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WE7 vs FIFA 2004

mihalll

Reserve Team
Originally posted by Lex_Zhuravlov
One time on TV I heard that two gay guys from Konami corporation were videotaping their sick relationship. I am talking about sexual act. So how everyone of you knows, Konami president is transexual, thats why he wanted to put some of this "action" in to the game. Thats why Konami's WE has so stange celebration. So next time when you will score the goal, think... is you trully want to look at the "celebration" of this "players". Or you just a sick gay person.

P.S. you could lost this thought just by puting your W.E. in to the trash and start to play non gay game called FIFA

wow...maybe they should put it on the game box...

THE ONLY AND ULTIMATE NON GAY SOCCER SIMULATION!

DON'T BE GAY! BUY FIFA NOW!
 

mapliopl

Youth Team
GAY robotic FOOTBALL = WE

Besides the homo celebrations, I can just think about Konami laughing at us everytime we buy or play the game, because they have the resources to create a superb game, but they only concentrate on minor adjustments.

Instead of the minute long gayish goal celebrations, why not spend less time animating that crap and making the animations of players running look less robotic?

Too bad for Konami...

I do like the gameplay though, but I still think they make too much money every year and they just stock up the money to upgrade metal gear solid and silent hill... while WE just gets "bandanas" , facial expressions. Funny, but true...

WE buyers, including me, should think twice now with FIFA creating a much better gameplay for 2004. THINK people, THINK!!
 

NickSCFC

Club Supporter
I think the manual passing might ruin it though. Official PS2 Mag weren't impressed,they should have built on FIFA 2003 instead.
 

mihalll

Reserve Team
Re: GAY robotic FOOTBALL = WE

Originally posted by mapliopl

WE buyers, including me, should think twice now with FIFA creating a much better gameplay for 2004.

How the **** can you tell FIFA has better gameplay? Maybe you've spend too much time listening this black guy from EA on their pathetic commercials?

Year after year I hoped ea will improve the gameplay but I gave up. If you still believe them you're simply an idiot. If WE is robotic then FIFA is like...I dont know. The way they're shooting or passing in FIFA (including 2004) is just comical. It's not acceptable for anyone who watches/plays real football. WE looks like football and FIFA is like a new game made up by this Canadian jerks.

Originally posted by mapliopl

THINK people, THINK!!

thats what your doctor says?
 

mapliopl

Youth Team
Have you played FIFA 2004?

Obviously you have a very deep knowledge of FIFA's gameplay, since you criticize it so much...

I haven't played 2004 or WE7 yet, so I can only speak from the videos...

I know Fifa 2003 sucks like deep cr@p, but I'm not so sure about 2004.

I'm more concerned about the load of money konami makes with people like you that are just like licking their @**es so much you hate when someone finds problems with the game.

I love WE's gameplay, but I'd prefer the graphics to be worked on way better. Tell me the goalie jumping doesn't look like a robot... if you can honestly tell me he doesn't, than you may be the one whose doctor is always saying...

think!!

Don't be so gullible to not demand some major upgrade from konami... otherwise, paying $50 or howmuchever in £ every year to add 360's and "bandanas" and a few other teams to the game without even concerning about better animation, gives konami a load of money which they just sit on it and don't make a good end product because you don't demand it.

I'm not saying WE sucks... It doesn't, but it could be at least twice as better as it is right now.

That's all.
 

Hans

How big is YOUR penis?
Of course FIFA 2004 is better, their development teams work months and spent lots of cash to add perfection into player`s teeth . . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

-Profutbol-

Club Supporter
I AM PLAYING WINNING ELEVEN 7!!!!! ,and the animation is great ,gameplay is great as alway ,and i really like maual walls ,or 1-2 or whatever you call them.They are more realistic that way.
If you play futbol ,watch futbol you should know that the moves arent robotic.
The only thimg that is questionable is the damn licenses I WANT THEM!!!!
And the guy who is talking about the gay programmers and gay celebrations .....YOU ARE AN IDIOT ..maybe you are the gay ,thats why it matters to you.
 

mapliopl

Youth Team
i don't even know why I'm replying to you

Just if you feel comfortable looking at those animations then how can I be the gay? If you don't bother, how does that tell you anything?

I just think if WE is so realistic as you say, then make celebrations realistic... make chants realistic... make refs be on the pitch... have no frozen players when ball is not in play... and the list goes on.

I can't stress this enough... WE's gameplay: great... animations and some other details: suck.

Why can't I request better graphics if I'm investing my money in konami? if you think it's fine, than you are the idiot, cause they suck your money and you thank them...
 

Ian84

Youth Team
Originally posted by Hans
Of course FIFA 2004 is better, their development teams work months and spent lots of cash to add perfection into player`s teeth . . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
again..teeth than can guarantee you to enter the holy heaven..lol
 

mihalll

Reserve Team
Re: Have you played FIFA 2004?

