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datboy

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Originally posted by Bobby
90% of the time it's the real deal
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so this could mean that all the statements from Wenger that Vieira is not for sale, even for 40 million isn't true?

and that Vieira wants to leave Gunners for
for Madrid.

if the deal goes through, i feel sorry for Arsenal fans. i really do. that's like Raul would leave us. i would be so pissed off.

we would get a true football star to Madrid tho and Vieira is exactly what we need to balance our mid-defence.
 
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enigma

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I wouldn't be pissed if Paddy left, just disappointed. He's served us long and well.
Should he go, I wish him the best of luck.

If Yaya turns out to be like Kolo then I wouldn't mind Paddy gone really, but what are the chances?
God spent a little more time on Kolo. :D

Oh and if Paddy really leaves for Madrid, they'd be a real force. Real real real force.
Walter Samuel and Paddy would be the missing parts of their puzzle.
 
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Yossarian

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Originally posted by bjmenge
One thing we can all agree on: Wiltord is shit. (H)
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who was the idiot who over-paid for 'em?


Originally posted by enigma
Thierry was played out of position for France.

Edit: Sorry, I mean France's tactics were caging Thierry, as Pires said.
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WaaaaaWaaaaaWaaaaaa......so you want the entire team to revolve around him? Isn't that a ridiculous demand when it comes to International games? Why can't he just improve on his dribbling skills or learn to adapt when posed with unfavorable situations?
 
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Dreath

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you're an idot...
When Henry plays well the team plays well. Henry sets up more goals than most players in the world put together. He's not a player who can play up against defenders he plays deep and runs. He's not a Van Nistlerooy.

On another note can we PLEASE stop talknig about Paddy. It's depressing me. The idea that the best midfielder in the world leaving is too wrong to talk about.
 
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Yossarian

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Originally posted by Dreath
you're an idot...
When Henry plays well the team plays well. Henry sets up more goals than most players in the world put together. He's not a player who can play up against defenders he plays deep and runs. He's not a Van Nistlerooy.

On another note can we PLEASE stop talknig about Paddy. It's depressing me. The idea that the best midfielder in the world leaving is too wrong to talk about.
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hey, man. Don't get all razzmatazz on my ass, man. Calm down...sheesh
 
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acmilan101

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I actually saw Wiltord play well on a few occasions. He had a very powerful shot and .. well that's about it. Any idea on where he's headed now?
 
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jigger37

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Originally posted by LaBrujita
You should get rid of your Henry signature before making a post such as this.
I don't want to knit-pick through every sentence you wrote, but, from now on, please accurately respond to what I have said, instead of twisting what I have said.

I never said he was crap. I never said he never plays well. I never said he doesn't do more than score goals -- he does a hell of a lot more. I never said he doesn't chase to regain possession in the EPL; in fact, I even said that he does do that, then, just not in the big competitions, at least not with the same regularity (don't use tactics as an argument, on this one, because that has little to do with the situations I'm talking about).

I never said he scores crap goals, or only tap-ins. Actually, I'd like him to be able to score more poacher-like tap-ins.

I never handpicked any games; the people on your side were handpicking the games. I merely pointed out that a 5-0 win, and a 5-1 win, including a hattrick, lead into my argument, perfectly. If those were 3-2 games, or games where Arsenal were against the ropes, then I'd have nothing. We saw the games, though, and that is where my case rests.
Henry played brilliant in that game against Inter. That was also a big game. Did Inter show up, after we'd put a couple by them? You can decide. His long-run and set-up to Edu, reminiscent of an EPL performance, was great. But . . . I can't recall anything close to that in any 'big game'.

He sets up a ton of goals. He scores a ton more. He takes on and makes defenders look silly. He scores from set-plays. He doesn't show up when it really matters, that's all.

By the way, just as you can play brilliantly and not score -- your point -- you can also play shockingly and score -- my point.

I don't get what you mean with the Serie A comments. However, I do believe Sheva is a more valuable striker than Henry, same with RvN, and other strikers. Henry can outshine anyone, on his day, and against the right opponents, I am still waiting to see him shine on a bigger stage.

"After one incident". Yes, that's what I said. I am basing everyone on one incident. I watch pretty much every Arsenal league game, and most of their CL games. I also watch France at the WC and Euro.

