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Yasser Arafat ~ DEAD

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Sir Calumn

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Holy sh!t this is awful!

Arafat may have been a bastard, but he was the only hope for the peace-process. Now some bloody extremeist bastard is gonna get in, or Sharon is gonna milk every inch of advantage he can, and the whole situation is gonna explode.

Damnit, I was desparately hoping this wouldnt happen. Expect a helleva lot more suicide bombings, political assassinations, Israely militerization and urban/guerilla warfare in the near future.
 
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Elder

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Originally posted by Sir Didier*CFC
Holy sh!t this is awful!

Arafat may have been a bastard, but he was the only hope for the peace-process. Now some bloody extremeist bastard is gonna get in, or Sharon is gonna milk every inch of advantage he can, and the whole situation is gonna explode.

Damnit, I was desparately hoping this wouldnt happen. Expect a helleva lot more suicide bombings, political assassinations, Israely militerization and urban/guerilla warfare in the near future.
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I have a different view. That view being that now the Middle East actually has a chance for peace. Arafat was always an obstacle to the process in order to retain his power, and now that he is basically gone, the more moderate people who he was against have a chance to shine.

There might be a small increase in bombings in the short term, maybe a civil war. Either way, one of the worst terrorists is eiter dead or about to be dead and that's a good thing.

You in Britian should remember that he and his people also helped train the IRA in bomb making...
 
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Sir Calumn

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Originally posted by Elder
I have a different view. That view being that now the Middle East actually has a chance for peace. Arafat was always an obstacle to the process in order to retain his power, and now that he is basically gone, the more moderate people who he was against have a chance to shine.

There might be a small increase in bombings in the short term, maybe a civil war. Either way, one of the worst terrorists is eiter dead or about to be dead and that's a good thing.

You in Britian should remember that he and his people also helped train the IRA in bomb making...
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Dont get me wrong, I hate(ed) Arafat, but I've often thought he was the only thing keeping the true extremeists out. Arafat managed to keep Hamas's activity to a minimum, but if a moderate got in, I would expect a large and enduring rise in Hamas activity, and there is even the risk that a Hamas (or similar) representitive may get into power in which case all will go to hell. I would not be at all surprised if there is an extremists vs moderates civil war, and there's no telling how Sharon would act in those circumstances.
 
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Virgo

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Originally posted by Elder
I have a different view. That view being that now the Middle East actually has a chance for peace. Arafat was always an obstacle to the process in order to retain his power, and now that he is basically gone, the more moderate people who he was against have a chance to shine.

There might be a small increase in bombings in the short term, maybe a civil war. Either way, one of the worst terrorists is eiter dead or about to be dead and that's a good thing.

You in Britian should remember that he and his people also helped train the IRA in bomb making...
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shut up ... this is absolute trash.

Sir_Didier_Drogba is right... Arafat was the only person that was actually respected by the whole Palestine, now it will get much worse if Israel stop whitdrawing or something happens.
 
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Sir Calumn

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Originally posted by Virgo
shut up ... this is absolute trash.

Sir_Didier_Drogba is right... Arafat was the only person that was actually respected by the whole Palestine, now it will get much worse if Israel stop whitdrawing or something happens.
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It could easily swing either way. This could be the best thing thats ever happened in the peace process, or it could completely destroy it. However, personally I would rather Arafat had stayed alive so as not to risk the latter, and I personally see the latter as more likely.
 
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Elder

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Originally posted by Virgo
shut up ... this is absolute trash.

Sir_Didier_Drogba is right... Arafat was the only person that was actually respected by the whole Palestine, now it will get much worse if Israel stop whitdrawing or something happens.
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Israel HATES Arafat, and for good reason. The Israeli people would be more willing to work for peace with ANYONE but Arafat. Israel won't stop withdrawing now, because Arafat didn't help this happen anyway.

Virgo, on this subject you are utterly ignorant.
 
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Elder

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Originally posted by Sir Didier*CFC
It could easily swing either way. This could be the best thing thats ever happened in the peace process, or it could completely destroy it. However, personally I would rather Arafat had stayed alive so as not to risk the latter, and I personally see the latter as more likely.
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You guys seem to forget one thing... I seem to hear that there will be bombings now that Arafat is dead, but I have to ask you. What is happening now that Arafat is alive? Bombings! What has been happening for years under Arafats control? Terrorism and bombings!

