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The SL Benfica Thread [2007-2008]
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RuiCosta_10
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What a ******* piss poor excuse of a coach that moron is, really, i can't stand that "coitadinho" look on his face any more, i would definitely punch him in the face if he was in front of me, i'm not joking, ******* idiot.
calm down
he's not a brilliant coach but it's not all his fault
benfica had a great squad in the beginnig of the season and it was taken away from f.santos
his plans were screwed by the sells of simão e fernandes, those were two players who would clearly be "titulares indiscutiveis"
and we've got lots of new young players who need time to adapt to the club and portuguese championship
there still players to come and we'll get getter, because getting worse is almost impossible
and there still some injured players
there's much work to be done and we have to patient
he's not a brilliant coach but it's not all his fault
benfica had a great squad in the beginnig of the season and it was taken away from f.santos
his plans were screwed by the sells of simão e fernandes, those were two players who would clearly be "titulares indiscutiveis"
and we've got lots of new young players who need time to adapt to the club and portuguese championship
there still players to come and we'll get getter, because getting worse is almost impossible
and there still some injured players
there's much work to be done and we have to patient
Did you see how we couldn't articulate a play? And FS sitting on the bench watching the game as if there's nothing he can do.. I'm not gonna say it's all his fault but he's clearly not a coach for us.
We don't have time if we are to want to be champions we need to win now. Porto and Sporting are already ahead of us. Jesus even a 2nd division team like Leixões makes Benfica look like ****. Against that type of team, their players earn like 1/10 of what ours do, we should be able to beat them. That is, if the whole team isn't actually standing still, waiting for a miracle to happen. Things must've been planned and organised and yes that's LFV fault too.
The new players that we are yet to see regardless of the season already started, they better be good we had at least 30 Mil € profit from the transfers we made (Simão, M. Fernandes, other players).
About the injuries that's another problem to come up every single year is it not? Coincidence? Why does it always happen in Benfica every year of late? Especially the muscular ones.. Something's wrong in the training method or else Mestre Alves is right
We don't have time if we are to want to be champions we need to win now. Porto and Sporting are already ahead of us. Jesus even a 2nd division team like Leixões makes Benfica look like ****. Against that type of team, their players earn like 1/10 of what ours do, we should be able to beat them. That is, if the whole team isn't actually standing still, waiting for a miracle to happen. Things must've been planned and organised and yes that's LFV fault too.
The new players that we are yet to see regardless of the season already started, they better be good we had at least 30 Mil € profit from the transfers we made (Simão, M. Fernandes, other players).
About the injuries that's another problem to come up every single year is it not? Coincidence? Why does it always happen in Benfica every year of late? Especially the muscular ones.. Something's wrong in the training method or else Mestre Alves is right
RuiCosta_10
Starting XI
Capela, there's no time to calm down...
Last year i wasn't this upset when we were completely humilliated in the first game against Boavista at Bessa, because i was kinda blind, i wanted to be, i didn't wanted to see what i was about to see sooner or later, that he's a mediocre coach! But last year he still had some excuses, adapt the team to a tactic Benfica have never played before, completely fair point there, get to know the players, all in all, Benfica would have to adapt to FS style, that's why we had a terrible start. Still, didn't justify that terrible ending...
This year there aren't excuses! For example, against Leixões we played with 2 different players from last season, if i can recall, that were Luís Filipe and Cardozo.
Well, he can't complain about the "entrosamento" between the players, so how can you explain they didn't even made a single attack combination between them, the only ball possesion we make is between the defense and Petit... It's Petit to Katsouranis, Katsouranis to David Luiz, David Luiz to Petit, Petit to Léo, Léo to Rui Costa, and this is the only one that actually brings the game to the attack.
But i can talk about many things, last year, if Luisão didn't (unfortunately) got injured, we probably wouldn't have David Luiz in the squad right now, you know it... Who knows if it's not happening the same with Andrés Díaz, maybe he's also a good player, his original position is right midfielder, still, he prefered to put Luís Filipe on that position
How f*cked up is that to the player that's on the bench? With what motivation will he enter (if he ever does) on a match? Knowing that the coach doesn't trust him a single bit?
I know that if he continues, after a terrible start we will probably start playing very well, like we did last year, which will give him an O2 balloon, in the end the players will be down phisically, mainly because he doesn't rotate the team. So we make a good start, a terrible end, and that makes us lose all the competitons we are involved at. Exactly like it happened last year.
