The "Cristiano Ronaldo's future" saga thread.

[Filipower]

Really? I really didn't thinks so, am I the only one?

 

[Deni_Rossonero]

No you're certainly not! Torres was useful in a lot of ways, football is a lot more than just step-overs, and doing everything to score. On intelligence alone C.Ronaldo would never be the best. IMO only players that can control the game, have unthinkable creativity that can break the whole defense in a second with a pass or a run and perform when it's needed against any opposition can truly be the best. Ronaldo has none of these qualities IMO he's not even the best at United Rooney is a God compared to him. Ronaldo maybe does dribble good but in that aspect he's far inferior to Ronaldinho and concerning his goals, there where a lot of players that were selfish and got a lot of goals from themselves but were never though to be the best here he's no better than Ruud for example. You all say he's a winger, in almost all the games i watched united play he was coming more infront of the goal than even Rooney so id say he had his chances to take those goals also being the penalty taker and the free kick taker. And from all his goals a lot where just tap-ins. Plus his teamwork is 0 actually he's so selfish he damages the rest of the team and on that alone he could never be the best to me. He is good but IMO he is very over-rated.

THIS IS MY OPINION so dont bother proving me wrong. I don't care. i'm just sick a bit of all the **** people say against Messi or Kaka' just to proove that he is better.

And another thing United would be 10x the team without him.

EDIT: One more thing Ronaldo is what he is because of Rooney!

 

[Help?]

Seeing your sig, I understand why you feel that way. Now lets compare Ronaldo's first year in the EPL to Torres' first year in the EPL. Because of this, I feel Torres stood out more and was dominating the EPL (pound for pound) more than Ronaldo. and was super instrumental with a huge goal in the final. While Ronaldo has missed several big game opportunities.

Yes that's very smart comparing Ronaldo's first season in a big team at the age of 18 and Torres' first season in a big team at the age of 23. Barely any factors that influence the outcome, right?


Now, were you even watching EPL this season or just the few Liverpool games? Torres dominated the EPL, that's a laugh, anybody from Liverpool doesn't even come close to being mentioned as somebody dominating the EPL. Rio Ferdinand showed just how easy it is to cover him out of the game. And that missed big game opportunities is getting old now, Ronaldo scored a huge goal in the CL final that allowed United to win it because Chelsea were never gonna go for 90 minutes without scoring.


Deni Rossonero: nobody will even try to prove you wrong, you are too biased just like many other Kaka and Messi fans. Just the fact alone that you said Ronaldo only does step-overs, never passes and has zero creativity killed your credibility. So what's the point?


call him an asshole, ****, jerk, golddigger, money-grabbing backstaber, bitch, crybaby whatever, but there is one thing you can't take away from him and that's his footballing ability, which was matched by none in the past year.

 

[Deni_Rossonero]

You completely misunderstood what i wrote. I know that he currently is in the best form of all players in the world and what he did in this last season was great, but still i was referring from my point of view to things that for me separate the best, and to me Gerrard or Rooney are better players than Ronaldo, that shouldn't bother you, and if you weren't so up for a debate you'd see that i didn't mean to negate his talents but simply said that even with that because of the things he's missing there are better players in the world FOR ME, and by the way don't twist my words i never said he doesn't pass or does only step-overs (do you have to oversimplify and use my lack of will to make a little novel of a post to make arguements). And to me compared to players like Deco, Pirlo, Xavi, Messi, Ronaldinho he has 0 creativity, sorry but behind this one i stand.
P.s. What's with that call him this call him that? Did i sound hostile towards him at all. I actually don't even have a negative opinion on him i just don't rate him that high.

 

[Zakov]

IMHO, based on 2007/2008 season, Ronaldo deserves to be crowned World Player of the Year. Yes, he does score the ugly goals but he also scores the beautiful ones as well, and bear in mind, that the fact he scored 42 goals for the season, he was top scorer in the EPL, top scorer in the CL, says it all, sure he's got a great team behind him but he was the one that stood out the most with his performances. And not everyone can score from tap-ins on a frequent basis, if your not in-form and lack the composure you can miss the easy ones as well(Adebayor )

Despite having an average Euro, I thought he had a similar tournament to Torres, despite Torres performing a bit better than him. I also thought that Villa/Silva/Senna/Xavi were better than Torres tbh. But the fact that Torres scored the winning goal in the final swayed a lot of people's minds towards him. Especially after Cristina's Portugal were dumped out by the Germans.

I also think he deserves it because the fact that the 60++ games you play in the season defines and evaluates your performance more than 6 games or so in the Euros. But club and country are two different things so thats open for debate.

Simply put, Ronaldo had a more successful season than Torres with his club, also performing better and delivered when he needed to(I can name many of the crucial occasions where he annoyed us by scoring). Torres wasn't that spectacular in the Euros but scored the goal that won Spain the Euros and Ronaldo's team only got to the QFs and he also wasn't spectacular either.

The only thing that hinders Ronaldo from being accepted by the people is his attitude(especially in this transfer saga) and his lack of team effort(especially when things don't go his way). And the f@#ing grinning gay face of his as well.
He also doesn't know the meaning of "tracking back".

 

[Deni_Rossonero]

Those are all facts which are non-disputable i agree with you on everthing and i even don't think that there is any competition between him and Torres for this years Ballon d'Or or Player of the year awards. He's the obvious choice.

