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Gerrard 17

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"I've seen Josemi play a couple of times and "aggressive" is a word that does injustice to him. Easily one of the most violent defenders in La Liga (right up there with Sevilla's duo Javi Navarro and Alfaro and Mallorca's Nadal)... Apart from his violence, I never noticed him particularly because he is not the attacking kind of full back, but defencivelly he is wonderful.

We're going to see some wild tackles."

From xtratime :p
 

0le_Spain

Senior Squad
Originally posted by Gerrard 17
"I've seen Josemi play a couple of times and "aggressive" is a word that does injustice to him. Easily one of the most violent defenders in La Liga (right up there with Sevilla's duo Javi Navarro and Alfaro and Mallorca's Nadal)... Apart from his violence, I never noticed him particularly because he is not the attacking kind of full back, but defencivelly he is wonderful.

We're going to see some wild tackles."

From xtratime :p

aggresive?, the refs in la liga must love him then cause he only got 13 yellows in 41 matches and not a single red card. Unless u mean that he hustles alot.
 

Haukur Gudnason

::President Scouser::
Benitez lands £2.6m Josemi

Tom Simmonds
Sunday July 25, 2004
The Observer

Liverpool have secured the transfer of Spanish defender Josemi from Málaga for £2.6million, according to reports in Spain.

Sports daily Diario AS and Málaga paper Diario Sur both report negotiations were concluded late on Friday and suggest the player will now fly to the United States to join the Liverpool's pre-season tour.

The deal - Rafael Benítez's first signing since he took over at Anfield - could involve El-Hadji Diouf moving in the opposite direction on a long-term loan.

Josemi, able to play at right-back and in the centre of defence, said that the move is good news for both clubs. 'Málaga will make some money in what is a great deal and I go to help one of the top clubs in Europe. Their manager is Spanish, which was another reason for me to move.'

Josemi started his career at his home town club Torremolinos before moving down the coast to Málaga as a teenager. He made 37 league appearances last season.
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Taken from Koptalk:

Liverpool are close to completing the transfer of Josemi, one of the most sought after full backs in Spanish football.

The 24-year-old Malaga player will cost the Reds approximately £2.7million. He is a tough-tackling, no nonsense defender who can also provide width down the right-wing when he pushes forward.

Josemi has agreed personal terms with Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry and is close to putting pen to paper on a 4-year deal. He has left pre-season training with Malaga to complete his medical and to team-up with his new team-mates.

We first reported our interest in Josemi shortly after Benitez was appointed as Gerard Houllier's successor but since then the speculation had cooled. Liverpool managed to keep the deal under wraps until now as Athletico Madrid were also closing in on him. We initially thought details of this deal would break on Thursday and had it not materialised publicly before this Monday, we were going to hold the opinion that it had collapsed.

This will be great signing providing it gets rubber-stamped and at just under £3million it will prove to be a bargain.

The KopTalk Insider exclusively revealed that Rick Parry had jetted out to Spain to try and conclude a deal and we understand that there are bigger fish out there still negotiating with us.

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View of a Barca fan who lives in Spain.

Josemi is a "product" of one of the best youth systems in Spain (Malaga) his first season in Primera Division was the 2001/02, since then he has been a usual player in his team.

He's good in defensive tasks, as you know, he's a right back. Last season he played 41 matches in all the competitions, having 13 yellow cards and 0 red cards. He didn't score a single goal. I think he's more a promising player more than a reality, although he already is 24.

I've never paid much attention to this player and I think he's an average player. In any case, I suppose that Benitez knows him better than me.

In any case, I think he's by now overhyped by your press, because he was considered in Spain, as an average player... at least, I've never heard anyone talking well/bad about thing. One more player, that's all. It's a surprise for me.

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ricardo

Reserve Team
There are certain players who go unnoticed for many supporters and this is one of them. You can't watch many Malaga games even here in Spain unless you buy them, so most of supporters don't have a good knowledge of him. But I read this summer At. Madrid and Betis wanted him, so he can't be very bad ;)
By the way, I didn't see this coming, I thought Benitez wanted another Malaga player, the midfielder Miguel Angel.
 