Let's face it, the man is a disgrace, he can't motivate anyone, hell, even his face isn't inspiring, i miss Camacho's "berros" to the field, we need a Scolari type of coach... Someone who actually motivates them, not the contrary ffs... It's almost painful to watch this guy on the bench, i can't stand him anymore...
And don't ask me to be calm when i see our club going down again for the exact same mistakes of last year! And of course he is not the main guilty of this situation, the man who put him there is! I pay "cotas", some months i spend most of my budget to actually go to Lisbon, i buy merchandising, i won't stand this crap anymore...
And what is bothering me the most is LFV and his demagogue speech, best team of the last 10 years, Simão will only leave for 25M€ (yeah right), M.Fernandes won't leave, Apito Dourado this, Apito Dourado that, buy kits, biggest club of the world, bla bla, bla bla, listen and shut up, don't ever complain about everything, it's his politic. Still forgetting what matters the most for the fans, wins on field! Thank you very much for the financial recovery, but he won't getting my vote in the next elections if he continue doing this stupid mistakes...
PS: Sorry for the long post...
Last year i wasn't this upset when we were completely humilliated in the first game against Boavista at Bessa, because i was kinda blind, i wanted to be, i didn't wanted to see what i was about to see sooner or later, that he's a mediocre coach! But last year he still had some excuses, adapt the team to a tactic Benfica have never played before, completely fair point there, get to know the players, all in all, Benfica would have to adapt to FS style, that's why we had a terrible start. Still, didn't justify that terrible ending...
This year there aren't excuses! For example, against Leixões we played with 2 different players from last season, if i can recall, that were Luís Filipe and Cardozo.
Well, he can't complain about the "entrosamento" between the players, so how can you explain they didn't even made a single attack combination between them, the only ball possesion we make is between the defense and Petit... It's Petit to Katsouranis, Katsouranis to David Luiz, David Luiz to Petit, Petit to Léo, Léo to Rui Costa, and this is the only one that actually brings the game to the attack.
But i can talk about many things, last year, if Luisão didn't (unfortunately) got injured, we probably wouldn't have David Luiz in the squad right now, you know it... Who knows if it's not happening the same with Andrés Díaz, maybe he's also a good player, his original position is right midfielder, still, he prefered to put Luís Filipe on that position
How f*cked up is that to the player that's on the bench? With what motivation will he enter (if he ever does) on a match? Knowing that the coach doesn't trust him a single bit?I know that if he continues, after a terrible start we will probably start playing very well, like we did last year, which will give him an O2 balloon, in the end the players will be down phisically, mainly because he doesn't rotate the team. So we make a good start, a terrible end, and that makes us lose all the competitons we are involved at. Exactly like it happened last year.
Let's face it, the man is a disgrace, he can't motivate anyone, hell, even his face isn't inspiring, i miss Camacho's "berros" to the field, we need a Scolari type of coach... Someone who actually motivates them, not the contrary ffs... It's almost painful to watch this guy on the bench, i can't stand him anymore...
And don't ask me to be calm when i see our club going down again for the exact same mistakes of last year! And of course he is not the main guilty of this situation, the man who put him there is! I pay "cotas", some months i spend most of my budget to actually go to Lisbon, i buy merchandising, i won't stand this crap anymore...
And what is bothering me the most is LFV and his demagogue speech, best team of the last 10 years, Simão will only leave for 25M€ (yeah right), M.Fernandes won't leave, Apito Dourado this, Apito Dourado that, buy kits, biggest club of the world, bla bla, bla bla, listen and shut up, don't ever complain about everything, it's his politic. Still forgetting what matters the most for the fans, wins on field! Thank you very much for the financial recovery, but he won't getting my vote in the next elections if he continue doing this stupid mistakes...
PS: Sorry for the long post...
RuiCosta_10
Starting XI
According to TSF and RR, FS will not train this afternoon already 
:Carlos*o:
:Carlos*o:RuiCosta_10
Starting XI
Capela;2383086 said:
i agree it's late, but "antes tarde do que nunca"
RuiCosta_10
Starting XI
OH YES!
Now, we will see someone giving youths a chance.
Now, we will see someone actually giving instructions during the game.
Now, we will see the players motivated.
Now, we will see order in transfers.
CAMACHO!
Wow, this is great!! I really like Camacho!
But I do feel bad for FS. I know I criticized him and all but it's always bad when you fire a coach after the season begins, it really should've been in the ending of last season so that Camacho could do the pre-season with team. In that sense, even though FS is a coach I dislike he was kinda "burned" this season.
