OFFICIAL: Robinho to Real Madrid

[Kibe Kru]

I don't think Robinho will get his share... it was stated before that he'd only get 40% if his sale was an agreement between the two clubs... as it is, Santos haven't made a deal with Madrid, they just have to sell him because of his release clause...
to my understanding, that means Santos will keep the 50M Madrid are now willing to pay...

as I said before... overpriced... and with no guarantee of recovering that money later if he decides to go...

 

[MikeyM]

Article from Teamtalk.com


CBF block Rob's Real switch


The Brazilian Football Confederation (CBF) have refused to sanction Robinho's move to Real Madrid for US $30m dollars.

CBF legal director Carlos Eugenio Lopes confirmed that Santos are entitled to US $50m dollars - the sum in the release clause of Robinho's contract.

Lopes said: "That is the amount Santos have the right to receive if Robinho wants to leave the club now."

And he added that because Robinho is negotiating the end of his contract in advance, the striker is not entitled to receive his 40% cut in the release clause.

The three parties - Robinho, Santos and Real Madrid - must reach a common agreement before the CBF will sanction the deal

Santos do not want to sell Robinho so Real Madrid have two options - pay the US $50m dollars demanded by Santos or wait until 2008, when the Brazilian international's contract with Santos ends.

Lopes explained that the CBF will not send the necessary papers to guarantee the transfer to Spain even though Real Madrid handed over a bank guarantee for US $30m dollars on Thursday.

The deposit was turned down by the CBF.

If Robinho joins Real Madrid now without the agreement of Santos, he could be banned for up to six months by Fifa and could compromise his participation in next year's World Cup.



Mike

 

[FF7]

As I said before Robinho is great and may become of the best players in the world, but paying 50 million euros for him is too much... he's not worth even the half

 

[santino]

The legal process is not over yet. The CBF may have sided with Santos but Madrid are prepared to take it to the next level, FIFA.

This passage in the contract says that Robinho can make his buyout clause effective with a payment of $50M, but immediately afterwards states that 60% should stay with the club while 40% should go to the player. If this is, in fact, in the contract then it would override the current assumption that the player has no financial entitlement if his clause is met. Secondly,

Krieger agreed that Madrid were wrong to place the deposit with the CBF, but should have made it with Santos itself, according to a 2004 resolution. However, he believes FIFA will permit Robinho to end up in Madrid because they would suport his right to work.

so roma "unlawfully" buy a player and get a 1 year transfer ban.

real madrid try it and FIFA's supporting them

FIFA deserves a big round of applause for this

 

[claupastore]

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[WilliamFAlmeida]

Ronaldo, Ronaldinho. R Carlos all believe he will be the best player in the world in a couple of years time....I take their word for it, and think he'll become a legend in whatever european team he plays for.

 

[Hendrik]

Of course you do.

 

[INFESTA]

Ronaldo, Ronaldinho. R Carlos all believe he will be the best player in the world in a couple of years time....I take their word for it, and think he'll become a legend in whatever european team he plays for.

Eh, funny. Ronaldo himself was already a legend at the age of 16. He was without a doubt the best player of the world at the age of 19, playing for one of Europe's giants.
How old is Robinho? 21? I'll let you connect the dots.

 

[faceNside]

Eh, funny. Ronaldo himself was already a legend at the age of 16. He was without a doubt the best player of the world at the age of 19, playing for one of Europe's giants.
How old is Robinho? 21? I'll let you connect the dots.

How old was Alfredo Di Stefano when he came to Europe, joining Madrid?




























27

 

[Callum]

Of course you do.

duh every brazilian player, or real madrid player is a legend :boohoo:

 

[INFESTA]

How old was Alfredo Di Stefano when he came to Europe, joining Madrid?





27

Psst, that was FIFTY years ago. Football and a footballers life span had nothing to do with what they are now.

Besides, since you're such a connoisseur of Real's and Di Stefano's history, you'll know he was already a consensual world famous footballer - the best in South America - before joining the Madrid giants, .
Now roll your eyes.

 

[Paulo Da Silva]

there is no way in hell that Fifa or any other legal system will take Real sides. FaceNside Di stefano was a world class player already, like Infesta said the best in South America. Robinho isn't the best in South America.

some of you Real fans think the world revolves around REAL. Teixeira has the contrct with robinho. Roninho was stupid enuff to sign a contract with a 50 million dollar release clause. Teixeira is right and Real And Robinho are wrong and if Fifa gets involved they will both get seriously punished. It' so retarded that some (datboy) even think that FIFA will take Real's side

get over it Robinho is not worth 50 million , he's not even worth 15 million. Damn Diego was seen as a bigger talent and even Kaka was as well and both Porto and Milan got them less than 10 million. HAHA.

