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The Australian Cricket Team THread

Alex

Alex

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Originally posted by man united forever
mate i wasn't referring to you or australians in general;).

Australia deserve all the credit they get for the way they turned things around at the fag end of the tour, though let me say that i am proud of the way the indian team went there not to make up numbers, but to compete. For most of the tour, they did more than that - they beat Australia in a meaningful test in Australia(which hasn't happened for god knows how long) and showed that they can, with a bit of extra work, consistently compete with the very best in the business.
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Well ur post was in reply to a very confident post about the Australians (not from me). It definitely implied that the Australians were taking the Indians lightly, and we didnt learn anything over the summer....

Australia have improved over the summer, something that Im afraid India didnt do...It started out promising for them, ended poorly...Which is why I disagree with ur last comment "consistently compete"...I dont think so...The test series things were never settled (selection wise for Aust), and the pitches were batting pitches the whole way through...But the one day series, when we started returning to form, u guys struggled...
 
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celtic_bhoy

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hey fagentoni saurabh and muf i do have respect for india, just because i dont say 'i have respect for india' and because im bagging india abit doesnt mean i dont have respect for them so you two can just STFU!
 
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man united forever

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Originally posted by Alex
Australia have improved over the summer, something that Im afraid India didnt do...It started out promising for them, ended poorly...Which is why I disagree with ur last comment "consistently compete"...I dont think so...The test series things were never settled (selection wise for Aust), and the pitches were batting pitches the whole way through...But the one day series, when we started returning to form, u guys struggled...
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No doubt Australia have improved over the summer, but the meaning of the comment 'consistently compete' was taken slightly out of context. I said '...and can, with a bit of extra work, consistently compete with the very best....'.

As far as Australia returning to form is concerned, that's an undeniable fact, though one of the factors(and a worrying one for Indian fans) was the lack of intensity of the Indian team in our last four matches, which perhaps suggested that they had had their fill of the tour. I am not for one moment putting that forward as the reason for Australia's victories in the latter part of the VB series. Hell in that form they'd probably beat anyone! But there was a marked difference in the Indian team that began the VB series and pushed Australia so close in the first three matches that they could have won all three instead of just the one, and the one that ended it, struggling against Zimbabwe at Perth.

Tiredness at the end of a long tour is something that happens to all teams, and at the end of the day, Australia showed greater endurance than us and are the better team for it. However, I am confident that over time, the younger players in the squad will be able to use this experience to steel themselves and go the full distance on long tours in the future. It's a part of cricket and it doesn't matter how much talent you have if you can't last 2 and a half months of international cricket.

Finally, let me explain that comment about the dog and the wise man. I think it may have been taken the wrong way. I was effectively telling the kid that he can 'bark' all he wants, but I'm not going to pay attention.
 
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it was a big shame the zimmies failed to win 3 games at least. They had those in the bag but threw them away! :kader: they will get back to their 1999 form i am sure of it.
 
Alex

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Originally posted by man united forever
No doubt Australia have improved over the summer, but the meaning of the comment 'consistently compete' was taken slightly out of context. I said '...and can, with a bit of extra work, consistently compete with the very best....'.

As far as Australia returning to form is concerned, that's an undeniable fact, though one of the factors(and a worrying one for Indian fans) was the lack of intensity of the Indian team in our last four matches, which perhaps suggested that they had had their fill of the tour. I am not for one moment putting that forward as the reason for Australia's victories in the latter part of the VB series. Hell in that form they'd probably beat anyone! But there was a marked difference in the Indian team that began the VB series and pushed Australia so close in the first three matches that they could have won all three instead of just the one, and the one that ended it, struggling against Zimbabwe at Perth.

Tiredness at the end of a long tour is something that happens to all teams, and at the end of the day, Australia showed greater endurance than us and are the better team for it. However, I am confident that over time, the younger players in the squad will be able to use this experience to steel themselves and go the full distance on long tours in the future. It's a part of cricket and it doesn't matter how much talent you have if you can't last 2 and a half months of international cricket.

Finally, let me explain that comment about the dog and the wise man. I think it may have been taken the wrong way. I was effectively telling the kid that he can 'bark' all he wants, but I'm not going to pay attention.
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Ahh...sorry, I thought you meant that India had put in the "extra work" and thats why they got those results...I understand what u were saying now ;)

As much as India probably did go down hill a bit at the end, I think that the Australian team worked out Laxmann and Dravid, and that put a huge dent in the Indian lineup....We just couldnt get near them at the start of the summer, and had them covered by the end...Couple that with an inform Brett Lee (taking pressure off Gillespie, and meaning Williams isnt focused on so much), and things were always going to be tough for the Indians...

I think another problem for the Indians, was after they lost 2/3 of those early matches, in games they could and should have won, I think they lost intensity...This is soemthing that they REALLY need to work on, and isnt a good attitude...Australia seem to get better when theyre beaten, India seem to get worse...
 
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man united forever

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i don't think india lost intensity because of that. in fact, getting that close to the world champions should have been a source of inspiration to them. i believe it was that week-long layoff, only interrupted by a match against the president's XI(something that is hardly likely to figure highly on the team's to-do list) that did it for them. It's a bit of a paradox that they looked jaded in the end because of a break, but perhaps they lost focus during that week. Who knows, we could go on forever discussing what happened and still be clueless.
 
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saurabh

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Well I too believe that Aussies really deserve special mention after their performance in last 3-4 matches..they came back from behind very well.


Comin to Indian player gettin tired I dont think that it should be taken as excuse b'coz at such level u dun expect these excuse from players.They are professional players and its their job.Aussies player too were travelling same as much as Indians.

I think that Indians lost series b'coz of mental weekness more than physical weekness.It was really a long series and being away from home 2.5 months is really a big thing.


Comin to Pakistan tour of India...I doubt it as juz now BCCI has said in its report that Indian Team should not tour Pakistan.I hope that Indian team should go there but player security would be kept before it.
 
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man united forever

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I hope Kyle Mills isn't playing today, because I'll have to yell 'You're a ******* chucker'(it's my duty as a cricket fan to point it out to the lad), and then the Black Caps supporters will beat the crap out of me.....:(

Anyway if you see a skinny Indian guy getting beaten up in the terraces, that's me!:D
 
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man united forever

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For the record, I did call him a chucker:D. I wasn't the only one though. Some other guy yelled out "you suck you ******* chucker" too, so I wasn't the only one:D.

Bastard lost the game for New Zealand with his ****ty bowling and fumbles:(. Seeing McMillan get hit in the nuts live was worth the entrance fee though:D.
 
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