and it happens every single one... i'm sick and tired of seeing teams that are normally bottom of their respective league tables and normally unknowns (such as parma, real sociedad etc...) making it to the champions league final and winning the event... the fact that the cpu simulations stink that much makes it a difficult time getting realism from the uefa cup and champions league... i don't favor either way in PES or Fifa editions but in terms of cpu simulation PES does a much better job getting the major teams into the latter rounds of the cups. i hope this years fifa fixed that issue, odds favor no unfortunately...