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The Kosovo Independence Thread {P+R}

RobbieD_PL

Unreliable deceiver
Staff member
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Deisler;2495764 said:
Robbie what's so scientific about Podolski and Klose playing for Poland?

Absolutely EVERYTHING. :D

Nways i still dont get why would a Pole feel so touched by serbian nationalism. You have a serbian boyefriend man. Don't deny it. :D

First off. Don't be a dick. I've already got one as it is, why would I need a second one? :p

Yeh but they were born in Poland. That doesn't mean I'm claiming Cologne! :D

And I've interated my point so many times before. Only 6 damn republics! is that so hard to understand? :D
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
It's cool guys, Klose and Podolski are playing for the nation they were born into.

HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAH!!! Wir sind Bayern!!! Wir sind Deutschland!! Suck it douches!!!




Euro 2008.................... GO ENGLAND!!!!! Oh wait :(
 

RobbieD_PL

Unreliable deceiver
Staff member
Moderator
ShiftyPowers;2495829 said:
It's cool guys, Klose and Podolski are playing for the nation they were born into.

HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAH!!! Wir sind Bayern!!! Wir sind Deutschland!! Suck it douches!!!




Euro 2008.................... GO ENGLAND!!!!! Oh wait :(

Sie sind alles dem Kühenfickers (H)
 

RobbieD_PL

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bybuti;2495869 said:
you study politics ?? :|

can you translate this to normal language ?? :p

"The Republic of Kosovo is an independent, sovereign, democratic, unique and indivisible state."

Oh I think then you just meant academic in the wider sense. Science is the sense of the term "science fiction" is quite separate from Politics. :D

Well it IS unique in itself, but other non-recognised states ARE justifying their own aims from Kosovo's secession.

As for whether it's sovereign; There's a degree of sovereignty, but there is no absolute sovereignty as vested in the "citizens" of "Kosovo".

Of course it's indivisible from Albania, that's the whole point! :D
 
ShiftyPowers;2495864 said:
Don't make me post Polack jokes!!!!
El Presidente: ¿A cuantos Polacos les toma a comerse un burrito?
Crowd: [silence]
El Presidente: Dos. Hahaha!
Crowd: [silence]
El Presidente: ¿A cuantos Polacos les toma a manejar a Panamá?
 

RobbieD_PL

Unreliable deceiver
Staff member
Moderator
Run DMB;2496013 said:
El Presidente: ¿A cuantos Polacos les toma a comerse un burrito?
Crowd: [silence]
El Presidente: Dos. Hahaha!
Crowd: [silence]
El Presidente: ¿A cuantos Polacos les toma a manejar a Panamá?

El President is one sad bag for douching! (H) No one laughes at his jokes :S
 

RobbieD_PL

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Staff member
Moderator
easyeasyeasy;2496550 said:
Give it 20-25 years. Then you'll be cursing us for having a lot of your players in our national team (H)

They'd rather play for Poland than Cymru! (H)
 

mrromaniac

Reserve Team
I'm from Romania and there is no chance that Transylvania will gain independence. The majority of the people are romanians and there are like 20% hungarians (they are the ones that want independence) . And also the main reason Romania isn't accepting Kosovo's independence is that hungarians may want something similar.
 

easyeasyeasy

Senior Squad
RobbieD_PL;2496655 said:
They'd rather play for Poland than Cymru! (H)
Nah you watch, by 2030 the sheepshaggers will have grown into a much stronger team than they are now (presumably because the old FAW councillors would have been long dead and buried), with the Cambro-Polish players in the squad providing the goals! (H)

Or maybe I'm dreaming :junior:
 
mrromaniac;2497156 said:
I'm from Romania and there is no chance that Transylvania will gain independence. The majority of the people are romanians and there are like 20% hungarians (they are the ones that want independence) . And also the main reason Romania isn't accepting Kosovo's independence is that hungarians may want something similar.

Dracula himself would roll over in his tomb if that were to ever happen..
 

