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The Azzurri Thread

mark77

Transfer Guru
Azzurri fear Scandinavian fix
Saturday19 June, 2004

Alex Del Piero, Gennaro Gattuso and Andrea Pirlo admit they fear that Denmark and Sweden will play out a high-scoring draw to knock out Italy.

“The international press and especially the Danes have picked on us over the last few days due to Francesco Totti’s spitting incident,” noted Del Piero. “They all talked about a lack of fair play. Now it’ll be interesting to see what their version of fair play is.”

A score-draw of 2-2 or above would automatically qualify both teams and eliminate Italy from the competition, regardless of their result against Bulgaria.

“A 2-2 would be truly a dirty result,” added the suspicious Juve captain, “but I am certain that both teams will go out there looking for the win.”

The rules for Group games in major tournaments were changed after the scandal of 1982, when Austria and Germany played out the only result that would qualify both teams, choosing not to go past the halfway line for 70 minutes of the match.

Now all the final Group ties must be played simultaneously to avoid a similar incident, except in this case Italy’s result is potentially irrelevant.

“I am still confident we’ll go through,” added Del Piero. “Sweden and Denmark can draw 0-0 or 1-1, because that can happen, but a 2-2 is such a strange result that it would mean there was some sort of agreement. It would be undignified and a shameful blight on both nations.”

Andrea Pirlo (pictured) is also concerned that a high-scoring draw will raise major question marks over the two neighbouring nations.

“I have experience at the highest level,” said the Milan man, “and therefore know that to agree a 2-2 draw or higher is very difficult indeed. If it was 0-0 that could qualify them, we’d be much more worried as that’s surely much simpler to play out.”

Some newspapers even asked Pirlo if he was going to call his Rossoneri teammates Jon Dahl Tomasson and Martin Laursen.

“It would be ridiculous for me to do such a thing. They are professionals and already know how to behave.”

But the toughest warning came from Gennaro Gattuso, who will be suspended for Italy’s match with Bulgaria.

“Let’s put about 50 TV cameras on the Sweden-Denmark game to capture it if anything untoward happens,” said the midfield warrior. “If there’s something I can’t stand, it’s all these Swedes and Danes trying to teach us how to play fair, so now I want to see what they’ll come up with.”

Gattuso also harked back to the controversy that followed Italy’s exit from the 2002 World Cup – a tournament that saw five valid goals disallowed for a variety of refereeing errors.

“I think we Italians aren’t too popular nowadays. They say UEFA respect us, but in every tournament recently something strange happens.”

The most reassuring Azzurri voice is Christian Vieri, who missed several great chances to kill off the game against Sweden.

“The Scandinavians have always been a model of civil behaviour and sporting fair play,” said the Inter striker. “I really doubt there will be a fix.”
 

italianstyle87

Starting XI
thanks moggi77, really good read
if they play out a 2-2 draw deliberately, then i would worry if italy doesnt go through
i wouldnt want to to watch italy play in a corrupt tournament
italy should just focus on beating denmark, and not worry about anythin else
 

Little-Caesar

Banned [Multiple Accounts]
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Consider this scenario...

Italy beats Bulgaria 2-0
Sweden and Denmark draw 1-1

Standings look like this...

Sweden: 5 points GD: 5
Denmark: 5 points GD: 2
Italy: 5 points GD: 2
Bulgaria: 0 points GD: who cares

How do we determine who goes through, Italy or Denmark?
 

Yossarian

Fan Favourite
so who would you guys want to replace Cannavaro? Mighty Materazzi or Ferrari? I like 'em both, but I prefer the Matrix more....I also hope that Matteo returns to Inter come next season..
 

Lean

Fan Favourite
For me it's going to be Ferrari. You never know when Materazzi is going to lose control and elbow someone.
 

Lean

Fan Favourite
Originally posted by Little-Caesar
Consider this scenario...

Italy beats Bulgaria 2-0
Sweden and Denmark draw 1-1

Standings look like this...

Sweden: 5 points GD: 5
Denmark: 5 points GD: 2
Italy: 5 points GD: 2
Bulgaria: 0 points GD: who cares

How do we determine who goes through, Italy or Denmark?
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Most goals for. Italy would've scored 3, Denmark also 3. So it would be Goals against, Italy conceded 1, Denmark 1. Then it goes to discipline i guess, dont remember the number of yellows, but i'm almost sure Italy got more than Denmark.

Would be sad to see Italy eliminated by cards...(H)
 

northstar

Senior Squad
I would do this for the Bulgaria match. Same formation and it should be easy. Bulgarian team is in crisis, there are reports some of the players may leave the team.

