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The Arsenal Thread [2005/06]

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bkaj21

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were ****ed


i think ill get on a plane to bolton and assassinate their players now

bolton 1-5 chels
2-0 arsenal

WTF
 
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pede54

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Vagegast said:
And yet the first side to play with 11 foreigners was Chelsea, smartass.
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That as maybe mister,but Arsenal consistantly play with no English players and choose Foreign players over English week in and week out .We at Chelsea do have English players as the backbone of our team whereas Arsenal do not have any plans to do a similar thing......smartass...... :hump:
 
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Dreath

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pede54 said:
That as maybe mister,but Arsenal consistantly play with no English players and choose Foreign players over English week in and week out .We at Chelsea do have English players as the backbone of our team whereas Arsenal do not have any plans to do a similar thing......smartass...... :hump:
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Because you can afford them...

Been through this many times. Why get a player because he's English when you can get better or just as good for less abroad?
 
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pede54

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Because old mate........you are supposed to be an English club.....or had you forgotton that.Anyway,Arsenal have paid high prices for foreign players too.They did not all come cheap.
At this moment in time Arsenal are a mediocre club with very average players, with limited prospects for the future.Do you still consider your foreign squad better or as good as English players.If you are talking about the Championship standard of players,then maybe i can agree.I am not talking about the one good player that you do have.I am talking about all the other sub standard players you have.The ones that you try to reassure yourselves day in and day out,will mature one day into World class players when you know that is not going to happen.Arsenal need to spend money.You will not be going anywhere by doing things on the cheap,and please dont give me that crap about Arsenal not being a rich club.Even you lot know that isn't true.Your more mature players are rapidly getting past it,their days are numbered.If the prospects for Arsenal looked good,Henry would not leave would he,but he is leaving and Wenger will not be far behind.Why?......because your money men are too tight to spend,and those two know ,as you probably do,that the best days of Arsenal are behind you.Arsenal are becoming a sinking ship and the rats will begin to leave before you sink completely.
Harsh but true.
 
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Vagegast

Banned for Life [He likes P. Diddy]
Pede, I i think your sentiment is well-intentioned but why spend money on over-priced Englishmen when you can players get players like Henry for a bargain? Let's see: Van Persie, Anelka, Kanu, Ljungberg, Petit, Anelka, Vieira. All foreign bargains.

On your side of the argument? Jeffers.

The only English club that could afford Sean Wright Philips? Arsenal were interested, but only Chelsea could afford him. Trust me, Arsenal would have a lot more English players if they weren't so overhyped and expensive.
 
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ladylover

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Vagegast said:
Pede, I i think your sentiment is well-intentioned but why spend money on over-priced Englishmen when you can players get players like Henry for a bargain? Let's see: Van Persie, Anelka, Kanu, Ljungberg, Petit, Anelka, Vieira. All foreign bargains.

On your side of the argument? Jeffers.

The only English club that could afford Sean Wright Philips? Arsenal were interested, but only Chelsea could afford him. Trust me, Arsenal would have a lot more English players if they weren't so overhyped and expensive.
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I don't know about that, but I've never heard a rumour or something that Wenger has been interested in English players or talents, even the most talents in the reserves come from abroad, all I know is that IF Henry leaves, that would be the end for Arsenal at the moment, look what the results were when he was injured.
 
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IceBlu

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At least Arsenal aren't like Inter who can afford any player out there but choose foreign talent over Italian. The other day they didn't have a single Italian player on the field. Today they had one against Ascoli. Now that is shameful.

Its like this. Arsenal aren't going to buy an Englishman unless he is good. With the press and scouts keeping a close eye on every English player out there, the good ones start attracting attention from all over and by the time Arsenal can step up and make an offer, they are handed contracts by other clubs who can afford to pay much more. Instead Arsenal look abroad and get someone cheaper and just as good if not better. Its not their fault now is it?

Also, when money is an issue, buying a foreign player relatively cheap is less of a gamble. If it works, like it has so many times in the past then yay.. if not go shopping again. Arsenal cannot afford to be stuck with a 30 Million dollar dud.
 
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pede54

Team Captain
yeah good points indeed .I appreciate that,but i have seen so many promising English kids(forget Jeffers ok :funny: ) who,by their own words felt that they were overtly discouraged at Arsenal in favour of foreign,particularly French, youngsters.English kids who have been forced to leavr the club and feeling very bitter about it.Even as new laws are introduced into the game to encourage the use of home grown players at each club,Arsenal use the loopholes in the rules to bring in even younger kids from abroad.So when they eventually get registered,they will qualify as home grown players.The whole point of the new rules is to encourage the use of ,for instance,English players in the English leagues.Ideally there should not be any loopholes that can be exploited,but there are,but clubs could still enter into the spirit of the new rules and nurture some kids that were actually born here.I am sure that Arsenal will not be the only club who take advantage of the loophole by the way.
 
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Help?

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pede54 said:
yeah good points indeed .I appreciate that,but i have seen so many promising English kids(forget Jeffers ok :funny: ) who,by their own words felt that they were overtly discouraged at Arsenal in favour of foreign,particularly French, youngsters.English kids who have been forced to leavr the club and feeling very bitter about it.Even as new laws are introduced into the game to encourage the use of home grown players at each club,Arsenal use the loopholes in the rules to bring in even younger kids from abroad.So when they eventually get registered,they will qualify as home grown players.The whole point of the new rules is to encourage the use of ,for instance,English players in the English leagues.Ideally there should not be any loopholes that can be exploited,but there are,but clubs could still enter into the spirit of the new rules and nurture some kids that were actually born here.I am sure that Arsenal will not be the only club who take advantage of the loophole by the way.
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The only adjustment that can help produce more good english players is scrapping the 90-mile rule.
 
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ladylover

Senior Squad
IceBlu said:
At least Arsenal aren't like Inter who can afford any player out there but choose foreign talent over Italian. The other day they didn't have a single Italian player on the field. Today they had one against Ascoli. Now that is shameful.

Its like this. Arsenal aren't going to buy an Englishman unless he is good. With the press and scouts keeping a close eye on every English player out there, the good ones start attracting attention from all over and by the time Arsenal can step up and make an offer, they are handed contracts by other clubs who can afford to pay much more. Instead Arsenal look abroad and get someone cheaper and just as good if not better. Its not their fault now is it?

Also, when money is an issue, buying a foreign player relatively cheap is less of a gamble. If it works, like it has so many times in the past then yay.. if not go shopping again. Arsenal cannot afford to be stuck with a 30 Million dollar dud.
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Well they spend 20 mln. on Reyes, they could've used that money to bring in Wright Phillips instead, they both can play on the wings. Maybe it is too early to say it, but Reyes is starting to turn into a flop IMO, sure he has had his good games, but it is totally unbalanced compared to the bad games he had. With Van Persie you can see that he is improving every week........When Vieira left they could have scouted in England instead they brought in Alexander Song from abroad while there are English players as good in the First Division or at the mid-table clubs, which you can get cheap...
 
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TOON ARMY

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Arsenal have to realise that the days of just turning up at places like Bolton and thinking the 3 points are in the bag are over.

Cygan at left back? He gave away dozens of free-kicks and looked completely lost :funny:
 
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