That' s my opinion.....not everyone will agree with it as you guys have demonstrated but then again not everyone has the same opinion. Now, let me phrase it a bit differently.......I just feel that they SHOULD be able to FACE teams like CSKA or even Sporting with a chance to get into the later stages of the tournament. Neither was around EVEN in the quarters ! Even last year...I mean Villareal gets into the semis??? Come on!