Originally posted by mapliopl
Obviously you have a very deep knowledge of FIFA's gameplay, since you criticize it so much...

I haven't played 2004 or WE7 yet, so I can only speak from the videos...

I know Fifa 2003 sucks like deep cr@p, but I'm not so sure about 2004.

I'm more concerned about the load of money konami makes with people like you that are just like licking their @**es so much you hate when someone finds problems with the game.

I love WE's gameplay, but I'd prefer the graphics to be worked on way better. Tell me the goalie jumping doesn't look like a robot... if you can honestly tell me he doesn't, than you may be the one whose doctor is always saying...

think!!

Don't be so gullible to not demand some major upgrade from konami... otherwise, paying $50 or howmuchever in £ every year to add 360's and "bandanas" and a few other teams to the game without even concerning about better animation, gives konami a load of money which they just sit on it and don't make a good end product because you don't demand it.

I'm not saying WE sucks... It doesn't, but it could be at least twice as better as it is right now.

That's all.

I can SEE on the VIDS the players movement is comical so I don't even have to play the demo... I've been playing FIFA since 97 but now I give up...
 

tinytim

Youth Team
I don't think so...I just saw images of FIFA, but they're so much better than 2003...that's y I say FIFA 2003 it's a beta version of 2004...the animations available, the response and specially...the game PACE...is so much more realistic than Weleven...the pitch size, and etc...

WEleven 7 it is cool indeed...but sometimes, u get the feeling ur playing Sega's Virtua Striker...player's animations are so fluid, so liquid...the ball phisics it's extremely unreal...it looks like a plastic, child's ball...u can notice from videos how much more real FIFA's ball it is...u can cut and dribble so easily in Weleven 7, that it seems playing are gliding...

other thing...the pace, like I said, for any game, any match it's extremely fast...every friendly, every League match it's like a Final match...u can't really make a rhytmic play...slowind down, watch your team mate and make a long pass...u have to think fast...it's like a real game, yeah, but like a Sub-20 game...everybody running, fast, sweating...snapping actions...it isn't unreal, but football it isn't always like that...specially depend on the scheme u chose for ur team...

In the other hand, u can do all that in FIFA 2004...and the best thing about it is...u can notice from videos, pics and interviews, that this version it is evoluting day by day...a thing that I reaallly doub it happens with any other football simulation...

FIFA 2004 it's coming greatly increased, while WEleven didn't reaaally present big new things...just someones with a cosmetic effect, and other ones, obligatory (like players animations getting increased and enhanced)...

people here in Brazil use to say that FIFA it's a arcade game and WEleven a true simulation - I think exactly the opposite...people say it about FIFA because of the scores (which was really ridiculous...your defense and CPU's are so extremely easy to beat in FIFA 2003)...but for me, FIFA has always meant to be more real...and less cool than WEleven...and vice versa...the only problem with FIFA, it's that FIFA didn't have some resources...on player control and teams...there were few animations available for players, if compared even with PS1's WEleven...

but everybody can notice how different this is in 2k4's case...many WEleven fans claim that it has a better gameplay, because of the control u can get over the player ur handling, but I guess gameplay it's a sum of controlling ur player and ur team...and how CPU behaves on it too...a thing that never existed in WEleven...ur always attacked by the forwards only...u barely see variations of side defenders invading ur penalty box, or defensive midfielders swaping positons in the attack with forwards or offensive midfielders...what plently happens in FIFA 2003, for example...and it's gonna get improved on FIFA 2004...

and...don't forget it...WEleven was released in August and FIFA, well, pratically November...they had plenty of time and a 70% game ready in that moment, so they could work hard, like...hmmm...maybe 10hrs/6 days (?)...hehehe...to get all the other features they had in mind already and those ones WEleven didn't bring...like some dribbles, special movements and even tactical options not present in Weleven...

fella...they know about how successfull WEleven is, and what path theyshould follow if they wanna kick Weleven from the trone...u can get it from interviews in EA's 'making of' site...besides, WEleven it's on the top for a long time now, since PS1's version...they can't afford that situation anymore, or FIFA series will die...they can't survive only by the die-hard FIFA fans...

if u wanna try a cool football simulator, essential...play Weleven 7...but if u wanna feel like playing an important match in Europe, or Sunday afternoon League game in Brazil, play FIFA 2004...I'm totally sure that what we saw until now it's just a scratch about what FIFA is going to offer...oh and that excites me...a thing that all the announced new stuff in WEleven 7 didn't...and just to remember, I'm really an impartial football simulator lover...I'm here for the first time, and the past FIFA versions, well...didn't please me...no way...

