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War of the Worlds

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Callum

Guest
I thought the back they came down from space through lightening was freaking awesome.


Also in the movie they mention that in Tokyo they figured out a way to kill the tripods, I would like to know how they did it? They should of elaborated on some ideas.

And I was also wondering why Robbie just walked into the explosions in the first place? What was he on about when he said he had to do something.... then he appears elsewhere. Also they said there were tripods everywhere, so I assume they all died the same way?
 
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Virgo

Guest
I really thought it sucked. I just watched it and I can't think of any way anyone can find this film brilliant. It's a failure as an action movie, it's a failure as a Sci-Fiction, it's a failure as a suspense movie and it's a semi failure as an "Hero" movie considering Tom Cruise's bid to rescue his family, because the plot is almost non existent.
I find it really disturbing that Spielberg managed to make a movie with such poor character density. The only half believable character was Cruise's really.

If this was not a Spielberg movie and didn't star Tom Cruise, it would be completely overlooked. Just look at Signs, a much better movie overall (still not that amazing) and still very overlooked considering the other entries in the Sci-Fi genre.

The only people I think this movie could appeal to strongly are diehard Sci-Fi fans who absolutely loved those Serie B movies made in the 50s and 60s. I can understand that Spielberg tried to do an homage to that kind of movies but that doesn't mean he had to do a film this empty.

I'm happy that Ebert had the guts to say it sucked even if I tend to disagree with his reviews.
 
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IceBlu

Guest
The movie sucked.

It went like this -

Tom Cruise was running around.
Tripods ruined the city with their red sh*t.
Dakota Fanning kept screaming.. that little b*tch
The Tripods died on their own due to the viruses

Gay.
 
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$teauA

Superstar
I just got back from seeing it again. What an awesome movie, it was great even the second time around (Y).

It's pointless to break down the plot like that yash because you can basically do that with ever movie ever made and make it sound stupid. I can totally see however how some people would not like this movie, me I'm more passive on things such as "how did the car survive" and stuff like that but someone who really pays attention to detail well a detail like that would probably ruin the whole movie for them. Also hating Dakota Fanning/Tom Cruise/aliens/Spielberg would also not be a good reason to go see this movie.
 
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Virgo

Guest
Dude this is the only Spielberg movie I consider to be a bad one.

The plot was sh*t, period. No sorry it wasn't sh*t, it was inexistent. This is B movie material all the way, and proudly so because Spielberg doesn't try to hide it.

I didn't even went into the plot holes because there are so many that just isn't even worth to discuss them. And it's not because of the plot holes and the almost complete abscence of it that I don't like it so (C)
 
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Hakeem

Superman
I agree with Steaua, you can trash any movie bgreaking it down like that.

and I dont know what you're talking about with the 'non-existent' plot. there a plot, a simple one, Aliens attack, Cruise and family must survive. simple.

and for me this wasn't any of those genres you mentioned. it wasn't an action movie, its not a suspense movie, and its not a 'hero' movie at all. Tom Cruise is nothing like a hero. the guy is a horrible father who just cares about himself. but of course he's going to take care of his children after they're attacked.

to me this is a survival movie with a sci-fi background. that's why it didn't bother me that I didn't know ANYTHING about the aliens, and why I loved that the movie was told entirely from Tom Cruise's point of view (Y)(Y)(Y)
 
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$teauA

Superstar
Hakeem said:
I agree with Steaua, you can trash any movie bgreaking it down like that.

and I dont know what you're talking about with the 'non-existent' plot. there a plot, a simple one, Aliens attack, Cruise and family must survive. simple.

and for me this wasn't any of those genres you mentioned. it wasn't an action movie, its not a suspense movie, and its not a 'hero' movie at all. Tom Cruise is nothing like a hero. the guy is a horrible father who just cares about himself. but of course he's going to take care of his children after they're attacked.

to me this is a survival movie with a sci-fi background. that's why it didn't bother me that I didn't know ANYTHING about the aliens, and why I loved that the movie was told entirely from Tom Cruise's point of view (Y)(Y)(Y)
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yup (Y)
 
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Virgo

Guest
Hakeem said:
to me this is a survival movie with a sci-fi background. that's why it didn't bother me that I didn't know ANYTHING about the aliens, and why I loved that the movie was told entirely from Tom Cruise's point of view (Y)(Y)(Y)
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so? They had to tell it from someone's point of view and that doesn't make the film better.