Nettles

Youth Team
Anyone ever read this? Good article:


Kosovo: A matter of Western oil interests, not democracy


Aditya Ganapathiraju
The Daily
March 10, 2008

Kosovo, a small territory where primarily ethnic Albanians reside, announced its independence from Serbia last month. While Western leaders have celebrated this unilateral secession as a great moment for democracy, the actual details of the secession paint a different picture.

In 1999, the United States led NATO in bombing the former Yugoslavia under the pretense of preventing Serbian aggression against Kosovar Albanians. Former president of Serbia, Slobodan Milosevic, whom the United States once supported, played a key role in the aggression.

While bombing was said to be essential to prevent genocide, in 2005 senior Clinton official John Norris wrote differently in his novel Collision Course.

“It was Yugoslavia’s resistance to the broader trends of political and economic reform — not the plight of the Kosovar Albanians — that best explains NATO’s war,” he wrote.

Bill Richardson, Clinton’s secretary of energy, also brought up underlying reasons for the bombing.

“This is about America’s energy security,” he said months after the bombing.

At the time, the U.N. Security Council passed resolution 1244, which guaranteed a commitment of all member states to the “sovereignty and territorial integrity” of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

Serbian and Russian political officials have said Kosovo’s declaration of independence was in gross violation of 1244 and a breach of international law, while the United States asserts that Kosovo’s independence was fully consistent with 1244, said Zalmay Khalilzad, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, in a security council press release.

“I’m very torn,” said Stephen Zunes, a UC San Francisco professor of international studies, in an interview with therealnews.com. “I have supported the Kosovo Albanians’ struggle for self-determination for quite a few years now, and yet … the nature of the current Kosovo-Albanian leadership and the hypocrisy and double standards of the United States and other Western powers makes this a time that should be one of celebration to one of, frankly, great apprehension.”

Zunes and others point to the hypocrisy of Western powers in supporting Kosovo’s right to secede but ignoring other regions with similar aspirations, like Tibet, Western Sahara, the Basque country in Spain, Kashmir, Taiwan, Palestine and Kurdistan.

Asia Times columnist Pepe Escobar said to look at Camp Bondsteel and the Albanian Macedonian Bulgarian Oil Corp. (AMBO) for answers as to why the United States is interested in Kosovo’s independence.

The $1.1 billion AMBO pipeline will take oil from the Caspian Sea, bypassing the heavily trafficked Aegean and Mediterranean seas and routing it through Macedonia to the U.S.-friendly Albanian port of Vlora, ultimately taking the oil to refineries in the United States for significantly less cost than it now incurs.

Camp Bondsteel will serve to provide “security” in the region, defending critical pipeline areas while also serving as “a sort of smaller — and friendlier — five-star Guantanamo, with perks like Thai massage and loads of junk food,” Escobar said.

Kosovo’s independence may have little to do with its autonomy. Officials in Brussels have confirmed that thousands of EU bureaucrats will be sent to the nation-state to form another “EU (and NATO) protectorate,” Escobar wrote.

Meanwhile, Iraqi Kurdistan has been denied its independence. Turkey officials are furious at the precedent Kosovo has set and invaded Northern Iraq with 10,000 troops to show the world that Kurdish secession is not an option.

“An array of European analysts, not to mention Russians, has compared the current, dangerous state of play in the Balkans to Sarajevo in 1914 that led to the outbreak of World War II,” Escobar wrote.
 

mrromaniac

Reserve Team
::shinji::;2497197 said:
Dracula himself would roll over in his tomb if that were to ever happen..
If you ask a foreigner about Romania he will surely say something about Dracula. Dracula never existed (like man, an of course, like vapire). He was created by a foreign writer, inspired by the ruler of Tara Romaneasca (today's South Romania), Vlad Tepes, who was punishing those who broke the law by stickin them in a wooden sharp and big pole. Also, the Bran Castle, who is thought to be the residence of Dracula:boohoo: is not so scarry, I went there a few times and excluding the gothic architecture and legends, there is nothing scarry. Oh, and by the way, he wasn't the ruler of Transylvania, he was the ruler of Tara Romaneasca.
Again, about the independence thing, we, romanians, should "receive" the territories that we lost in the World Wars, Moldova Republic (at least the southern one) and Northern Bucovina (who now belongs to Ukraine).:crazyboy:
 

Filipower

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