 

[Help?]

You completely misunderstood what i wrote. I know that he currently is in the best form of all players in the world and what he did in this last season was great, but still i was referring from my point of view to things that for me separate the best, and to me Gerrard or Rooney are better players than Ronaldo, that shouldn't bother you, and if you weren't so up for a debate you'd see that i didn't mean to negate his talents but simply said that even with that because of the things he's missing there are better players in the world FOR ME, and by the way don't twist my words i never said he doesn't pass or does only step-overs (do you have to oversimplify and use my lack of will to make a little novel of a post to make arguements). And to me compared to players like Deco, Pirlo, Xavi, Messi, Ronaldinho he has 0 creativity, sorry but behind this one i stand.
P.s. What's with that call him this call him that? Did i sound hostile towards him at all. I actually don't even have a negative opinion on him i just don't rate him that high.

Alright, like you said that's your opinion. Mine is completely different.


PS. no you didn't sound hostile, i was just trying to make a point that his attitude is very bad, but at least from what i see his footballing talents are great.

 

[IORI]

EDIT: One more thing i Ronaldo is what he is because of Rooney!

hahahaha what

 

[Deni_Rossonero]

hahahaha what

I believe the point of my post was that i like batman more than superman.
Batman is a bat and a man while superman is a super and a man ,and i don't like that.

 

[Arnau_V2]

Torres was very bad in EURO 2008

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD and you only see the goals of tournament

 

[Deni_Rossonero]

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD and you only see the goals of tournament

 

[svukovic]

In my opinion, there is no need for Real or Ronaldo to consider this transfer.

First, Real Madrid has more then enough superstars and talented players. They have proven that these past couple of years in La Liga. What's more, we've all seen what happens when too many stars are thrown into a team situation (take Barcelona this past season as an example - Ronaldinho, Henri, Messi, Puyol ...).

Finally, why would Ronaldo need or want to transfer from one of the top clubs in the world to another one of the top clubs in the world?

If you want to follow developments on this story (or even if you just want to check headlines and live scores, play online soccer games, watch video highlights, and participate in online polls) I would encourage you to refer to my site: http://www.4usoccerportal.blogspot.com

 

[ShearerM4]

“In football there’s too much modern slavery,” the FIFA president said on Sky News. “I’m always in favour of protecting the player.

“If he wants to leave, let him. If Ronaldo stays at a club where he does not feel comfortable to play then it’s not good for him or the club.

... what a clown. And of course you know that if the clubs were reversed he would be all in favour with the player having to stay

Havent really looked at this thread so I'm sure it's been discussed, nobody's really "in the wrong" here... everyone is trying to get what they want which is fair enough. BUT if Ronaldo wanted to leave so soon he shouldn't have signed a 5 year deal. Unless Real can meet ManUtd expectation then they have no obligation.

 

[MikeyM]

... what a clown. And of course you know that if the clubs were reversed he would be all in favour with the player having to stay

Havent really looked at this thread so I'm sure it's been discussed, nobody's really "in the wrong" here... everyone is trying to get what they want which is fair enough. BUT if Ronaldo wanted to leave so soon he shouldn't have signed a 5 year deal. Unless Real can meet ManUtd expectation then they have no obligation.

Agree totally. Septic Bladder and FIFA are scared of mighty Real Madrid as per usual. If Bladder and FIFA do "intervene" then they might as well just abolish contracts all together!

 

[Help?]

Yeah might as well. It just seems to be a useless hussle and paperwork that's pointless anyway.













PS, somebody needs to give Blatter a "slave for a week" experience, maybe then he'll realize that they weren't actually one of the highest paid people in the world.

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

Bladder is an !d!ot. Ronaldo is under contract. My, how the meaning of contract has been skewed in football!

 

[Bobby]

Yeah might as well. It just seems to be a useless hussle and paperwork that's pointless anyway.













PS, somebody needs to give Blatter a "slave for a week" experience, maybe then he'll realize that they weren't actually one of the highest paid people in the world.

Honest to God.

If Ronaldo is a slave then I'm waiting on the ship to pick me up, I'll even flag them down!

 

[ShearerM4]

Still can't believe he used the word "slavery" and the fact he thinks that Ronaldo should be able to leave ManUtd for free. And that all of that is totally normal.

from another forum:

Can't believe this guy even got reelected recently, he's never had a single good idea. I wonder if he can do anything that's part of his job properly. Just a big fat waste of space personally responsible for a lot of the problems in footnall today.

 

[Zakov]

haha, nice find ShearerM4. Really sums up Bladder's idiocy and stupidity considering the remarks he made about the term "slavery".

 

[MikeyM]

haha, nice find ShearerM4. Really sums up Bladder's idiocy and stupidity considering the remarks he made about the term "slavery".

What I find reprehensible is the fact that Ronaldo agrees with him! He was shown on TV (speaking through a translator) He says United are treating him like a slave.

That's it - I want this ungrateful little c*nt out and away from my club, Real Madrid are welcome to him. I don't think he'll get much love from the Stretford End should he ever return to Old Trafford. Disgrace to our name if ever he pulls on the red shirt again.

Fergie, David Gill - accept £70M and get rid.