Gerrard 17

Fan Favourite
Originally posted by lplover2k2
wasn't Cisse's transfer scretive and some surprising transfers as well like Biscan ,Traore,Cheyrou etc.. :D

I hope you're joking because everyone knew Cisse was coming to Liverpool for 2 years.
 

Haukur Gudnason

::President Scouser::
I've not seen anyone post this article yet. This is in response to an earlier 'attempt' by the S*n to apologize, (which was not even worth posting) Thought some of you may be interested to read it:


Marketing Week July 22 2004
“Glare of The Sun puts its olive branch in the shade


The Sun's apology over Hillsborough is little more than a stunt to woo readers in the South. Jingoism, hatred and racism are its core values. By Sean Brierley.

Henry Mencken, the US journalist, once said: "Conscience is the inner voice that warns us that someone might be looking." Two weeks ago The Sun newspaper appeared to have a fit of conscience: it ran a front-page apology for the libel it committed against Liverpool football fans in April 1989, when it had claimed that they had robbed and urinated on the bodies of the victims of the Hillsborough disaster.

The consequence of the Hillsborough debacle has been one of the longest running and most successful brand boycotts in marketing history. The newspaper is still popularly referred to as "The Scum" on the streets of Liverpool today.

The reason for this was not that The Sun ran the story - the Daily Star ran it too; it was the vicious nature of its attack and the fact that for several days it kept the story running despite overwhelming evidence that it was untrue. The people of Liverpool justifiably saw the attack as a revelation of a deeper, real hatred for them. Although the Sun apologised several days later, the damage had been done.

The funniest aspect of the latest "apology” was the wimpish attempt by editor Rebekah Wade to blame former editor Kelvin MacKenzie. While MacKenzie was undeniably responsible for the Hillsborough coverage - he personally wrote the most offensive headlines- The Sun's management at the time took no action against him. In fact, Rupert Murdoch later promoted him to Sky television managing director in 1994.

As with the disaster itself, no one at The Sun was held accountable. Merseysiders correctly interpreted no action being taken as a signal that the newspaper's management did not regard them as important.

In stark contrast, this year the daily Mirror could have faced a boycott over the fake pictures of British soldiers beating Iraqi prisoners. Yet it didn't, because the management acted decisively and demonstrably by sacking Piers Morgan and apologising unreservedly.

But this is much more than an issue about executive responsibility. It gets to the heart of what is actually a branding issue. The reason why MacKenzie was not sacked was because he was merely adhering to his newspaper's own brand values, as he had been for a number of years. Or, as The Sun might say "It weren't MacKenzie wot fu**ed it up, it woz the brand."

The Sun's latest apology was aimed not at Scousers, but at its real heartland: the South-east. It has been rightly interpreted by many in Liverpool as a thinly veiled attempt to advertise the fact that it had secured Wayne Rooney's autobiography. At the same time, it took a pop at Liverpudlians for sustaining their boycott of the newspaper for 15 years, adding further insult to injury with the cheap claim that the city's negative reaction to the Sun-Rooney tie-up had whipped up by the local newspapers owned by commercial rival Trinity Mirror. The direct implication was that the feelings against The Sun were misguided, dubious and insincere.

Hillsborough exposed the myth that The Sun is a "national" newspaper. The "Currant Bun" (the Mockney nickname it gives itself) is the bible of the white-flight belt of Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent and Surrey. Its stock-in-trade is tribalism and a dark-age morality based on kinship and vendetta. But its racist, flag-waving jingoism accurately reflects the values of its core readership.

It has made fanaticism its core brand value: from humiliating Big Brother contestants, celebrities and Swiss referees to rabid rantings against foreigners in general. The Sun has turned this form of mob hatred into its central brand value.

