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Any muslims on SG? please help me

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sportgaming

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According to another poll published last week, 7% of Britain's 1.6 Million Muslims - more than 100,000 people- believe suicide bombings in the UK could be justified in certain circumstances. These are not exceptional findings. According to a YouGov poll taken last year, 24% of British Muslims expressed some sympathy with the motives of the London bombers. Most disturbingly, 32% agreed that : Western society is decadent and immoral and Muslims should seek to bring it to an end."
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or putting it another way


93% beileve that suice bombings are never justified

76% had no sympathy with the london bombings

and 68% didn;t think that western society should be bought to an end


every religion has it's extremists,

the whoile religion should not be judges onj the acts of this minority


i know I definitly don;t want to be judged to be the same as these evangalical cults present in the Christian world, and from the stats given above, many of the muslim world feel exactly the same
 
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::shinji::

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Don't stand up for religion man, it doesn't deserve the courtesy. If you lived in Iran or Saudi Arabia you'd either be executed or jailed for being who you are, and it would have nothing to do with extremism.. You probably wouldn't last long in rural Mississippi either.
 
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Paul

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sportgaming said:
It makes me angry when people think that muslim = terrorist

just in the same way as many people think that
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Agreed. I also believe tho terrorists are acting like leeches, and religion is the blood in a way to justify what terrorists (not anyone else) are doing is tolerable.

However I don't believe in religion. For two reasons, one is I'm not going support something I don't 100% think is true, or believe in it for the sake of it. Also I think it causes too many boundaries in society, that the common idiot wouldn't understand or overcome.

Anyone that is religious, I just don't care, good on ya whatever you believe. Although I don't think these cartoons should be taken so seriously, they're just stupid.
 
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sportgaming

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::shinji:: said:
Don't stand up for religion man, it doesn't deserve the courtesy. If you lived in Iran or Saudi Arabia you'd either be executed or jailed for being who you are, and it would have nothing to do with extremism.. You probably wouldn't last long in rural Mississippi either.
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i know that in certain religions mt way of life would not be tollerated, but does that mean that I can;t respect people for beliveing hat they want to believe



no religion in todays scoiety promites the discrimination or ill treatmne of any other human being, that is not the religious way. JUst becuase some people take things to extremes does not mean that everyone else in that relagion would have done the same thing


I am a devoted christian, and many other christians would say that by being gaym that makes me no a christina.


I know what I believe in, and the christian way of life ( i'e treating others as you wish to be treated, 1 life long partner, help those on need) is precisely the way that I live my life.


Most people respect that fact. Iv fact my partner is a devoted Roman Catholic, and they are tradiotnally the most anti-gay of all christians, but we have had nothing but 100% accepatnce from all members of his family.

Likewise, traditonally the muslim relagion is agains being gay, but Ahmed, among others on these boards has been among the most supportive of all mebers,


thats because relgions does not make anyone with any amount of control do or say soething,. that they feel to be wrong to say.

These acts of terrorism etc simly use relagion as an excuse


if there was no such thing as religion, then they would probaly blame it on the weather making them angry.
 
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IceBlu

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sportgaming said:
i know that in certain religions mt way of life would not be tollerated, but does that mean that I can;t respect people for beliveing hat they want to believe



no religion in todays scoiety promites the discrimination or ill treatmne of any other human being, that is not the religious way. JUst becuase some people take things to extremes does not mean that everyone else in that relagion would have done the same thing


I am a devoted christian, and many other christians would say that by being gaym that makes me no a christina.



I know what I believe in, and the christian way of life ( i'e treating others as you wish to be treated, 1 life long partner, help those on need) is precisely the way that I live my life.


Most people respect that fact. Iv fact my partner is a devoted Roman Catholic, and they are tradiotnally the most anti-gay of all christians, but we have had nothing but 100% accepatnce from all members of his family.

Likewise, traditonally the muslim relagion is agains being gay, but Ahmed, among others on these boards has been among the most supportive of all mebers,


thats because relgions does not make anyone with any amount of control do or say soething,. that they feel to be wrong to say.

