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The Official Liverpool FC - Champions of Europe [2004/2005] Thread
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John_Arne_Riise
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The one player we sold that we never replaced was Robbie Fowler. Baros can fill Owen's shoes.
Haukur Gudnason
::President Scouser::
We're in for Mori for €10m. That would explain Rick Parry's recent trips to Spain. Would like Anelka too deffo if we have the funds. Mellor and Henchoz plus a bit of cash Anelka maybe? 
John_Arne_Riise
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Originally posted by Haukur Gudnason
We're in for Mori for €10m. That would explain Rick Parry's recent trips to Spain. Would like Anelka too deffo if we have the funds. Mellor and Henchoz plus a bit of cash Anelka maybe?
True. Man City were linked with Henchoz at the start of the season. So many a swap deal like you say Henchoz + $$ for Anelka.
What would you guys think about having a player like Veiri as a short term solution on loan until seasons end if Inter would allow that?
Haukur Gudnason
::President Scouser::
We got Leverkusen.
Ours is the least-interesting tie of the English clubs - we've drawn the least-fashionable side, and avoided Lyon as well, who were looking fairly handy.
Great draw.
Ours is the least-interesting tie of the English clubs - we've drawn the least-fashionable side, and avoided Lyon as well, who were looking fairly handy.
Great draw.
Mori for no more than £10m will be okay. Like somebody said before. Fowler was never replaced. people will say but look at Fowler now and i would agree but there is a reason for that.
the guy was heartbroken that he had to leave Liverpool. GH and PT never liked him. Robbie cant get motivated playing for another club.
the guy was heartbroken that he had to leave Liverpool. GH and PT never liked him. Robbie cant get motivated playing for another club.
AberdeenFC
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nice draw 
clearly at this stage you're not going to get an easy game in the champions league but out of all the sides we could of got i picked out leverkusen as the team ide must like us to draw. beside we owe them a bit of revenge
that lucio goal really fúcked us up in 2002, we would of been in the semi finals against man utd and would of fancied our chances against them. *sigh* 
what could have been!!
i was at anfield for the 1st leg
clearly at this stage you're not going to get an easy game in the champions league but out of all the sides we could of got i picked out leverkusen as the team ide must like us to draw. beside we owe them a bit of revenge
that lucio goal really fúcked us up in 2002, we would of been in the semi finals against man utd and would of fancied our chances against them. *sigh* what could have been!!i was at anfield for the 1st leg
The Kop Kid
Senior Squad
Originally posted by AberdeenFC
nice draw
clearly at this stage you're not going to get an easy game in the champions league but out of all the sides we could of got i picked out leverkusen as the team ide must like us to draw. beside we owe them a bit of revenge
i was at anfield for the 1st leg
Agree completely. I think we'll have 'em this time. Also..Chelsea Vs Barca! how good is that. Bye, bye Chelsea.
The Kop Kid
Senior Squad
Originally posted by hanek45
yeah, but he scores..
how old is Anelka anyways..?
15M Euros for Morientes is fine. I dont see any problem with the amount.
Ive only seen Anelka play once
plus, he might end up being an exelent partner with Xabi Alonso.
Xabi + Gerrard + Morientes
how long is Cisse gonna be injured?
Im starting to follow Liverpool
Well here's a few pointers to help you on your way:
1. When comparing two players it is preferable to have seen BOTH play for more than 90 minutes.
2. I suspect that Morientes will not be partnering Xabi and Stevie in midfield as he is a striker.
The Kop Kid
Senior Squad
Nah, wasn't Ged that wrecked Robbie's career (though he didn't help things any). Injuries were the greatest factor. I think that he is starting to look a bit more like his old self again incidentally, though he's never going to be as good again. I agree with what John Arne said though. We have never really had a 'clever' player up fron who also scores regularly since then. Morientes may be a good foil for Baros or Cisse in that respect, though I'd still rather have Nico.
Enjoy it while it lasts
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It was another classic night of European action at Anfield. Liverpool came from behind to oust Olympiakos and book their place in the knockout stages of the Champions League.
Passage booked, skipper set to stay, a guaranteed cash windfall: surely everything is rosy through the Shankly Gates?
Far from it. Unless something changes quickly Liverpool could face a campaign without any continental action next season.
In the wake of their qualification much of the talk centred on the future of Steven Gerrard. Before the game he had made it clear that the UEFA Cup is not good enough for him as a player, after most fans were happy to talk of how their skipper was to stay.
But Gerrard refuses to commit his future to Liverpool, almost conceding that he will have to leave the club he has always supported in order to win top honours.
'The main point I have made is I want to be in a Liverpool side which challenges for the Champions League and the title all the time,' he said. 'We have to build on wins like this, not just settle for a great win and then not progress any further.'
Forget the newspaper talk about a move in January; that was never on the cards. Gerrard would have been ineligible to play in Europe for another side and as such there was little chance of a winter transfer to a club able to match the England international's ambitions.
So Gerrard will remain a Red until the summer, but that will surely bring the curtain down on his Liverpool career.
