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WCQ: Holland-Finland [P+R]

dannyeli

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Van Basten said that he doesn't want him. :( Van Basten doesn't like the way seedorf play i guess.

But Vagegast can give you more info about it.
 

mhflierman

Starting XI
Originally posted by dannyeli
Van Basten said that he doesn't want him. :( Van Basten doesn't like the way seedorf play i guess.

But Vagegast can give you more info about it.

There is no doubt about Seedorf's qualities. He's played in three CL finals and won three, so that speaks for itself. The problem with Seedorf is that he doesn't do what he's told to.

He has hardly ever played a good game in the national team. What good will it do to call him up again if Hiddink, Rijkaard, Van Gaal and Advocaat/Van Hanegem couldn't get him to play a decent game? Seedorf just has to do what he's being told to do and he should stop playing for himself.

At Milan there must be people (midfielders like Gatusso?) covering his ass I guess, but the way Holland plays, Seedorf is a major risk to your defence, because he doesn't track down his opponent coming from midfield, leaving the defence with a "man more" situation.
 

djperthglory

Starting XI
i feel that macedonia really sent a shockwave through the dutch. the dutch will be looking to bounce back after papers have said that it is one of their worst results ever. so like england did against macedonia a couple yrs ago, bouncing back from embarassment, holland should do this time around 2-0 for me. ruud to score both!!
 

Zlatan

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Originally posted by Amdy Faye
A few changes from the Euro team then eh

Do you prefer the current set up Vagegast?

No VDV eh. Does Collins John ever get called up by the way?

The euro team only won once in the hole f****** tournament. Talking about overrated.

VDV is utter crap ATM. It's hard to say, as I'm one of his biggest fans, but it's the damn reality.
 

Vagegast

Banned for Life [He likes P. Diddy]
Originally posted by dannyeli
Van Basten said that he doesn't want him. :( Van Basten doesn't like the way seedorf play i guess.

But Vagegast can give you more info about it.
Basically he said that Seedorf didn't want to play the way the former coaches (Advocaat, van Gaal, Rijkaard, Hiddink) wanted him too and some of 'em advised van Basten on Seedorf.

I think it's van Basten's way to deflate some egos and he'll be selected at the last moment. I love Seedorf (just got a Milan jersey with his name on the back :mrpimp: ) and his style of play.. the real problem is that when he plays for Oranje, he forgets to defend. He lets him man just walk. Oranje and Milan are different but I don't think he recognizes that.

He really led during EURO 2004 and carried the team in Portugal and during the match vs. Scotland. I have mixed feelings about it.


Starting XI according to VI:

GK: Van der Sar
D: De Jong, Heitinga, Cocu, Bouma
M: Landzaat, Sneijder, Davids
A: Castelen, Van Nistelrooy, Kuijt

Hmm. Doel: Van der Sar.
Verdediging: De Jong, Heitinga, Cocu, Bouma.
Middenveld: Landzaat, Sneijder, Davids.
Aanval: Castelen, Van Nistelrooy, Kuijt.

I would've liked a switch to 4-4-2 with Makaay and RvN :(
 

acmilan101

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Life Ban
That goal was fantastic.

The Finland attacker lobbed van der Sar and the ball bounced off the crossbar into the path of a very strong diving header. Straight in the back of the net. Very nice.

I'm watching it and I think it's just a matter of time before Holland equalises. It may end a draw though, depends how long Finnish defence can hold off the likes of van Nistelrooy and Sneijder.
 

acmilan101

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hahaha, now it is 2-1 to Holland. RvN!

Who were the two players I said Finland had to take care of, again? (H)
 

Lean

Fan Favourite
Can anyone tell me what's up with Robben? Is he injured or something? What the hell happened to this guy, he was so class in the Euro.
 

mhflierman

Starting XI
Originally posted by Vagegast
Basically he said that Seedorf didn't want to play the way the former coaches (Advocaat, van Gaal, Rijkaard, Hiddink) wanted him too and some of 'em advised van Basten on Seedorf.

I think it's van Basten's way to deflate some egos and he'll be selected at the last moment. I love Seedorf (just got a Milan jersey with his name on the back :mrpimp: ) and his style of play.. the real problem is that when he plays for Oranje, he forgets to defend. He lets him man just walk. Oranje and Milan are different but I don't think he recognizes that.

He really led during EURO 2004 and carried the team in Portugal and during the match vs. Scotland. I have mixed feelings about it.


Starting XI according to VI:

GK: Van der Sar
D: De Jong, Heitinga, Cocu, Bouma
M: Landzaat, Sneijder, Davids
A: Castelen, Van Nistelrooy, Kuijt

Hmm. Doel: Van der Sar.
Verdediging: De Jong, Heitinga, Cocu, Bouma.
Middenveld: Landzaat, Sneijder, Davids.
Aanval: Castelen, Van Nistelrooy, Kuijt.

I would've liked a switch to 4-4-2 with Makaay and RvN :(

You ******* ****! :f***: You've basically just copied what I've said, and now yer trying to impress everyone with your so called knowledge. Bitch.

(H)

Anyway, we're 2-1 up. Entertaining game,. I hope we score some more. 4-1 would be nice. 2 More goals by Ruud please,
 

adnan2850

Red Card - CØCKSUCKER [Exp.: Never...Ever!]
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61' Rafael van der Vaart is down injured for the Netherlands after team-mate Nigel de Jong smashed the ball into his face.

that idiot :f***: :f***: :f***:
 

dannyeli

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Holland won :fluffy:

and mhflierman i know what you mean with Gattuso ar Milan, but you can make that case with Cocu and Davids. But yeah he has played at best 3 or 4 very good games. :(
 

Hopeunited

Starting XI
:rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

What a shot by Sneijder, that was pure rocket, I dont think Niemi with Buffon and Kahn behind him would even stop it. It was such a sweeeeet goal...

Great goal by Finland too, a sweet powerful header.


Yay Holland! (H)
 


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