simakperrce said:
Of course. Dozens of people who complain about it (noobs and veteran posters alike) -- and who have actually pointed it out FOR YEARS now -- are mentally ill and /or conspiracy buffs, and see things which aren't there. I am sorry to be that blunt, but you, sir, are an a..hole.
You misunderstood something here:
To say that the behaviour of a person can be explained in psychological terms has absolutely nothing to do with this person being "mentally ill".
Also, in the case of PES it is not about seeing things which arent there but more about drawing conclusions from observations that I suspect not to be objective.
The sole fact that it is dozens or more people sharing an impression about something does not in any way prove them right. For example just imagine any important but close referee decision in a real football match and how the club supporters perceive it.
Anyways, I did never call anyone mentally ill or something like that, so I urge you to please stop accusing me of doing so.
And btw the conspiracy thing was not meant all that serious, you might have overlooked the "
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simakperrce said:
I strongly suggest that your uncritical love of this game ...
Its always nice to get an offer for a free personal psychological analysis on a football-videogame forum from a person I don't even know, but no thanks, I'm fine
simakperrce said:
Now, it's ok with me if you decide to keep on living in that happy condition of yours, as long as you are not starting to make idiotic suggestions about 'psychological states' of other people or come on here like a smartass and pigeonhole other PES players into being nutcases on whom you can have some cheap laughs -- because many among these people have probably played this game much longer than you. And who BTW says that everyone is expecting PES to be "fun". I am having my own ideas about things being fun or not and I don't need idiots like you telling me in a patronizing manner that my attitude "takes away from the fun of the game", daddy.
I'm sorry, but you seem to have again totally missed my point here.
Actually I wasn't trying to make fun of other players at all, nor was I saying anything about "everybody is expecting PES to be fun", and i also was not at all denying everyones individual approach to enjoing a game.
I was only explaining that IMO (!) playing is more enjoyable when the player is not suspecting the game to cheat; and, to put it into Juce's words, consider any cheating-effects as game rules. If you disagree with that then you are free to express yourself or not. But I don't need ppl calling me an idiot and pointlessly accusing me of patronizing other pes players or calling them mentally ill and crap like that. I don't see why you made all this up.
simakperrce said:
Finally I side with Wolf here in that people who do not have a problem whatsoever with the things brought up here, or deny that they actually exist altogether, should please go and search a happy warm and fuzzy thread instead, and stop lecturing me and others on formations and super-cancel. You know, I KNOW all these things, but they have no effect on what I consider to be the problem here.
Congratiulations on siding with the Wolf, whose hard work brought joy to hundreds (or more likely thousands) of pc players including myself. Nevertheless I don't really care if its ok for you or not that I am posting my opinion and impressions about pes5 into this forum, as long as i am on topic and not in conflict with forum rules. Although I think that the idea of 'only listening to people that are telling what one wants to hear' is a bit embarrassing, but I guess you have your reasons for that.
Finally some last words on topic
To find out whether the cpu cheats, I suggest playing a wefa-final game, recording it (with fraps or an external recorder/other pc) , counting, say, ball deflections, ref decisions and goals/chances for you and the cpu and taking notes about the responsiveness of players. then repeat this process, say 50 times to be at least close to able to conclude any statistically relevant statement. My guess is that you would not find any significant bias in favor of the cpu that is not a clear result of tactic settings and player stats.