And YES you can do that with any movie if you overlook the other gazillion things that happen between and all the subplots. The fact is this movie has no subplots, no character depth and a very simple plot that any 12 year old could write if told to write a story about a family running away from alien invaders.

and man if I didn't mind all this, the abscence of a decent plot, a good background story, mory character depth, and just enjoyed the movie as a good survival, suspense movie... I wouldn't think I could find any way to call this movie brilliant, because it just isn't, it's a fun movie if you like the genre and that's about it. I would forget about this instantly if this wasn't Spielberg's first major failure since Hook.
 
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Joe Star

Starting XI
The show was pretty good.......albeit some of the flaws mentioned previously. It sure better than previous alien invasion shows (Y). I mean there were no hair-brained, half-witted hollywood style alien killing ideas & all(apart from Tom & the grenades (H) ). & i really dont know what you expected from it virgo.....2 hours seems to be pretty short time for subplots etc etc. I in fact enjoyed the whole running away part instead of having your typical macho alien-ass kicking hero. All round it was a good watch :)
 
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Virgo

Guest
I was expecting a Spielberg's style of movie. He's made two Sci-Fi masterpieces in A.I. and Minority Report before, although he almost managed to ruin A.I. for me with that ending.

Instead I got a lame sci-fi movie which I even had trouble finding entertainment and in which I couldn't connect to the characters in any way.
I'd rather see something like Independence Day really. Yeah it's crap but at least it's entertaining crap. Like a McDonald's meal, you know it's sh*t but it tastes good.
 
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Deutschland

Starting XI
Virgo said:
Like a McDonald's meal, you know it's sh*t but it tastes good.
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*cough*

I think this movie was too good for you. It happens. Sometimes a movie is just SOO awesome that people can't appreciate it. (H)
 
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ngyc

Fan Favourite
Deutschland said:
*cough*

I think this movie was too good for you. It happens. Sometimes a movie is just SOO awesome that people can't appreciate it. (H)
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this is better than people come out from the cinema and said: "damn, this movie is lame compare to ID4"
 
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donovan929

Reserve Team
IceBlu said:
The movie sucked.

It went like this -

Tom Cruise was running around.
Tripods ruined the city with their red sh*t.
Dakota Fanning kept screaming.. that little b*tch
The Tripods died on their own due to the viruses

Gay.
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The best summary ever^^. Thats all it was and wasn't anything better. Four stars my ass!
 
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Virgo

Guest
Deutschland said:
*cough*

I think this movie was too good for you. It happens. Sometimes a movie is just SOO awesome that people can't appreciate it. (H)
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sure it's just too awesome for me, I like my movies good but not awesome. :rofl:

If you had said too smart I could probably understand what you meant. But of course this film isn't smart at all, it's mindless fun for those who appreciated it, it was mindless torture for me.

A movie too smart would be Adaptation, which is too smart for it's own good. You can enjoy it without having full comprehension of the screenplay but it's only when you get all of it that you can enjoy it to the fullest.

However, people tend to call masterpieces to films they don't understand like Mulholland Dr. though, wether they're good or not. Most just say it's genius work because they don't want to seem stupid in front of their friends who do exactly the same.
 
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INFESTA

Official
Hakeem said:
and for me this wasn't any of those genres you mentioned. it wasn't an action movie, its not a suspense movie, and its not a 'hero' movie at all.
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Of course not: it's a serie B sci-fi movie. And if you look at it with this in mind you probably get the best B series effort ever, otherwise it just plainly sucks.
 
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Hakeem

Superman
Virgo said:
However, people tend to call masterpieces to films they don't understand like Mulholland Dr. though, wether they're good or not. Most just say it's genius work because they don't want to seem stupid in front of their friends who do exactly the same.
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.. or Donnie Darko :p
 
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