-----------------------------Buffon------------------------

Panucci---------Ferrari---------Nesta---------Zambrotta

---------Perotta-----------Pirlo-------------Zanetti---------

------------Cassano----------------Del Piero------------

---------------------------Vieri--------------------------------

coach: Mancini

:p
 

italianstyle87

Starting XI
Originally posted by northstar


-----------------------------Buffon------------------------

Panucci---------Ferrari---------Nesta---------Zambrotta

---------Perotta-----------Pirlo-------------Zanetti---------

------------Cassano----------------Del Piero------------

---------------------------Vieri--------------------------------


id play it like that too
and the game plan would be: attack for 90mins
 

italianstyle87

Starting XI
DEL PIERO SPEAKS FOR HIS TEAMMATES: "WE'LL PASS IF WE PLAY LIKE THIS"
The regret for having tied at the last minute against Sweden in a match they thought was won has not influenced the team's conviction and confidence in passing the round. Alessandro Del Piero, one of the protagonists of the match at the Dragao stadium, speaks for his teammates: "Of course we are sorry about this result because we deserved to win - said the Azzurro. But now we have to stop looking behind us, and we have to look ahead. We just weren't lucky and let's hope that we will be in the next match. We have to play like we did yesterday, with the same personality, the same determination, we played excellent football".

Even the substitution a few minutes from the end of the match leaves the Juventus player serene: "Trapattoni decides on the substitutions. As far as I am concerned, I wasn't tired, but the coach has three substitutions to make and his decisions must be respected. It's not the moment to say whether I deserved to play 70' or 90'. Maybe this time Trap understands that I bring luck since every time he takes me out of the match the other team scores", adds Del Piero, joking about his substitution even during the loss against Korea in the World Cup.


"All joking aside, I think that Trap tried to face the pressure put on by Sweden by putting on the field players with other characteristics. Unfortunately, we threw away two points because of a great play by Ibrahimovic, who, we have to admit was also very lucky. It's a pity because we had run very few risks until that moment. It's normal that in the end they pushed the most putting in another forward and looking for the header by Ibrahimovic. It was only normal for us to slow the pace down.". The number 7 player has no doubts about Italy remaining in Euro 2004: "I am certain that we will pass, and if we play like we did against Sweden, we'll beat Bulgaria and Denmark and Sweden cannot tie 2-2. A 0-0 score would be comprehensible, because may neither team wants to hurt the other. But a 2-2 or 3-3 score would mean that they agreed on the result and it would be a despicable gesture. In any case, we have to win".

"If we always play like we did against Sweden not only will we pass the round, but we can look with optimism at the rest of the tournament. The National team has always had problems in the qualifying matches and in the initial matches of these types of tournaments, except at the European Championships in 2000. We are born to suffer. I hope this brings us luck, though. Sometimes, after suffering a lot we obtained some fantastic results", he concluded.
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some good words from DP
if its a 2-2 or 3-3 draw there is going to be a national outcry, every1 is determined it cant happen
 
M

Mikey

Guest
To just clear things up for you guys... if italy wins 2-0 and bulgaria-denmark 1-1, than the decider is not fairplay, but who had better record in qualifying for WC 2002 and euro 2004. Italy has a better record, so theyd go through.


.... italy shouldnt have been in this whole mess to begin with....

(not to get too ahead of myself, but if all goes well and italy goes through, they have a date with the czechs)
 

vincenzo

Youth Team
trap is a fkn dickhead i hate him. why the **** is he so defensive??? he always plays it 4-2-3-1 like a big retard. then as soon as hes up 1 goal he replaces offensive players with defensive ones and ****s it all up. ive hated him since he replaced Zoff... i loved zoff man. now trap's time is running out n it looks like lippi is gonna replace him. itll be for sure friday. and i wont mis trap one fkn bit.... stupid fker
 
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IceBlu

Guest
Italy role for Ferrara?


Thursday 24 June, 2004

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Ciro Ferrara could leave Juventus this summer to become Marcello Lippi’s assistant with the national side.

Lippi is expected to replace Giovanni Trapattoni as Italy boss and reports suggest he could bring Ferrara with him.

The veteran defender still has one-year left on his contract in Turin but the 36-year-old may be tempted to leave.

Lippi has always had a good relationship with the former international and he would reportedly like him in the national set-up.

The Napoli legend is allegedly thinking over the offer even though his salary would be substantially reduced if he left club football.

Lippi could be named as Italy boss on Friday as he is understood to have agreed a two-year contract worth £750,000 a season.

He is also likely to work with a host of his former Juventus colleagues such as fitness trainer Vincenzo Pincolini and chief scout Narciso Pezzotti.






:mrpimp:
 


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