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Arnau;2698388 said:bull****s.
maradona only use the left leg and he is ,more than probably, the best football player ever. Messi use to decide the big matches, score in all finals and almost all clássicos he play, is much more decisive and unpredictable than ronaldo.
ArgVega;2698425 said:you won't find better header than this:
I think its pretty even between the two of them, but for me, messi is more decisive in matches... if you are looking at complete football package than iniesta or gerrard would take the cake
Coruja;2698437 said:More decisive than Ronaldo in this last season yes. Two season ago Ronaldo was more decisive. Unpredictable i have to agree Messi is better. Maradona Era and Messi's Era is different two kind of footballs. If you ask me if Maradona is better than Ronaldo... Yes he was, but Ronaldo has 24 years old, so it's not a suprise.
In football all it matters to win is goals, and Maradona/Messi sure are unpredictable. But in a full match, there are other things needed, and Ronaldo has everything.
Dytza;2698443 said:And Messi is just 22 years old. I a full match, Messi comes in defence and help his side teammate more than Ronaldo does. Messi has more passes/match and a better accuracy of them (84% - 82%). Messi has a bigger dribble average (7.2) / match than Ronaldo (4.8).
Also talking about vision in the pitch, Messi always makes more assists then Ronaldo.
Haha both headers exposed are on the same pitch and in the same goal
Coruja;2698448 said:We're talking about the present, i know that in 2 years he can improve a lot!
About that statistics, what season they are?
Dytza;2698451 said:They are from this season. Intern League and Champions league.
And IMO present represents 08-09 season too. Things haven't change so dramatically since that.
Coruja;2698437 said:More decisive than Ronaldo in this last season yes. Two season ago Ronaldo was more decisive. Unpredictable i have to agree Messi is better.
Arnau;2698453 said:messi score a hattrick vs real madrid at age 19. he has always been decisive, messi use to show his best version in the toughest matches.
Coruja;2698452 said:I think they changed. I almost can tell that even in last season you would say that Messi was better, so what's difference? When i talk about present i talk about the begining of the "rivalries" between the 2. When you said that Messi's only 22 y/old you were talking about the future. I am a Benfica supporter so i dont care if Real Madrid loses or win, so i hope that you guys dont misunderstood my opinion. So i dont see the need to Neg Rep me because of this, if you guys have sure about Messi's qualities why bother to neg rep me because of an opinion?
you come late, roma wont sell him and his "newest" objective its Cesc fábregas.B9Goal;2698455 said:Looks like Perez is about to reel in De Rossi.
Dytza;2698456 said:I haven't neg repped you We just discuss no need to neg rep you. Or at least not for me.
Why do I talk about future when i say he is only 22. You just said Ronaldo is only 24.
Arnau;2698388 said:bull****s.
maradona only use the left leg and he is ,more than probably, the best football player ever. Messi use to decide the big matches, score in all finals and almost all clássicos he play, is much more decisive and unpredictable than ronaldo.
Arnau;2698457 said:you come late, roma wont sell him and his "newest" objective its Cesc fábregas.
Nady;2698699 said:Shows your ignorance. Ronaldo has been decisive in many games for us in the 2007-2008 season. He scored for us in the CL final. I'm not saying Ronaldo is more decisive, I think they're equal on that. Last season wasn't his season though.
If you compare Ronaldo at his best (2007-2008 season) Vs Messi at his best (2008-2009), I'd say Ronaldo is better. But for the 2008-2009 season Messi was definitely better. Messi has got better dribbling for sure, but Ronaldo has got better strength, long range efforts, free kicks, headers. You cannot argue that.
So overall Ronaldo wins for me if you compare both players at their best. But maybe we haven't seen Messi's best yet, same for Ronaldo. Things might change.
Nady;2698910 said:yes I agree for this season. He wasn't that decisive. I was talking about the 2007-2008 season in which he was at his best. Last season wasn't as good as 2007-2008 definitely.