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WC Matchday 17: [GER v ENG] + [ARG v MEX]
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Xifio;2897617 said:
Yes, because not giving a goal in a ball that crossed the line is excellent refereeing. I know it was a tough call, but it doesn't make it a good decision. Being understandable doesn't make it any less of a mistake.
As for the linesman, it seems to be clear to me that he has seen the replay on the screen at the stadium. ESPN in Brazil showed a video of the stadium screen with the play on it, with the grey offside thingy.
Great move by Chicharito... finally showcasing his abilities.
I hope Germany rapes Argentina.
I didn't say it was a good decision, I said it was not a case of bad officiating -- because the positions (physically) of the linesman and ref cannot be faulted, and thus neither can the decision ... but it is certainly a case for extra goal-line officials, or video replays, which clearly won't take more than a few seconds to verify ...Kibe Kru;2897645 said:
yeah, and you could see the players pointing too ... just don't understand what he could be talking to the linesman about, because if the linesman believed it wasn't offside, and the ref gives the goal, then are they discussing the replay that they saw on the screen? coz if they realized their mistake at that point, and their hands were tied coz they couldn't do anything about it based on the replay, it would be the second case-in-point (for two very different reasons) for TV reviews ...Kibe Kru;2897645 said:
MaestroZidane
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Two big games affected by Ref decisions... Yeah, the score line was decisive and Germany and Argentina are good, but you can't deny the fact that those goals really affected England and Mexico.
Hopefully these mistakes are not repeated..
Hopefully these mistakes are not repeated..
Recrero152
Reserve Team
Referees were terrible today, I hope we see better tomorrow.
Xifio;2897665 said:
If we assume the linesman did spot the offside position before the replay, the controversy would be bigger still... If FIFA doesn't want TV replays, then they should ban replays on the stadium screens, because it puts refs into an awful position of realising they messed up while they still can somehow "make up" for it...
Agree. Takes the gloss off any win when all the attention is given to the refs.MaestroZidane;2897667 said:
England haven't shown anything to warrant them being tagged as serious contenders, Mexico on the other hand have at times played scintillating football and I do feel for them, but at this level teams just can't afford to lose their composure everytime they get a bad call.
ShiftyPowers;2897446 said:
I actually agree with him. England could have done way better than they did in handling the situation, but with 2-2 the situation would be different. I’m not saying they wouldn’t commit mistakes (they did a lot when it was 0-0), but I’m pretty sure the match would evolve in a very different fashion with 2-2. England was better than Germany in those final moments of the first half, who knows what could have happened...
I’m not pissed off with Germany’s victory or England’s loss, I’m pissed off because I ended up watching a match completely ****ed up by the referee – I mean, it was very enjoyable, but it was supposed to be different.
Similar thing about Argentina-Mexico, that stupid offside goal took the Mexicans out of balance, and they were the better side when Tevez scored. Now I’m afraid Brazil will get some refereeing help on their matches (we always do).
Of course we’re all kind of used to it, and I will eventually chill about it, but I always get angry with errors like these, even when they favour the team I’m supporting – which was the case on both matches today. (By the way, many people here in Brazil couldn’t accept that I disliked Luis Fabiano’s goal against Côte d’Ivoire, but I just can’t really enjoy an illegal move like that – and what was the referee talking and smiling to him? It was beautiful, but it was illegal.)
MelvinSmiley
Reserve Team
Of course we’re all kind of used to it, and I will eventually chill about it, but I always get angry with errors like these, even when they favour the team I’m supporting – which was the case on both matches today. (By the way, many people here in Brazil couldn’t accept that I disliked Luis Fabiano’s goal against Côte d’Ivoire, but I just can’t really enjoy an illegal move like that – and what was the referee talking and smiling to him? It was beautiful, but it was illegal.)[/QUOTE]
I think the ref asked him, if he used his arm. Luis Fabiano denied, and the smile of the ref gave me the feeling, he knew better. Very strange.
I think the ref asked him, if he used his arm. Luis Fabiano denied, and the smile of the ref gave me the feeling, he knew better. Very strange.
MelvinSmiley
Reserve Team
Elber2k3;2897652 said:
Now i understand it.....4 years ago it was douchebag Xavier Naidoo, now its wannabe-gangsta-still-bringing-his-laundry-to-his-mommie jerk Bushido. I´d be very angry too and run the field up and down 90 minutes, if i had to listen to this crap.
Interesting stuff with the mass discussion after Argentina's first goal. Apparently the replays got shown on the big screen in the stadium.
If the linesman knew it shouldn't have been a goal from the big screen he should have BSed, called offside himself and told the ref when they spoke afterwards.
Sure he's not 'allowed' to use the video to make a decision but he could easily lie his way out of that and he would have made the RIGHT decision too which would also work in his favour.
If he really did see the replays... He just had to decide whether he wanted to be a sad little FIFA jobsworth or give the game a fair decision he knew was correct. That's on him.
If the linesman knew it shouldn't have been a goal from the big screen he should have BSed, called offside himself and told the ref when they spoke afterwards.
Sure he's not 'allowed' to use the video to make a decision but he could easily lie his way out of that and he would have made the RIGHT decision too which would also work in his favour.
If he really did see the replays... He just had to decide whether he wanted to be a sad little FIFA jobsworth or give the game a fair decision he knew was correct. That's on him.