain their ass of on these forums own at least a couple of recent FIFA games. This is pretty contradictory IMO, complaining on these forums is never going to do EA any harm, yet buying their products is supporting them.
Originally posted by nickclubman
Well, I don't know about you, but I'll get bored knowing every match I play is sunny. VERY bored indeed.
I quickly got bored with previous versions of FIFA which did have weather too so...
And I'm still not completely convinced EA took (non-dynamic, non-selectable) rain out all together. But If the game's good you won't miss it if it isn't.
first of all.. there will be off the ball... now to everything else.. you say the customers have the right to complain.. yes.. they have the right to complain about a product.. I have not defended fifa 2004 because I havent played it and I have not defended fifa 2003 in fact I bashed quite often.
Now.. people ask for every little single detail, and I am just giving a different point of view.. which is true.. games take as long to make as they did on the sega genesis years.. but we expect so much more from them.. anyway.. moving on from the programming stuff.. since I didnt say you didnt know anything.. I speak in general... and if you read the forums in general you can get an idea that 90% of the people that post here have no clue what it takes to program something.. and that sometimes somethings just cant be done no matter what you want.
about PES.. well.. I played the first one on the n64, i played iss pro on the psx, I played winning eleven 4, winning eleven 5 and winning eleven 6:International... and yes I do think they are over rated.. I never said fifa was better than WE, and in all my posts I have plenty of times said that I do think WE is the better game right now, but is still over rated.. I dont think is that impressive as some people seem to think and it also has plenty of flaws, even if most konami fanboys dont want to see them, the same way fifa fanboys dont want to see the flaws in fifa games.
if fifa 2004 sucks I will bash it, but I am tired of reading complety idiotic posts about how the fifa team doesnt care, or they dont work hard, and aparently how easy is on people's minds to make a football game.. which imo, is one of the most complicated sports games to make because of the non-stop nature of the game and the different little gameplay things that happen on the field.
I havent said I dont want weather in the game, I already expressed my dissapointment with it, that said I can live without it if the gameplay and career mode pay off.
I will play the demo and go for there, I am not going to write the game off until I am able to play it.
nickclubman
Starting XI
Valioso, games actually take longer and longer to make due to the increase in technology. For example games on the PS3 will take longer to make then PS2 if the developers want people to blow the consumers away graphically.
So in that respect you're right mate, not everyone can have what they want, it's just that if you buy a football game, sure you might not have the stadium you wanted, or a certain player might be missing, or not have a specific face, but weather man, weather is something you expect 100%, so not to have it is like the Twilight Zone of all Football games, lol.
Nick.
So in that respect you're right mate, not everyone can have what they want, it's just that if you buy a football game, sure you might not have the stadium you wanted, or a certain player might be missing, or not have a specific face, but weather man, weather is something you expect 100%, so not to have it is like the Twilight Zone of all Football games, lol.
Nick.
Ill said quickly. I think that if the Konami Crew could do his job on time, and still do a great job, why the EA team cant?. That is what concerns me.
But i have to agree with valioso in the point that, the "no weather" thing is not the ned of the world. All this years i played the soccer games on sunny days, all the games sunny. I personally, hate the rainy days in the real life to play soccer.
Ok, the dynamic wetaher feature would of course be a super increase in the FIFA series, but if the gameplay basicallym and the career mode are outstanding, ill easy forget about the rest.
When i played WE, i didnt cared about the weather anyways, but about the excellent gameplay. And if i have played all this years the games witouth a good dynamic weather, i can wait one more year.
But i have to agree with valioso in the point that, the "no weather" thing is not the ned of the world. All this years i played the soccer games on sunny days, all the games sunny. I personally, hate the rainy days in the real life to play soccer.
Ok, the dynamic wetaher feature would of course be a super increase in the FIFA series, but if the gameplay basicallym and the career mode are outstanding, ill easy forget about the rest.
When i played WE, i didnt cared about the weather anyways, but about the excellent gameplay. And if i have played all this years the games witouth a good dynamic weather, i can wait one more year.
Maybe because Konami sports division only need to handle one simple title so they can concentrate more on that. While EA Sports got too many titles to handle in a year from racing to fighting sports such as KOK.
( Wait a minute, I`m defending EA ??? What the **** happened to this world ???!!!!
)Mauro DeLa Vega
Youth Team
Something as weather effects could be especially time-consuming to code since all consoles have different GPU's with different shaders and routines.
The point is, we don't know exactly how much time everything costs to develop. I don't like the decision of taking stuff out that was supposed to be in the game but I can imagine why EA made the decision and you can whine all day about it or just take it as it is.
The point is, we don't know exactly how much time everything costs to develop. I don't like the decision of taking stuff out that was supposed to be in the game but I can imagine why EA made the decision and you can whine all day about it or just take it as it is.
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Ny8La8
Guest
Why fix something that's not broken? True, WE may have "little bugs", but not as obvious and horrendous as FIFA's.
i agree and as for the konami having only 1 sport game and EA have lots that is just dum Ea problaby has more guys working on there company that microsoft on there windows.
AND THE SOLUTION FOR THE WEATHER PROBLEM IS CLEAR AS WATER......DELAY THE GAME SO THAT WE DON´T BUY A IMCOMPLETE GAME.(but ea dosen´t do that becouse they don´t want to lose there money to pes3 for pc)
AND THE SOLUTION FOR THE WEATHER PROBLEM IS CLEAR AS WATER......DELAY THE GAME SO THAT WE DON´T BUY A IMCOMPLETE GAME.(but ea dosen´t do that becouse they don´t want to lose there money to pes3 for pc)
nickclubman
Starting XI
ok, I think I over reacted. If the game is brilliant, I'll probably get it. 