In some ways you have to sympathise with Rafael Benitez, a man who has been woefully unlucky with injuries, especially with Djibril Cisse's horrific leg break against Blackburn in October but also the immediate loss of Antonio Nunez and the knocks to Milan Baros and Luis Garcia.
Of course, it could be argued that Benitez left himself short up front when Michael Owen was sold to Real Madrid in August. Nunez could never be seen as a direct replacement or even a back-up to what remained up front, so any injury to his frontline pairing was going to have an impact.
Since Baros was injured while on international duty with the Czech Republic, Liverpool have won only once in the Premiership - against Arsenal, courtesy of Neil Mellor's late strike.
Baros had hit a hat-trick on his previous appearance, although that was a less-then-convincing 3-2 home with over Crystal Palace at Anfield.
Tuesday evening's draw at home to managerless Portsmouth, with Lomano Tresor LuaLua snatching an injury time leveller, means Liverpool have taken just five points out of the last 15 available.
And since Cisse's injury they have picked up only nine from a possible 24 available - far from the sort of form that is going to put a team in contention for European qualification.
The poor run has continued since Baros has come back from his hamstring injury. The defeat to Everton in the Merseyside derby had wider ramifications than any Liverpool fan could have imagined at the start of the season.
The Portsmouth result was a disaster. While Liverpool's form had not been great the game in hand against a side which had won only once on their travels all season looked a home banker. That they didn't pick up maximum points came as a huge body blow.
If Liverpool are going to get back into the Champions League race they have a lot of work to do. The chances of them earning a route back to the big time by winning the trophy are at best slim.
Everton are, unbelievably for a side tipped by so many for relegation, 12 points clear of Liverpool in the lofty heights of second. Manchester United and Arsenal have a cushion of six and ten points respectively, meaning it already looks an almost impossible task for Liverpool to creep into the top four.
Few expect United and Arsenal to make enough slip-ups over the remainder of the season in order for Liverpool to catch them. Which means the Reds may have to rely on the bubble bursting across Stanley Park.
While Everton will be eager to strengthen a winning unit when the transfer window opens in January, with a new quality striker believed to be at the top of the shopping list, Liverpool may well be left to patch up the holes.
And there is a major difference in the transfer tasks that face Benitez and his counterpart David Moyes. While Moyes can search for players in the knowledge he will have no restrictions with regards to eligibility, Benitez will have to find a player who can take part in the latter part of their Champions League campaign. Signing a cup-tied striker would be pure folly.
The lure of Liverpool may be far stronger than that of Everton, but at the same time Moyes can almost scour the market at will.
Liverpool have been strongly linked with Fernando Morientes, but he has played for Real Madrid in the Champions League and looks more likely to return to Monaco. Former Reds loanee Nicolas Anelka, heading for the Manchester City exit door, and Fernando Torres of Atletico Madrid are believed to be on the wishlist.
Benitez will have to negotiate the busy Christmas schedule before he can change anything. By that point the gap to the Toffeemen may have extended yet further as all of their next four games are against sides in the bottom half of the table. In contrast, Liverpool must face both Newcastle United and Chelsea in the next few weeks.
Liverpool's problems are certainly not confined to the forward line. While Gerrard does his best to push the side forward from the centre of the park in the absence of Luis Garcia, the Reds' defence has lost its shape. It is now nine matches since they last kept a clean sheet in the Premiership.
Benitez's infatuation with the zonal system when marking at set-pieces has caused no end of problems, especially away from Anfield, while both Chris Kirkland and Jerzy Dudek have failed to make the goalkeeping position their own.
Kirkland, for so long tipped as the future England number one, had been at fault in recent weeks before his injury hoodoo struck again at the weekend. Dudek was duly recalled but his error gifted Portsmouth their equaliser.
While Anfield may be becoming a place to fear again - the Pompey game was only the second time home points had been dropped this season - Liverpool's away record is woeful. They have lost five of their nine games on the road and have only one victory - at Fulham - to brag about.
And with the emergence of Aston Villa and Middlesbrough as serious contenders in the top half of the table, Liverpool are going to have a lot of work to do simply to finish fifth and qualify for the UEFA Cup.
It may be a case of enjoying this season's Champions League experience with Gerrard as their skipper, as it looks increasingly likely that neither will grace Anfield next season.
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It was another classic night of European action at Anfield. Liverpool came from behind to oust Olympiakos and book their place in the knockout stages of the Champions League.
Passage booked, skipper set to stay, a guaranteed cash windfall: surely everything is rosy through the Shankly Gates?
Far from it. Unless something changes quickly Liverpool could face a campaign without any continental action next season.
In the wake of their qualification much of the talk centred on the future of Steven Gerrard. Before the game he had made it clear that the UEFA Cup is not good enough for him as a player, after most fans were happy to talk of how their skipper was to stay.
But Gerrard refuses to commit his future to Liverpool, almost conceding that he will have to leave the club he has always supported in order to win top honours.
'The main point I have made is I want to be in a Liverpool side which challenges for the Champions League and the title all the time,' he said. 'We have to build on wins like this, not just settle for a great win and then not progress any further.'
