Originally posted by sebapmr
......crappy gameplay compared to the realism of WE/PES.
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LOL, realism!
Have u ever played footie mate, and any of these games have realism? U PES/WE guys really are full of C**P. You are blinded by the need to put down the Fifa series which may be crap in some aspects, but when you guys talk about realism and 'perfect' you make me laugh till I cak.
End of day PES is playable as u can dribble which Fifa 2004 is crap at, but WE is crap at the same other things as Fifa, and Fifa has some things over it.
WE7 refereeing is diaobolical (fouls given for tackles when you have won the ball cleanly).
AI when attacking is worse than FIFA and I dont want to hear about editing this or that tactic in the menu, you shouldnt have to.
Go watch kids football and see that supporting the attacker, getting yourself into the box or running into the space comes obvious and natural. And even when you do mess about with the attacking menu options its still C**P. Fifa wins on that one even if it didnt have player runs.
WE/PES suffers the same as Fifa for when you clear the ball away your attacker cannot go challenge the defender for the ball who is waiting until it drops to him. Fifa is worse here because it happens more in other situations.
PES/WE defender rushes toward the ball possessing attacker even if you are just trying to close him down and if you are not on the exact correct line to make the tackle, you just fly past him- no control from me. Just as C**P as Fifa.
Graphics. I dont know why u all go on about this or that miniscule difference in graphics, both games are good enough in this department, just gimme the game play I can put up with either graphically.
I can put up with licences too, just gimme the gameplay.
Online is important to me and I know WE are working on it so, GIMME THE GAMEPLAY.
OK, this doesnt cover all the issues but its just an example to show you PES/WE is C**P just as Fifa is C**P.