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The Wolf 2005 Option File BETA
- Thread starter TristanAbbott7
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thenerdgod
Club Supporter
Wolf: I see what you mean regarding duplicate players... maybe if you have more time for your next release after Jan 31st, you could consider having first initial to distinguish false duplicates
Just spotted another confirmed duplicate:
Van Der Struijk at Willem II that has same stats
Also, I notice many unknown teams have their numbers completely messed up but it doesn't bother me
Just spotted another confirmed duplicate:
Van Der Struijk at Willem II that has same stats
Also, I notice many unknown teams have their numbers completely messed up but it doesn't bother me
TristanAbbott7
Starting XI
Re: Player positions
This appears to be a display problem for some reason as if you go to edit the player you'll see they have their correct positions there and if you highlight them in the edit team section, the correct position players are suggested (highlighted) to replace them in that position.
The FM/CM stats do offer more potential positions than those offered in the default Konami stats. For instance, over the years, Giggs has player as a forward, a central midfielder, an offensive midfielder, a winger and a side midfielder. Many players can slot to different positions if needed and actually when the CPU makes a sub for an inujured player, you don't actually get so many baffling replacements now. For instance, if Man Utd ran out of forwards in real life, they'd put somebody like Ronaldo, Giggs or Scholes up front who have all played forward before. With Konamis subs system the CPU would likely bring in a reserve b-team level player who in reality would not get the starting position.
This appears to be a display problem for some reason as if you go to edit the player you'll see they have their correct positions there and if you highlight them in the edit team section, the correct position players are suggested (highlighted) to replace them in that position.
The FM/CM stats do offer more potential positions than those offered in the default Konami stats. For instance, over the years, Giggs has player as a forward, a central midfielder, an offensive midfielder, a winger and a side midfielder. Many players can slot to different positions if needed and actually when the CPU makes a sub for an inujured player, you don't actually get so many baffling replacements now. For instance, if Man Utd ran out of forwards in real life, they'd put somebody like Ronaldo, Giggs or Scholes up front who have all played forward before. With Konamis subs system the CPU would likely bring in a reserve b-team level player who in reality would not get the starting position.
thenerdgod
Club Supporter
Real Madrid corrections:
Morientes = #8 --swap-- with Borja = #4
Missing:
Javi Garcia (midfielder) (sub for Beckham)
Arbeloa (side back) (sub for salgado)
Note: these players listed have played AND started first team soccer.
Morientes = #8 --swap-- with Borja = #4
Missing:
Javi Garcia (midfielder) (sub for Beckham)
Arbeloa (side back) (sub for salgado)
Note: these players listed have played AND started first team soccer.
TristanAbbott7
Starting XI
Originally posted by thenerdgod
Wolf: I see what you mean regarding duplicate players... maybe if you have more time for your next release after Jan 31st, you could consider having first initial to distinguish false duplicates
Just spotted another confirmed duplicate:
Van Der Struijk at Willem II that has same stats
Also, I notice many unknown teams have their numbers completely messed up but it doesn't bother me
Thanks, just got rid of him. This is why it's a good idea to release a beta to solve these issues first
The squad numbers do need a complete overall especially with all the transfer going on. Might be a good idea to do these at the end of the transfer window.
Scratch-Br
Youth Team
Yes, Abreloa should be in there. Brazilian managers does not like the way european teams play a lot of times... That's why Luxemburgo put real back to the simple 4-4-2... and there was no right back disponible...
I don't know exactly, but Abreloa plays on B Team, don't know if it will stay there or keep playing with the first team.
Wolf, i can help you with french numbers in the end of transfer window... some teams had wrong numbers in it... and the Sochaux forward is just Santos, not F. dos Santos.
I don't know exactly, but Abreloa plays on B Team, don't know if it will stay there or keep playing with the first team.
Wolf, i can help you with french numbers in the end of transfer window... some teams had wrong numbers in it... and the Sochaux forward is just Santos, not F. dos Santos.
Gnidrologist
Youth Team
Sorry Wolf, maybe it's a bit irrelevent but.., have you ever considered to release option file that includes global(aka macro)player stat tweaks?
I believe there's quite a lot of people who would agree that PES4 feels too clumsy, even comical at times. The major problems are:
1) The first touch is awfull - bouncing rubber ball, players pushing/flicking the ball 10 meters away after weak pass, playuers pushing the ball out of bound without a good reason etc.
I think increasing tehnique and response by 10-15 digits for everyone would cure this.
2) Stumbling, shirt tuging, tripping over the ball - I know, modern football is very physical nowdays, but the exaggagerated way it's implemented in Pes4 is over the top. Both humans and AI should be forced to try and win ball using precise and smart tackling/covering and not reduce every struggle to just ''who will win the wrestle this time''.
Increasing balance could help this.