And this is just part of the problem, next thing should be LFV resigning.
I found this in a blog I think it's funny and I agree with it:
Para ser lido tipo Gato Fedorento a imitar Marcelo.
- A saída de Fernando santos é boa para o clube?
-É.
-Mas não resolve tudo.
-Não.
-Mas é bom que ele saia?
-É.
-Mas bom mesmo era que se resolvesse aquela balbúrdia de uma vez?
-Era.
-Mas quem devia resolver vai só mudar de treinador?
-Vai.
-E se vier o Conceiro?
-Hein?
-Ok, e se vier...o Camacho?
-Menos mal.
-Mas não resolve?
-Não.
por P(edro Ribeiro)
But I do feel bad for FS. I know I criticized him and all but it's always bad when you fire a coach after the season begins, it really should've been in the ending of last season so that Camacho could do the pre-season with team. In that sense, even though FS is a coach I dislike he was kinda "burned" this season.
And this is just part of the problem, next thing should be LFV resigning.
I found this in a blog I think it's funny and I agree with it:
Para ser lido tipo Gato Fedorento a imitar Marcelo.
- A saída de Fernando santos é boa para o clube?
-É.
-Mas não resolve tudo.
-Não.
-Mas é bom que ele saia?
-É.
-Mas bom mesmo era que se resolvesse aquela balbúrdia de uma vez?
-Era.
-Mas quem devia resolver vai só mudar de treinador?
-Vai.
-E se vier o Conceiro?
-Hein?
-Ok, e se vier...o Camacho?
-Menos mal.
-Mas não resolve?
-Não.
por P(edro Ribeiro)
RuiCosta_10
Starting XI
Yeah, that blog is amazing!
Honestly, i don't think we can win the championship this season, i mean, it's great to have Camacho, but he lost a whole pre-season to prepare the team, specially when the team is used to the 4-4-2 losango, when he plays 4-4-2 with wingers, also he probably doesn't have the players he want, and the season is beginning, it's hard to buy any player now.
Anyway, Camacho is the right man imo, i hope LFV gives him more than 2 years of contract, hope that he stays and start building something, that mentality that he bring when he first came here.
Honestly, i don't think we can win the championship this season, i mean, it's great to have Camacho, but he lost a whole pre-season to prepare the team, specially when the team is used to the 4-4-2 losango, when he plays 4-4-2 with wingers, also he probably doesn't have the players he want, and the season is beginning, it's hard to buy any player now.
Anyway, Camacho is the right man imo, i hope LFV gives him more than 2 years of contract, hope that he stays and start building something, that mentality that he bring when he first came here.
This guy is awesome. I like his position during the match when his hand hangs on roof's bench and it looks like he'd be in the tram.
Anyway it's pretty weird that you got rid of your coach after one game played in the league and in qualifications. But surely you know what you're doing.
Anyway it's pretty weird that you got rid of your coach after one game played in the league and in qualifications. But surely you know what you're doing.
RuiCosta_10
Starting XI
Anthony;2383192 said:
Haha, yes, i kinda missed that
Anthony;2383192 said:Anyway it's pretty weird that you got rid of your coach after one game played in the league and in qualifications. But surely you know what you're doing.
I wouldn't be so sure of that, i mean, this was a good decision, but it should've been taken way before now! Sometimes our president really doesn't seem to know what he's doing...
RuiCosta_10;2383150 said:
i agree with all of it
i think this season is already lost, but we must have hope on the new coach
if it's camacho he's got 2 options: or he chooses 2 wingers to be bought or he'll have to play in 4x4x2 diamond
and the most important thing is that he stays longer than before so he can build a squad of his own choice and that's acts the way he wants
Moreira_Benfica
Senior Squad
Thank god, one of my happiest days as a benfica supporter that FS is gone! i think it was a bit late because i dont know if Camacho has enough time to buy the players he wants at all but like you said better late then never
RuiCosta_10
Starting XI
Gilles convinced Camacho and will stay on the team, considering some apreciations on the guy on yesterday training he's amazing!
We are also interested in Oubiña, apparently we already have an agreement with the player and with the value of transfer, only missing the way of the payment, 10M€ a pronto, ou em prestações...
He's like Iniesta, in the style of play... According to some opinions.
We are also interested in Oubiña, apparently we already have an agreement with the player and with the value of transfer, only missing the way of the payment, 10M€ a pronto, ou em prestações...
He's like Iniesta, in the style of play... According to some opinions.
RuiCosta_10
Starting XI
Manuel Fernandes might come back