Forget the newspaper talk about a move in January; that was never on the cards. Gerrard would have been ineligible to play in Europe for another side and as such there was little chance of a winter transfer to a club able to match the England international's ambitions.
So Gerrard will remain a Red until the summer, but that will surely bring the curtain down on his Liverpool career.
In some ways you have to sympathise with Rafael Benitez, a man who has been woefully unlucky with injuries, especially with Djibril Cisse's horrific leg break against Blackburn in October but also the immediate loss of Antonio Nunez and the knocks to Milan Baros and Luis Garcia.
Of course, it could be argued that Benitez left himself short up front when Michael Owen was sold to Real Madrid in August. Nunez could never be seen as a direct replacement or even a back-up to what remained up front, so any injury to his frontline pairing was going to have an impact.
Since Baros was injured while on international duty with the Czech Republic, Liverpool have won only once in the Premiership - against Arsenal, courtesy of Neil Mellor's late strike.
Baros had hit a hat-trick on his previous appearance, although that was a less-then-convincing 3-2 home with over Crystal Palace at Anfield.
Tuesday evening's draw at home to managerless Portsmouth, with Lomano Tresor LuaLua snatching an injury time leveller, means Liverpool have taken just five points out of the last 15 available.
And since Cisse's injury they have picked up only nine from a possible 24 available - far from the sort of form that is going to put a team in contention for European qualification.
The poor run has continued since Baros has come back from his hamstring injury. The defeat to Everton in the Merseyside derby had wider ramifications than any Liverpool fan could have imagined at the start of the season.
The Portsmouth result was a disaster. While Liverpool's form had not been great the game in hand against a side which had won only once on their travels all season looked a home banker. That they didn't pick up maximum points came as a huge body blow.
If Liverpool are going to get back into the Champions League race they have a lot of work to do. The chances of them earning a route back to the big time by winning the trophy are at best slim.
Everton are, unbelievably for a side tipped by so many for relegation, 12 points clear of Liverpool in the lofty heights of second. Manchester United and Arsenal have a cushion of six and ten points respectively, meaning it already looks an almost impossible task for Liverpool to creep into the top four.
Few expect United and Arsenal to make enough slip-ups over the remainder of the season in order for Liverpool to catch them. Which means the Reds may have to rely on the bubble bursting across Stanley Park.
While Everton will be eager to strengthen a winning unit when the transfer window opens in January, with a new quality striker believed to be at the top of the shopping list, Liverpool may well be left to patch up the holes.
And there is a major difference in the transfer tasks that face Benitez and his counterpart David Moyes. While Moyes can search for players in the knowledge he will have no restrictions with regards to eligibility, Benitez will have to find a player who can take part in the latter part of their Champions League campaign. Signing a cup-tied striker would be pure folly.
The lure of Liverpool may be far stronger than that of Everton, but at the same time Moyes can almost scour the market at will.
Liverpool have been strongly linked with Fernando Morientes, but he has played for Real Madrid in the Champions League and looks more likely to return to Monaco. Former Reds loanee Nicolas Anelka, heading for the Manchester City exit door, and Fernando Torres of Atletico Madrid are believed to be on the wishlist.
Benitez will have to negotiate the busy Christmas schedule before he can change anything. By that point the gap to the Toffeemen may have extended yet further as all of their next four games are against sides in the bottom half of the table. In contrast, Liverpool must face both Newcastle United and Chelsea in the next few weeks.
Liverpool's problems are certainly not confined to the forward line. While Gerrard does his best to push the side forward from the centre of the park in the absence of Luis Garcia, the Reds' defence has lost its shape. It is now nine matches since they last kept a clean sheet in the Premiership.
Benitez's infatuation with the zonal system when marking at set-pieces has caused no end of problems, especially away from Anfield, while both Chris Kirkland and Jerzy Dudek have failed to make the goalkeeping position their own.
Kirkland, for so long tipped as the future England number one, had been at fault in recent weeks before his injury hoodoo struck again at the weekend. Dudek was duly recalled but his error gifted Portsmouth their equaliser.
While Anfield may be becoming a place to fear again - the Pompey game was only the second time home points had been dropped this season - Liverpool's away record is woeful. They have lost five of their nine games on the road and have only one victory - at Fulham - to brag about.
And with the emergence of Aston Villa and Middlesbrough as serious contenders in the top half of the table, Liverpool are going to have a lot of work to do simply to finish fifth and qualify for the UEFA Cup.
It may be a case of enjoying this season's Champions League experience with Gerrard as their skipper, as it looks increasingly likely that neither will grace Anfield next season.
Originally posted by Ebonix
Seriously what is your problem with Liverpool?
I think its really sad that you trowl the internet finding negative reports on Liverpool just to post them on a soccer forum.
LAME!
I don't go searching man, I was surfing epsnsoccernet and the article was in the front page, that's all.
If they post any postive articles about liverpool on the front page, I'll post them as well.
Ebonix
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Originally posted by fh_29
I don't go searching man, I was surfing epsnsoccernet and the article was in the front page, that's all.
Sure man, whatever. I'll believe it when I see it
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