These acts of terrorism etc simly use relagion as an excuse


if there was no such thing as religion, then they would probaly blame it on the weather making them angry.
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Naive - Check

Idealistic - Check

30,000 Typos - Check
 
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sportgaming

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Joe Star said:
Gotta hand it to you Steven, if I was in your place I would be last 1 defending these religious types.
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I am only defending genuine religious people

not the extremists who are so often incorrectly linked with religion, and do not follow the teachings of the religion in the way which they were intended


and if you mean geunine religious people, then of course I am going to defend them, as I am one myself



checked for typo's this time ;)
 
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Deisler

Red Card [Being a douche] exp. 22/1/06
I am a muslim too and very upset with those comics, but i am also very upset by the rage they caused. Violence is stupid. The Prophet Mohhamad was a man of peace. He urged the muslims to love each other and respect who oposses them.

I was trying to find a reason in all this anger and the only explanation i find is that in Islam in general portraits are 'not recomended' since humans are Gods most perfect creation. No one is allowed to immitate that creation. As a matter of fact no picture of Mohhamed since his days has ever been painted. If you have seen the movie THE MESSAGE with Anthony Quinn the prophets' face is NEVER shown. Drawing his face and adding the comic side on it created all that turmoil imo.

Now:
mika said:
Muslims are mad becouse they don't get laid
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Well i'm a muslim too and i spent more time in Welcome To RUSSIA
Lamme joke i know. :( (6)
 
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The_Knight

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"Freedom of expression....."

Historian jailed for Holocaust denial
Tuesday Feb 21 07:47 AEDT

British historian David Irving has been found guilty in Vienna of denying the Holocaust of European Jewry and sentenced to three years in prison.

He had faced up to 10 years in prison.

Irving, 67, arrived in the court room handcuffed, wearing a blue suit, and carrying a copy of Hitler's War, one of many books he has written on the Nazis, and which challenges the extent of the Holocaust.

Irving was arrested in Austria in November, on a warrant dating back to 1989, when he gave a speech and interview denying the existence of gas chambers at Auschwitz.

He was stopped by police on a motorway in southern Austria, where he was visiting to give a lecture to a far-right student fraternity. He has been held in custody since then.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4733820.stm

Irving's trial comes amid new -- and fierce -- debate over freedom of expression in Europe, where the printing and reprinting of unflattering cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad has triggered violent protests worldwide.

http://cgi.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/02/20/austria.irving.trial.ap/index.html
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=87807
 
ShiftyPowers

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
I have replied on a different forum about this holocaust denial sentence and I'm complete for the protection of the historian, using many of the same arguments I used in this forum supporting the right of the Danish to post the cartoons. If anyone cares it's at basketballboards.net in the political forum, but suffice it to say this is ridiculous and I'm totally against prosecuting this man.
 
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sportgaming

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ShiftyPowers said:
I guess my student paper published one of the cartoons, here's a fantastic and relatively short defense of it by two really distinguished professors who know what they're talking about. And I know that because coincidentally I've had both of them for classes.

http://badgerherald.com/oped/2006/02/20/the_freedom_to_offen.php
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some very valid points raised there


but the comment left after the article, is precisely the way I see things
 
ShiftyPowers

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
I don't think even I have gone so far as to say that it was a good idea to publish cartoons or anything that offends a major group needlessly, I'm just standing up for their right to do it. The cliche quote is "Although I do not agree with what you say sir, I will defend to the death your right to say it"
 
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sportgaming

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ShiftyPowers said:
I don't think even I have gone so far as to say that it was a good idea to publish cartoons or anything that offends a major group needlessly, I'm just standing up for their right to do it. The cliche quote is "Although I do not agree with what you say sir, I will defend to the death your right to say it"
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absolutely, agree 100% with that statement

I was purely defending the rights of those who were protesting peacefully ( letter writing etc) to be doing just that


I would never defend he rights for violent protest, but people have to be given a voice, it is then down to them to make this voice heard in the correct manner
 
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