I think I play videogame for a long to get a feeling in my gut that says when this or that is gonna be good or not...specially on football, my fave sport, and people's general everyday talk in my country...
I don't think so...I just saw images of FIFA, but they're so much better than 2003...that's y I say FIFA 2003 it's a beta version of 2004...the animations available, the response and specially...the game PACE...is so much more realistic than Weleven...the pitch size, and etc...

WEleven 7 it is cool indeed...but sometimes, u get the feeling ur playing Sega's Virtua Striker...player's animations are so fluid, so liquid...the ball phisics it's extremely unreal...it looks like a plastic, child's ball...u can notice from videos how much more real FIFA's ball it is...u can cut and dribble so easily in Weleven 7, that it seems playing are gliding...

other thing...the pace, like I said, for any game, any match it's extremely fast...every friendly, every League match it's like a Final match...u can't really make a rhytmic play...slowind down, watch your team mate and make a long pass...u have to think fast...it's like a real game, yeah, but like a Sub-20 game...everybody running, fast, sweating...snapping actions...it isn't unreal, but football it isn't always like that...specially depend on the scheme u chose for ur team...

In the other hand, u can do all that in FIFA 2004...and the best thing about it is...u can notice from videos, pics and interviews, that this version it is evoluting day by day...a thing that I reaallly doub it happens with any other football simulation...

FIFA 2004 it's coming greatly increased, while WEleven didn't reaaally present big new things...just someones with a cosmetic effect, and other ones, obligatory (like players animations getting increased and enhanced)...

people here in Brazil use to say that FIFA it's a arcade game and WEleven a true simulation - I think exactly the opposite...people say it about FIFA because of the scores (which was really ridiculous...your defense and CPU's are so extremely easy to beat in FIFA 2003)...but for me, FIFA has always meant to be more real...and less cool than WEleven...and vice versa...the only problem with FIFA, it's that FIFA didn't have some resources...on player control and teams...there were few animations available for players, if compared even with PS1's WEleven...

but everybody can notice how different this is in 2k4's case...many WEleven fans claim that it has a better gameplay, because of the control u can get over the player ur handling, but I guess gameplay it's a sum of controlling ur player and ur team...and how CPU behaves on it too...a thing that never existed in WEleven...ur always attacked by the forwards only...u barely see variations of side defenders invading ur penalty box, or defensive midfielders swaping positons in the attack with forwards or offensive midfielders...what plently happens in FIFA 2003, for example...and it's gonna get improved on FIFA 2004...

and...don't forget it...WEleven was released in August and FIFA, well, pratically November...they had plenty of time and a 70% game ready in that moment, so they could work hard, like...hmmm...maybe 10hrs/6 days (?)...hehehe...to get all the other features they had in mind already and those ones WEleven didn't bring...like some dribbles, special movements and even tactical options not present in Weleven...

fella...they know about how successfull WEleven is, and what path theyshould follow if they wanna kick Weleven from the trone...u can get it from interviews in EA's 'making of' site...besides, WEleven it's on the top for a long time now, since PS1's version...they can't afford that situation anymore, or FIFA series will die...they can't survive only by the die-hard FIFA fans...

if u wanna try a cool football simulator, essential...play Weleven 7...but if u wanna feel like playing an important match in Europe, or Sunday afternoon League game in Brazil, play FIFA 2004...I'm totally sure that what we saw until now it's just a scratch about what FIFA is going to offer...oh and that excites me...a thing that all the announced new stuff in WEleven 7 didn't...and just to remember, I'm really an impartial football simulator lover...I'm here for the first time, and the past FIFA versions, well...didn't please me...no way...

I think I play videogame for a long to get a feeling in my gut that says when this or that is gonna be good or not...specially on football, my fave sport, and people's general everyday talk in my country...
I don't think so...I just saw images of FIFA, but they're so much better than 2003...that's y I say FIFA 2003 it's a beta version of 2004...the animations available, the response and specially...the game PACE...is so much more realistic than Weleven...the pitch size, and etc...

WEleven 7 it is cool indeed...but sometimes, u get the feeling ur playing Sega's Virtua Striker...player's animations are so fluid, so liquid...the ball phisics it's extremely unreal...it looks like a plastic, child's ball...u can notice from videos how much more real FIFA's ball it is...u can cut and dribble so easily in Weleven 7, that it seems playing are gliding...

other thing...the pace, like I said, for any game, any match it's extremely fast...every friendly, every League match it's like a Final match...u can't really make a rhytmic play...slowind down, watch your team mate and make a long pass...u have to think fast...it's like a real game, yeah, but like a Sub-20 game...everybody running, fast, sweating...snapping actions...it isn't unreal, but football it isn't always like that...specially depend on the scheme u chose for ur team...

In the other hand, u can do all that in FIFA 2004...and the best thing about it is...u can notice from videos, pics and interviews, that this version it is evoluting day by day...a thing that I reaallly doub it happens with any other football simulation...