So, I just don't see him dying being a bad thing. It can only get better in the long run as one of the worlds most renowned terrorist leaders is dying. Actually, i hear now he is brain dead, but that's nothing new.
 
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Sir Calumn

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Originally posted by Elder
You guys seem to forget one thing... I seem to hear that there will be bombings now that Arafat is dead, but I have to ask you. What is happening now that Arafat is alive? Bombings!
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Yeah, but the big thing is, Arafat didnt (officially) condone them and therefore, neither did those who supported him (and there were a helleva lot) - therefore the bombings were nowhere near what they could have been. Now, if the moderates get in, they will certainly oppose the tactics of Hamas which could cause the extremeists, who hate the moderates, to step up the bombings tenfold. Then there's the period of uncertainty before a new leader is found, inwhich the extremists will take maximum advantage. And then theres the really big worry that an extremist or (public) extremist sympathiser may get into power. And thats just from the Palestinian perspective, who knows how Sharon will react, whatever the situation.
 
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Virgo

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Originally posted by Elder
Israel HATES Arafat, and for good reason. The Israeli people would be more willing to work for peace with ANYONE but Arafat. Israel won't stop withdrawing now, because Arafat didn't help this happen anyway.

Virgo, on this subject you are utterly ignorant.
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Newsflash Israelis and Palestinians hate each other!

AHHAHAHAHHA

you showed a COMPLETE lack of knowledge in the other thread apart from the CNN/FOX trash you see, and I'm the utterly ignorant right on!

As I said before, in this subject you shouldn't even be allowed to have an opinion, because you clearly have no clue about what you're talking about.
 
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Virgo

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Originally posted by Sir Didier*CFC
Yeah, but the big thing is, Arafat didnt (officially) condone them and therefore, neither did those who supported him (and there were a helleva lot) - therefore the bombings were nowhere near what they could have been. Now, if the moderates get in, they will certainly oppose the tactics of Hamas which could cause the extremeists, who hate the moderates, to step up the bombings tenfold. Then there's the period of uncertainty before a new leader is found, inwhich the extremists will take maximum advantage. And then theres the really big worry that an extremist or (public) extremist sympathiser may get into power. And thats just from the Palestinian perspective, who knows how Sharon will react, whatever the situation.
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He has stood against violence from both sides for a long long time, because after so many years witnessing the israeli/palestinian conflict he realized that violence wouldn't result in anything but generation more hate. The difference is that violence in Israel is done by the state and army and in Palestine it's not. We're talking about a person who gave his entire life to this conflict for the good times or the bad times.

The moderates you talk about have absolutely no respect at all from the terrorist groups. The terrorists don't even want to listen to them. Like that guy who was appointed when the US refused to deal with Arafat because Sharon didn't want to... he resigned after a few months because he realized he couldn't even talk with the extremists.
 
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Sir Calumn

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No way would Arafats supporters allow the hospital to confirm his death until they had decided exactly what to do.
 
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Vagegast

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The PA might now join with Hamas to form a collective leadership. I for one hope Abbas or Dahlan takes over.

I also read in Haar'etz that the Israelis are preparing for massive riots and a wave of Palestinians trying to be bury Arafat in Jerusalem.
 
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AhmedK

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how can you say Arafat was keeping the mid east from peace? Whats to keep Hamas or the Al Aqsa martyrs brigade from taking over whats left of the gov.?
 
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Scorpions

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Mr. Arafat is a revolutionary leader, and a very skilled organizer. He has give his entire life to fighting for the Palestinian cause. Befor he was sixteen, he allready had started to smuggle weapons into Palestine. Weapons that were used to fight back against the Imperialist-British and the Zionist-Jews. He is a man who's name has been made dirty by the Imperialists and Zionists in the west. He is no "terrorist" as they claim. He is a man that want peace and his peoples land back.

Let's all give good wishes to Mr. Arafat and hope he'll fight trough this one. He has been a fighter all his life, so I belive he will battle his illness with all his will.

Good wishes towards Yasser Arafat.

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VIVA PALESTINE! (H)
 
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