 

[faceNside]

Infesta, youre defending that if a player hadnt explode with 21 years, he cant possibly be a crack in the future. At least this is what i understood. But there are many cases of players that show their best face past 25 (ex. Deco, Carvalho, Lampard...), on their matureness.

BTW Robinho has been declared last year best player of Brazil, with an average of 20+ goals per seasson. So the fact that is a minor player is debatable.

 

[FF7]

Psst, that was FIFTY years ago. Football and a footballers life span had nothing to do with what they are now.

Besides, since you're such a connoisseur of Real's and Di Stefano's history, you'll know he was already a consensual world famous footballer - the best in South America - before joining the Madrid giants, .
Now roll your eyes.

hmm well Robinho is one of the best players in South America and is world famous...
your point....?

 

[Virgo]

this argument is useless now, save it for the end of his first season in Europe.

I agree for someone with such hype Robinho hasn't been impressive at all.

Brazilian players especially dribblers are always a big question mark.

Pele himself said Diego might be better than him someday... look at his average season in Porto. I won't even speak about that poor excuse for a striker called Luis Fabiano.

Roger is another example. These guys forget that in Europe the whole team defends when they don't have the ball.

Kaka adapted really well to european football because his football is simple. He doesn't rely on dribbles to be effective, he's a great passer and shooter.

 

[INFESTA]

Infesta, youre defending that if a player hadnt explode with 21 years, he cant possibly be a crack in the future. At least this is what i understood. But there are many cases of players that show their best face past 25 (ex. Deco, Carvalho, Lampard...), on their matureness.

No, not that. I'm defending that if a player like Robinho - who relies on speed and a few tricks - didn't evolve noticeably to something better in the past 3 years he won't explode when he's past 25.

I want to see him do well after all defenders in La Liga know his scissors move; I want to see him do well when he's defended actively like we do here in europe - not just staring at him waiting for a move, like it's common in Brazil; I want to see Robinho excel when they put 2 bodies on him, like defenses do on Joaquim and Figo...

hmm well Robinho is one of the best players in South America and is world famous...
your point....?

He's not even one of the best 5 players from Brazil; he is world famous for his 78651 scissors on the Brasileirão final and especially for Real Madrid wanting him!
If you don't understand what we're arguing about that's not my problem, mate.

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Virgo, here's what will happen after his first game for Real: he'll be overhyped, even if he doesn't do anything that good. All his moves will be replayed many times on televisions throughout the world. That's what happened when Ronaldo, Zizou, Becks, Figo had their first games for Real Madrid.
But the Madrilenos aren't known for their patience, so either the kid is consistently good or he'll start feeling the pressure on his shoulders. And that's when things will get interesting, imho.

I tell you one thing, though: Robinho is smart. Real is the ideal club for forwards who don't want to defend.

 

[Vedran-10]

I know!

Barca should buy Robinho now, when Madrid are done humiliating themselves. I'm sure we could reach an agreement with Teixeira, as he seems to be a reasonable person.


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[panxoman]

Official: Robinho to madrid ... what about changing the thread title?

so roma "unlawfully" buy a player and get a 1 year transfer ban.

real madrid try it and FIFA's supporting them

FIFA deserves a big round of applause for this

Florentino has used the same strategy that he used in previous big transfers. Nothing new.

First he reaches an agreement with the agents (money->agents) but they get a penalty clause in case the player don't go to Madrid. He doesn't care about club contracts.

Agents unsettle the player. He say he wants to go to madrid, he won't play anymore in his club, he will create lots of problem... bla bla bla

Club has to choose between having a player in the squad that will create problems to the whole team or getting some money. Usually they decide to get the money.

At the end it's always players who decide where they play.

I think Robinho will end playing in Madrid, but Florentino will have to pay the 50 millions.

On the other had this player will have too much pressure. He could be who gets the worst part of the deal.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

The more I hear about this deal with Robinho and his agents, saying he owes Real Madrid 12M if he doesn't go there, the more illegal and unsubstantiated that would be in any court. Not only that, but it sounds very very very much like TAPPING UP. How can you reach an agreement with a player already under contract with another team when his team obviously didn't give permission for you to discuss anything with him? And if it's just that Robinho's agents will owe 12M to Madrid, then why does he care? Like Robinho can't find another agent?

 

[Hans]

This whole Robinho saga is makin` me sick. In the last 6 months I always wake up in the morning and watching his face in the sports page with the same stories over and over again. This kid is so over-hyped it`s not even funny. The way I see it, he`s just gonna be another Samuel Eto`o, get into RM, get benched, get loaned, get sold, and ended up sayin` Madrin a bunch of "Cabron" ( hope I spell it right ) . . .