The fact that he shows frustration with his teammates does not bother me, relatively. The negative way in which he does it, the games in which he does it this way, and the moments in those games in which he does it are what get to me.

He is our highest goalscorer -- yes. Please note my previous comments, his number of relative appearances, his position, his ability, and his role.

Keep in mind, I am an Arsenal fan, too.
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I dont care what club you support for starters tbh,and for what its worth pires is my fav arsenal player, i just happen to have henry in my sig,does this give my argument credibility now? That post was aimed at you and that Milan fan, if it was specifically aimed at you then i would have quoted your comments like this, and if you read what he said,recall what you said and what i said in return to those on your side, you would have been aware of that too.

Originally posted by LaBrujita I never said he doesn't do more than score goals -- he does a hell of a lot more. I never said he doesn't chase to regain possession in the EPL; in fact, I even said that he does do that, then, just not in the big competitions, at least not with the same regularity
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And the definition of knit-picking would be...this is is the kinds of ridiculous statements i have a problem with, cos this implies you have to be of a certain quality to chase balls in the EPL than CL(no doubt, impling something about the quality of his game and inherently the EPL,right), and even more ridiculous is trying to temper it by saying, hes all of these negative things you've highlighted in your posts so far ,but hes also good. And when games are named(regardless of who names them) there is something about the performance of the team he played well against that diminishes what he did in the game, as highlighted by the Liverpool,Chelsea and Inter games in your own words. Even in the overall post im quoting, you still found time to to ask if "Inter showed up after had scored a couple of goals",cos i dont know how you show up in a game you're being ouplayed in and and the opposition isnt letting up.

Stop taking general comments OTT either, because there are people who like these alternate theories(usually opposition fans) and constantly keep finding and saying all this kinds of things, i could start an argument about why is it that trez doest dribble and beat defenders, but its just not his deal, and yet many consider him a great striker, he didnt shine in the euro but escapes critisism unlike henry. And this "Big game Theory" is just so petty, which was why in the previous post i questioned if arsenal progressed in the CL for example all this would matter, considering there are 10 other players that dont seem to be factors in this shortsighted equation.

Ignoring your sarcasm, you claim the "negatve way" he shows frustration and "the games" he does it are what bothers you. I for one didnt know there was a positive way of being frustrated, with someone passing up a goalscoring op, is it the way many players throw their hands up in disgust or yell at their teammates, that anyone has ever watched a game has seen? As for the "games" i can only recall the utd game where he was ever like that, other times its just the natural/general frustration jestures people show with regards to inaccurate passes etc. Also i dont consider those players you mentioned as more valuable, we dont have to agree to disagreee, they're just not. I dont claim hes superman, it just seems certain types have a problem with him for not being superman, i am not aware of a player without faults, maybe you are,but he definately isnt of this world. Its doing what you're good at well that makes a player, he can be even better in increasing his goal scoring avenues, but this is applicable to everyone else, anything else is just 'small potatoes'.
 
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dubcrazy

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Ray Parlour is considering an offer from Middlesbrough, Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has confirmed.
Skysports.com revealed earlier this summer that Boro had made a move for Parlour and now Wenger has confirmed that talks are ongoing.

Boro are understood to have lodged a bid of near £2 million for the 31-year-old - who has just one-year left on his current contract at Highbury.

Parlour's agent Steve Kutner has told skysports.com that his client will not be offered a new deal at the club, so the former England midfielder is now considering his options.

Wenger has now admitted that Parlour has a lucrative offer to join The Riverside ranks.

"He was linked and the decision will be made soon," said Wenger when asked about Boro's interest.

"Ray is in a situation where he has been offered a two or three year contract, but I would like him to stay."

Parlour must now decide whether to make the switch to Boro or stay and fight for his place, in what would almost certainly be his last season with Arsenal.

The player himself would not be draw on the speculation, but admitted he wanted first-team football.

"All I want to do is play first-team football," he said.

"As I said my priority at this stage of my career is to be in the starting XI every week.

"At the moment I'm an Arsenal player but to be honest I've got very little choice but to keep my opinions open at present.

"I've been trying to keep myself fit and if something happens then that's football."
 
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Bummy_JaB

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IF Vieria leaves we need some1 who can be just as good. Parker was def played out of position at Chelsea, But I dont think he can get the job done like paddy did.
 
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