FIFA 2004 it's coming greatly increased, while WEleven didn't reaaally present big new things...just someones with a cosmetic effect, and other ones, obligatory (like players animations getting increased and enhanced)...

people here in Brazil use to say that FIFA it's a arcade game and WEleven a true simulation - I think exactly the opposite...people say it about FIFA because of the scores (which was really ridiculous...your defense and CPU's are so extremely easy to beat in FIFA 2003)...but for me, FIFA has always meant to be more real...and less cool than WEleven...and vice versa...the only problem with FIFA, it's that FIFA didn't have some resources...on player control and teams...there were few animations available for players, if compared even with PS1's WEleven...

but everybody can notice how different this is in 2k4's case...many WEleven fans claim that it has a better gameplay, because of the control u can get over the player ur handling, but I guess gameplay it's a sum of controlling ur player and ur team...and how CPU behaves on it too...a thing that never existed in WEleven...ur always attacked by the forwards only...u barely see variations of side defenders invading ur penalty box, or defensive midfielders swaping positons in the attack with forwards or offensive midfielders...what plently happens in FIFA 2003, for example...and it's gonna get improved on FIFA 2004...

and...don't forget it...WEleven was released in August and FIFA, well, pratically November...they had plenty of time and a 70% game ready in that moment, so they could work hard, like...hmmm...maybe 10hrs/6 days (?)...hehehe...to get all the other features they had in mind already and those ones WEleven didn't bring...like some dribbles, special movements and even tactical options not present in Weleven...

fella...they know about how successfull WEleven is, and what path theyshould follow if they wanna kick Weleven from the trone...u can get it from interviews in EA's 'making of' site...besides, WEleven it's on the top for a long time now, since PS1's version...they can't afford that situation anymore, or FIFA series will die...they can't survive only by the die-hard FIFA fans...

if u wanna try a cool football simulator, essential...play Weleven 7...but if u wanna feel like playing an important match in Europe, or Sunday afternoon League game in Brazil, play FIFA 2004...I'm totally sure that what we saw until now it's just a scratch about what FIFA is going to offer...oh and that excites me...a thing that all the announced new stuff in WEleven 7 didn't...and just to remember, I'm really an impartial football simulator lover...I'm here for the first time, and the past FIFA versions, well...didn't please me...no way...

I think I play videogame for a long to get a feeling in my gut that says when this or that is gonna be good or not...specially on football, my fave sport, and people's general everyday talk in my country...
 

mapliopl

Youth Team
WATCH ALL THREE AT THE SAME TIME

This is the same thing I posted on my thread

http://www.projectprostyle.com/we7forpros/videos.html

This is the new place for WE7 videos.

http://www.gameinformer.com/images/...A2004/fifa5.mpg

Also look at this real game video from FIFA's world cup

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/02/en/pf/h/cg/cmr_eng_1990.html

click in watch video...

now, play all three at the same time...

It's cool to see how each game resembles reality in some way...

There's still a lot of improvement to be done, so don't go around saying any of these games are the best ever...
 

mapliopl

Youth Team
btw,

if you say that fifa 2004 videos are unrealistic, please watch this real game and tell me if this one fifa video doesn't resemble reality better than WE.

So, don't just say it sucks because you don't like it. Look at the facts. WE's also resembles a lot like reality, so it's also cool.
 

mihalll

Reserve Team
What?

Have you seen the latest movie from SG? Have you seen Ljunbergs goal? Why the heck would keeper lay down to save the high shot?? The only realistic part in FIFA are the cut scenes :kader:
 

mapliopl

Youth Team
Originally posted by mihalll
What?

Have you seen the latest movie from SG? Have you seen Ljunbergs goal? Why the heck would keeper lay down to save the high shot?? The only realistic part in FIFA are the cut scenes :kader:

I'm not saying there are no flaws, but overall, the way they are passing the ball and the way the players move on the field seem to be much more realistic. I wouldn't say it's perfect, but it's really good. I know they still have a few really stupid flaws, but overall, the pace is right, the ball physics are much better.

Now, if you can't see it's much better, I think you are blind.
 

mapliopl

Youth Team
look at this video too.

http://www.winningeleven7.50megs.com/Recoba - Floater.avi

If you tell me the ball physics are realistic on this play, you have problems mihall.

It's completely scripted to the direction the foot is kicking it, without any boucing whatsoever and it's completely angled straight to the direction of foot.

So, don't tell me they are super realistic 'cause it's not true... both games have flaws, and FIFA is getting much better this year with their ball physics.
 

mihalll

Reserve Team
There are some obvious limitations in computer games you know...still it doesnt hurt my eyes as much as FIFA. But hey, if you prefer EA it's really not my problem. Enjoy yourself.
 


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