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The Official Manchester United Thread [2006/2007]

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GoldenSpike

Reserve Team
d3adly said:
then that is cool. it seems fletcher is being now used as an AM.

oh and i missed park ji-sung in the midfielders list.

I still don't understand why SAF doesn't use him in the centre of midfield where he was excellent for PSV especially against AC Milan. I think even SAF underrates him.
 

barthez4

Senior Squad
AlienSeafood said:
same as where he is playin now for united...CM...defensive, goin forward once in awhile...
Not defensive. Deep lying playmaker. Watch Pirlo play, Carrick does the same, except not as well. He really doesn't defend that much, he just plays from a withdrawn position as opposed to rushing up behind the strikers, ala Scholes.

Oh, and add West Ham to the list of EPL teams with a better midfield than us.
-Chelsea
-Liverpool
-Tottenham
-Newcastle?
-West Ham

I'm probably forgetting a few.
 

barthez4

Senior Squad
1966+2006 said:
no not newcastle. lpool perhaps....
I think they might... Parker, Solano, Emre, Duff, Dyer, Milner... The fact that they have Parker means that no matter how good we are on the wings, we're still going to have a hard time against them with O'Shea as his counterpart. Unless SAF thinks that Carrick and Scholes should play together, which would be very, very stupid.
 

Help?

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barthez4 said:
Not defensive. Deep lying playmaker. Watch Pirlo play, Carrick does the same, except not as well. He really doesn't defend that much, he just plays from a withdrawn position as opposed to rushing up behind the strikers, ala Scholes.

Oh, and add West Ham to the list of EPL teams with a better midfield than us.
-Chelsea
-Liverpool
-Tottenham
-Newcastle?
-West Ham

I'm probably forgetting a few.
Ask yourself how many of these teams have better wingers and it will be totally different story. United are all about wingplay, which is pretty evident from our last 3 games.
 

Fernandez

Team Captain
barthez4 said:
Unless SAF thinks that Carrick and Scholes should play together, which would be very, very stupid.

Why would it be very, very stupid? We have two of our best passers in central midfield who can really pass a ball.
 

jani

Fan Favourite
ok, then who will stop the opposition central midfield then?

its always important to have a tough guy in the middle. remember Real post Makelele?
 

houston3721

Senior Squad
Fernandez said:
Why would it be very, very stupid? We have two of our best passers in central midfield who can really pass a ball.
It would be great for us to have both Scholes and Carrick in the midfield. They both can give some killer passes. And Carrick is fine on tackling, at least he will dive into tackles.

Btw, I just bought the new home kit today and printed GIGGS 11. :amika:

Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs, Running Down the Wing~
 

dubcrazy

Senior Squad
and can someone explain to me how west ham have a better midfield then us and for matter of fact spurs newcastle and also liverpool ooo and add arsenal to that???

starting midfield

United giggs scholes carrick ronaldo
west ham benayoun reo-coker mascherano etherington
newcastle duff parker emre solano
arsenal ljungberg silva fabregas hleb/rosicky
liverpool gerrard xabi sissko kewell/gonzalez
spurs lennon jenas davids malbranque

yeah they look really tough,,yes liverpool has a good midfield but i wouldnt say without any doubt that there midfield is better then us
 

jani

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Fernandez said:
Real had sh*t defenders. Don't bother comparing us with other clubs.

Makelele was Real's downfall. Full stop.

Unless in a 4-3-3, I dont see Fergie playing both Carrick and Scholes.
 

untouchable

Senior Squad
I think you guys are starting to lose it a bit. The transfer window is closed so you're trying to convince yourselves that we're fine the way we are, but we are NOT, so open your eyes and use your brain.

It's all fine and dandy that we beat up on the small clubs in the EPL with our inbalanced central midfield, but when we actually come up against a class team, we will be shown up. No matter what crap you say about "We have the best passers" or whatever, the fact is, THERE IS NO ONE DOING THE ESSENTIAL DIRTY WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. Have any one of you seen Scholes tackle well? Carrick? NO BECAUSE THEY ARE MIDFIELD PLAYMAKERS THATS WHY. IT IS NOT THEIR JOBS TO CHASE AND TACKLE. The club ****ed up BIG TIME when they canceled the Senna deal to chase after the flavor of the month Hargreaves. The fact of the matter is, O'Shea is a defender, and Carrick is a deep lying playmaker, like Pirlo. Scholes is an attacking midfield player. It is not their jobs to defend, therefore by making them defend, we are taking away from their attacking ability.

What other top club in Europe has such a friggin unbalanced midfield? Milan? NO. Barcelona? NO. Chelsea? HELL NO. Madrid? NO. So why should we be content with the bull**** we have now? Get real.
 

ladylover

Senior Squad
All this whining about midfielders is becoming a bit annoying! Wasn't Scholes well known because of his crunch tackles? And Pirlo isn't a deeplying playmaker, he sits in front of the defence even more often then Gatusso.
 
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