Throughout its history it has demonised defenceless targets: the unemployed and single mothers in the seventies and eighties; refugees today. The references to the World Wars during major football tournaments are, in part, responsible for the rise in hooliganism that we saw in Charleroi and more recently in the Algarve. In typical fashion, the very football hooligans it helps to create it later brands as "scum".

The vicious attacks on Liverpudlians was merely a logical extension of its hate-filled South-eastern core brand values. But in spite of these deep-seated brand problems all is not lost. For purely commercial reasons, if not for ones of conscience, The Sun's management could repair some of the damage on Merseyside.

The families of the 96 victims of the Hillsborough disaster have had no justice. The senior police officers responsible for opening the gates at the Leppings lane end have escaped justice and the families of the victims have never been compensated.

If Wade campaigned for justice for the Hillsborough 96, she might be able to rebuild the newspaper's reputation and prove her Liverpool detractors, and Mencken wrong.

Sean Brierley is a former deputy editor of Marketing Week and author of the Advertising Handbook. “
 

run4783

Youth Team
I am going to be at the Liverpool/Celtic game tomorrow the 26th in Connecticut. If anyone wants to know how that goes apart from reading about it online, let me know.
 

The Kop Kid

Senior Squad
Originally posted by Haukur Gudnason
I've not seen anyone post this article yet. This is in response to an earlier 'attempt' by the S*n to apologize, (which was not even worth posting) Thought some of you may be interested to read it:


Marketing Week July 22 2004
“Glare of The Sun puts its olive branch in the shade


The Sun's apology over Hillsborough is little more than a stunt to woo readers in the South. Jingoism, hatred and racism are its core values. By Sean Brierley.

Henry Mencken, the US journalist, once said: "Conscience is the inner voice that warns us that someone might be looking." Two weeks ago The Sun newspaper appeared to have a fit of conscience: it ran a front-page apology for the libel it committed against Liverpool football fans in April 1989, when it had claimed that they had robbed and urinated on the bodies of the victims of the Hillsborough disaster.

The consequence of the Hillsborough debacle has been one of the longest running and most successful brand boycotts in marketing history. The newspaper is still popularly referred to as "The Scum" on the streets of Liverpool today.

The reason for this was not that The Sun ran the story - the Daily Star ran it too; it was the vicious nature of its attack and the fact that for several days it kept the story running despite overwhelming evidence that it was untrue. The people of Liverpool justifiably saw the attack as a revelation of a deeper, real hatred for them. Although the Sun apologised several days later, the damage had been done.

The funniest aspect of the latest "apology” was the wimpish attempt by editor Rebekah Wade to blame former editor Kelvin MacKenzie. While MacKenzie was undeniably responsible for the Hillsborough coverage - he personally wrote the most offensive headlines- The Sun's management at the time took no action against him. In fact, Rupert Murdoch later promoted him to Sky television managing director in 1994.

As with the disaster itself, no one at The Sun was held accountable. Merseysiders correctly interpreted no action being taken as a signal that the newspaper's management did not regard them as important.

In stark contrast, this year the daily Mirror could have faced a boycott over the fake pictures of British soldiers beating Iraqi prisoners. Yet it didn't, because the management acted decisively and demonstrably by sacking Piers Morgan and apologising unreservedly.

But this is much more than an issue about executive responsibility. It gets to the heart of what is actually a branding issue. The reason why MacKenzie was not sacked was because he was merely adhering to his newspaper's own brand values, as he had been for a number of years. Or, as The Sun might say "It weren't MacKenzie wot fu**ed it up, it woz the brand."

The Sun's latest apology was aimed not at Scousers, but at its real heartland: the South-east. It has been rightly interpreted by many in Liverpool as a thinly veiled attempt to advertise the fact that it had secured Wayne Rooney's autobiography. At the same time, it took a pop at Liverpudlians for sustaining their boycott of the newspaper for 15 years, adding further insult to injury with the cheap claim that the city's negative reaction to the Sun-Rooney tie-up had whipped up by the local newspapers owned by commercial rival Trinity Mirror. The direct implication was that the feelings against The Sun were misguided, dubious and insincere.

