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What now for EA - ISS3 for the PC in March!

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TristanAbbott7

Starting XI
Well, Konami have done it. They are releasing International Superstar Soccer 3 for the PC on March 23rd. Although not as good as the PES series it is still a big improvement over FIFA 2003 in terms of gameplay. I have played it on the Playstation One and the gameplay just feels a lot better than FIFA 2003. The graphics (at least on the PS1 version) are obviously nowhere near a good as FIFA 2003 and I don't think any soccer game will touch EA for graphics, that's their strong point.

Still, you have to admit, being able to head the ball when you want to, ie. when you are alone and at corners to get a header on goal more than once every 5 games or so, is gonna be great. This is what we need to give EA a HUGE kick up the ass. Even if you don't like ISS3 it's gonna put pressure on EA to step up and improve FIFA 2004 becasue if ISS3 has any kind of success on the PC they'll follow it up with the PES series. At the end of the day they're business men and if they sell a truckload of ISS3 they're gonna do what's best for the company and the contract with Sony doesn't prevent them from releasing PES to PC format.

This is good news for FIFA fans as much as for followers of the Konami series because EA have got to look over their shoulder at last in their last stronghold, the PC, and Konami have given us non-console owners an opportunity to play a great soccer game on the PC.
 
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The_Knight

Senior Squad
That sounds pretty much interesting...

Plz if u have a site with more info/screenshots/interviews then plz tell us about it... we're in Feb so there's supposed to be tons of that stuff all over the net (I dunno about Konami but that's how EA used to manage its game)

And all graphix on Playstation One sucks so don't try to compare the ISS graphix with fifa based on a PS1 experience, I guess the graphix won't be THAT bad... anyway its Konami's first real try on pc so I hope they don't blow it..

Thanks for the info man.

Peace all.
 
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?uestlove

Youth Team
that will be wonderful. it just might have the desired effect of making EA produce more rewarding football games. i wouldnt hesitate to pick it up of course.
 
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Silencer

Superstar
Graphics look like sh*t if you ask me, ok to have great gameplay but the graphics need to be good as well like EA's graphics with realistic players.
 
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Hans

How big is YOUR penis?
The graphics is fairly good IMO, unlike EA who gives us excellent world class graphics but a very low quality gameplay, even with a worse quality CC. Anyway, when that game comes out I`m gonna grab it, and I will still having fun editing FIFA while after that playing ISS 3. I also assume Konami will release this game to see how PC gamers responds, if it`s good I`m sure that they will release the real deal ISS.
 
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NerazZurRo

Youth Team
omg the graphics look awful for a PC format game... since Konami have already got a near-perfect gameplay then why didn't they focus more on adding more teams and improving graphics since they had one whole year between PES and PES2.. look at the work EA have done from f2k2 to f2k3.. thanx but no thnx.. i'm sticking to my fifa.. 2 more years they're gonna have a perfect gameplay and then it's curtains for konami
 
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Hans

How big is YOUR penis?
Originally posted by NerazZurRo
2 more years they're gonna have a perfect gameplay and then it's curtains for konami
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In 2 more years it`d curtains for EA if they still keep giving bull****s about their FIFA to customers and keeps taking away features.
 
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MarcoBode

Club Supporter
sorry, lil' question, where exactly are the differnces between the PES series and ISS ???
I ****ing love the Konami games, especially PES2, but I only could play it once, in an youth club :( ....

greez
 
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Hercules

Starting XI
That's great news, since I have long waited for this moment.....:)

However, I will have to see if ISS would offer a similar (or even better?) level of editability, this means that we can create all the teams and leagues we want, because it is simply not possible to expect any game to include all teams/leagues for everybody's taste. So, if ISS offers that, I can definitely see curtains for EA and lots of us editors will be quitting the FIFA scene for good.

And as for graphics, as long as the graphics models are designed well, and it allows high resolution textures, then I cannot see any reason why our graphics editors in the community cant improve on that front.
 