3) Game speed - you may have different views, but if talking facts, Pes4 is too fast compared to real thing. Watch La liga or Seria A, the match tempo is rarely so furious as it's almost all the time in Pes4. Players and CPU should be forced to play smarter, more and much sophisticated passing than just ''kick it, kick it''.
Top speed and acceleration, maybe short pass speed also must be decreased.
Dribble acc. speed should not be changed, it's fine as is.
I already experimented a bit with these ''macro'' changes and found the gameplay more enjoyable than previous. Proffesional footballers now behave more like they should insted of default setting where I got a feeling like I was playing sunday league teams with crap amateurs suffering from hangover.
Just a thought. Hope I haven't earned place in hall of shame.
Oh, and have my gratitude to monstrous work you're doing for community.
I believe there's quite a lot of people who would agree that PES4 feels too clumsy, even comical at times. The major problems are:
1) The first touch is awfull - bouncing rubber ball, players pushing/flicking the ball 10 meters away after weak pass, playuers pushing the ball out of bound without a good reason etc.
I think increasing tehnique and response by 10-15 digits for everyone would cure this.
2) Stumbling, shirt tuging, tripping over the ball - I know, modern football is very physical nowdays, but the exaggagerated way it's implemented in Pes4 is over the top. Both humans and AI should be forced to try and win ball using precise and smart tackling/covering and not reduce every struggle to just ''who will win the wrestle this time''.
Increasing balance could help this.
3) Game speed - you may have different views, but if talking facts, Pes4 is too fast compared to real thing. Watch La liga or Seria A, the match tempo is rarely so furious as it's almost all the time in Pes4. Players and CPU should be forced to play smarter, more and much sophisticated passing than just ''kick it, kick it''.
Top speed and acceleration, maybe short pass speed also must be decreased.
Dribble acc. speed should not be changed, it's fine as is.
I already experimented a bit with these ''macro'' changes and found the gameplay more enjoyable than previous. Proffesional footballers now behave more like they should insted of default setting where I got a feeling like I was playing sunday league teams with crap amateurs suffering from hangover.
Just a thought. Hope I haven't earned place in hall of shame.
Oh, and have my gratitude to monstrous work you're doing for community.
TristanAbbott7
Starting XI
Ok, thanks to Yannick (kschoice) the positions/attributes bug has now been fixed. I have posted a BETA2 version in the first post which shows the corrections.
wolf i think you should release a option file without edited player stats,i was just editing arsenal players boots and van persie was all wrong his stats had dropped significantly and his dominant foot was right but hes left footed,i dont want to have to go through every player defaulting them. also alot of the premiership teams number colours are wrong
all the numbers in the premiership are black or white with the exception of west brom,blackburn and newcastle.
for example norwich's numbers aren't green with yellow short numbers,they are both black,also not all teams in the premiership have curved letters,chelsea for example,teams with new kits have curved letters whereas teams with kits in their second season have straight letters
all the numbers in the premiership are black or white with the exception of west brom,blackburn and newcastle.
for example norwich's numbers aren't green with yellow short numbers,they are both black,also not all teams in the premiership have curved letters,chelsea for example,teams with new kits have curved letters whereas teams with kits in their second season have straight letters
http://footballsquads.com/squads.htm
Squad numbers on there if you want to check, they are quite up to date as well.
Great work but its messed up positions quite badly. Here are the real Charlton positions, I found them when I posted them in one of the old threads. You did fix them in your old option file. Main position is first. Take away any other positions they aren't real at all.
Perry - CB
Hreidarsson - SB CB
Sankofa - CB SB
Fortune - CB
El Karkouri - CBW CB DMF
Kishishev - SB DMF CMF SMF
Stuart - CMF SMF
Sam - SM WF
Konchesky - SM SB
Euell - CMF CF OMF
Lisbie - CF WF
Johansson - CF WF
Hughes - CMF OMF SMF
McCafferty - CMF OMF
Long - CMF
Murphy - CMF OMF SMF
Thomas - SMF WF
Rommedahl - SMF WF
Holland CMF SMF DMF
Fish - CB
Check FM if needed these position are all in FM.
Squad numbers on there if you want to check, they are quite up to date as well.
Great work but its messed up positions quite badly. Here are the real Charlton positions, I found them when I posted them in one of the old threads. You did fix them in your old option file. Main position is first. Take away any other positions they aren't real at all.
Perry - CB
Hreidarsson - SB CB
Sankofa - CB SB
Fortune - CB
El Karkouri - CBW CB DMF
Kishishev - SB DMF CMF SMF
Stuart - CMF SMF
Sam - SM WF
Konchesky - SM SB
Euell - CMF CF OMF
Lisbie - CF WF
Johansson - CF WF
Hughes - CMF OMF SMF
McCafferty - CMF OMF
Long - CMF
Murphy - CMF OMF SMF
Thomas - SMF WF
Rommedahl - SMF WF
Holland CMF SMF DMF
Fish - CB
Check FM if needed these position are all in FM.