Hillsborough exposed the myth that The Sun is a "national" newspaper. The "Currant Bun" (the Mockney nickname it gives itself) is the bible of the white-flight belt of Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent and Surrey. Its stock-in-trade is tribalism and a dark-age morality based on kinship and vendetta. But its racist, flag-waving jingoism accurately reflects the values of its core readership.

It has made fanaticism its core brand value: from humiliating Big Brother contestants, celebrities and Swiss referees to rabid rantings against foreigners in general. The Sun has turned this form of mob hatred into its central brand value.

Throughout its history it has demonised defenceless targets: the unemployed and single mothers in the seventies and eighties; refugees today. The references to the World Wars during major football tournaments are, in part, responsible for the rise in hooliganism that we saw in Charleroi and more recently in the Algarve. In typical fashion, the very football hooligans it helps to create it later brands as "scum".

The vicious attacks on Liverpudlians was merely a logical extension of its hate-filled South-eastern core brand values. But in spite of these deep-seated brand problems all is not lost. For purely commercial reasons, if not for ones of conscience, The Sun's management could repair some of the damage on Merseyside.

The families of the 96 victims of the Hillsborough disaster have had no justice. The senior police officers responsible for opening the gates at the Leppings lane end have escaped justice and the families of the victims have never been compensated.

If Wade campaigned for justice for the Hillsborough 96, she might be able to rebuild the newspaper's reputation and prove her Liverpool detractors, and Mencken wrong.

Sean Brierley is a former deputy editor of Marketing Week and author of the Advertising Handbook. “

I was thinking about posting something about 'the sun' myself after the "apology" came out. I still remember the fallout after the initial, fictitious coverage. Their phony remorse and the way that the piece was worded basically shat all over the memories of the 96 all over again. I wouldn't even wipe my arse on that f*ckin' rag. :kader:
 

Haukur Gudnason

::President Scouser::
Originally posted by The Kop Kid
I was thinking about posting something about 'the sun' myself after the "apology" came out. I still remember the fallout after the initial, fictitious coverage. Their phony remorse and the way that the piece was worded basically shat all over the memories of the 96 all over again. I wouldn't even wipe my arse on that f*ckin' rag. :kader:

The fight for Justice continues.


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Update: Le Tallec has pulled out from the US tour and is now looking to join a club on loan after being told that the gaffer couldnt guarantee him a regular first team place. :confused:

Pompey looking to snap up Dioufy on loan.

Diarra to Lens on loan, agaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain.

Been watching Coloccini and Ayala, I want them both. :D
 

Haukur Gudnason

::President Scouser::
KEEGAN FACING A WRIGHT OFF
by Alan Nixon


MANCHESTER CITY will lose Shaun Wright-Phillips if he is not given a new deal.

And Liverpool are ready to pounce for the future England star.

The player has been waiting on a fresh contract for months and his camp have now told City's money men "pay up or we go". Wright-Phillips was easily Kevin Keegan's best player last season and is tipped to make Sven Goran Eriksson's next England squad as a serious contender for a game.

And Liverpool are on red alert because of the news of the Wright-Phillips crisis - and they even had a spy watching him in a friendly at Bury last week.

Wright-Phillips would be ideal for Anfield where his wing skills and enthusiasm would give their side a new dimension.

The City starlet is happy to stay at the club where he made his name but his agents are tougher negotiators.

They want things sorted out now. City are in a poor position financially but they won't want to lose their diamond.

Wright-Phillips is on a low wage by Premiership standards and even doubling his salary would leave him short of Nicolas Anelka, Robbie Fowler and Steve McManaman.

City fans would agree that that is unfair and they would blame the club if their favourite son falls out over this and has to be sold.

Liverpool would pay around £7 million - or offer swaps. They are also operating within a tight budget but would push theboat out in special cases.

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Oh Aaronnnnnnn (H)
 
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