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GreeningforEng!

Senior Squad
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

The new ISS is being produced by Konami's Osaka line (KCEO) who suck bum when it comes to gameplay...

The best ISS games have been produced by their Tokyo line (KCET), including the Pro Evo series...
 
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nickclubman

Starting XI
On the 17th screenshot, you can see the subs in the bench moving and celebrating/arguing, whatever their doing it's the REAL players' over Portugal, AMAZING and if I am to be sure, ISS2 had the 4th official showing subs & added on time, this WILL give EA a much needed hard time to bring the FIFA series back up and like C&VG say, ALL the player names are CORRECT!! YEEEEAAAH!!

I might just HAVE to try this game out, OH YEAH! :rockman:

ROCK ON!

Nick Clubman.
 
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Hearts_FC

Senior Squad
Originally posted by Silencer
Graphics look like sh*t if you ask me, ok to have great gameplay but the graphics need to be good as well like EA's graphics with realistic players.
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Ahem...two words, Sensible Soccer - graphics were basic but the gameplay was superb. Of course things have moved on since then but I think this is a good example of how gameplay is WAY more important than graphics.
 
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Internazionale

Elo Ratings
Great One

It looks a very good game. :) And, I still love KCEO's ISS series. It's too bad KCEO don't want to continue to release the games (PS2) here in North America.
 
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TristanAbbott7

Starting XI
The important thing

Let's not forget though that the important issue from the impending release of ISS3 on the PC is that it's gonna kick EA Sports up the butt hard to get their act together.

Graphics aside, the gameplay on ISS3 will be better than FIFA's, any Konami title whether it be the Pro Evolution, Winning Eleven, Perfect Striker, ISS have always had better gameplay than FIFA's.

If this doesn't make FIFA imrpove the heading, the slow responsiveness, the 500mph rebounds off the keepers and the pathetic "everybody can catch up to me even when I'm 50 yards ahead with Owen!" situations then it's clear EA Sports really don't give a flying crap in which case we may as well jump ship over to the ISS3 series anyway.

I've had every FIFA since they were released but I'm sick of the three steps forward, three steps back crap year after year.

FIFA World Cup was ok except for being able to header goals from your own half and every pass being a curve. But then, what happened with FIFA 2003? The worst heading system of any FIFA, even the first one on the Megadrive had better heading than the one we have now. Either the other player wins the ball or you trap the ball and then magically backheel it! If you do win the header it looks like it's actually the other team's player who has headed it back for you. Tell me, what the crap do EA Sports do when they test these games. It's not like they've screwed up a minor part of the game, it makes corners, crosses and open play with high balls a joke.

I'm gonna get ISS3 and if it's half way decent (the previous ISS titles have been good in terms of gameplay on every platform) then let's all give EA as much crap as we can and pressure them to make FIFA 2004 the greatest soccer game ever. They've got the graphics and we can't fault them too much for that but the gameplay has to improve or else we're all out of here.

ISS3, whether you're gonna buy it or not, whether you like the graphics or not is great news for FIFA gamers.
 
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KingPaulV

Starting XI
happy ex-fifa fan!!

Please somebody tell me that they will release this game in North America?......hell it doesnt matter I'll go to Japan to get it if I have to, its worth the trip because I am quite tired of FIFA and like someone mentioned earlier the three steps fowards three backwards approach of the series.....


I dont have time/desire to sit for 10 hours editing kits and faces, I'll much rather change names and do basic kit shape changes and play good football rather than edit edit edit edit and edit only to test it, see how it works and then pop the game out of my drive becasue its all messed up........I mean every year I would go shell out 43 bucks to get poor quality....You have a game made by EA like madden where grass gets stuck on a players helmet when he dives to the ground and where players would wear different accessories based on how cold or hot it is, or the type of surface they are playing in, but yet FIFA has always lagged behind, kind of like they dont care enough

I'm so glad this is happening, it should make EA dissapear or get better lets hope for the second one.
 
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