Balon d'Or 2004

[santino]

Originally posted by dannyeli
just because Ronaldinho has sick moves and can dribble like no one else on earth, doesn't mean he deserves to win the Balon d'Or.

Titles matters because is the prove that you carry your team to the "promise land" which is to be champions of either your local league, local cup or and international competition.

He not even played for Brazil in Copa America for god sakes... I'm not taking anything from him, i trully believe his in the top 3 best players in the world, but he most take a team to a title before winning this award. IMO

brazil didn't bring a lot of their top players to copa america tho

even tho the team they brought was amazing......in most people's eyes it was seen as a b team

 

[Mikey]

Originally posted by santino
what about cordoba?

I originally had him.

But than yossarian would make some 'threats', and than SB9 would kiss his a*s

 

[Funky--K]

and to think maradona never won it

 

[Lean]

I voted for Shevchenko.

 

[Mayor]

Ronaldinho as a player makes his best last times, last and current season, others have no comparision to him
voted for Ronnie

 

[Romano]

I say Henry because:

Totti isnt in the list
Ronaldinho will win FIFA World Player of the Year

 

[Punkt]

Charisteas

and he has 3 votes!

 

[NIDOKING]

Sivori is Argentinian

BTW, no-Maradona, no-Pele, no-Zico, Who gave those prizes? >.>

 

[santino]

Originally posted by NIDOKING
Sivori is Argentinian

BTW, no-Maradona, no-Pele, no-Zico, Who gave those prizes? >.>

the french

 

[Booger]

Man you guys don't know ****. Until George Weah won the Balon d'Or only players of European descent were eligible. Now everyone who plays in Europe is eligible to win.

 

[santino]

Originally posted by Booger
Man you guys don't know ****. Until George Weah won the Balon d'Or only players of European descent were eligible. Now everyone who plays in Europe is eligible to win.

thanks TIPS

 

[Vedran-10]

Vince, you say that a player must win titles before winning the award.I said that according to you, Seedorf would be the best in the world since he's won everything and you say that the award is for a YEAR.And to think that you actually took it seriously about Seedorf being the best...
True dumbass.

Also, I totally disagree with those who say that a player must win titles to get an award.That is BS.Imagine if you are by far the best player in the world and you just happen to be playing in a ****ty team for a season, and even though you were better than all the other nominees, you don't win the award because your team-mates are incompetent?Please...
A player can't beat eleven players by himself, let alone win a title.

Also, Ronaldinho is the reigning world champion.And he hasn't won anything.
Bravo.

 

[castelen]

voted for ronaldinho, his actions are simply amazing

 

[Guillaume]

I would like to see Henry or Zidane with the Ballon d'Or next december, but I think they didn't win enough trophy this year.

Logicaly, Deco should win the Ballon d'or FF, but it's not sure.

 

[Hendrik]

Originally posted by zka
Vince, you say that a player must win titles before winning the award.I said that according to you, Seedorf would be the best in the world since he's won everything and you say that the award is for a YEAR.And to think that you actually took it seriously about Seedorf being the best...

I didn't take it seriously, it just amazed me how you could bring up Seedorf in your argument

Also, I totally disagree with those who say that a player must win titles to get an award.That is BS.Imagine if you are by far the best player in the world and you just happen to be playing in a ****ty team for a season, and even though you were better than all the other nominees, you don't win the award because your team-mates are incompetent?

Ronaldinho had some worldclass players surrounding him last season. Definitely a squad which could have won something.

Also, Ronaldinho is the reigning world champion.And he hasn't won anything.Bravo.

You don't get the Balon d'Or 2004 for your career achievements but for what you've done in a specific year. As far as I know the World Cup was not held last year.

 

[soccerpk]

Originally posted by Mikey
If it had to be a greek player, itd be Zagorakis.

Most definitely.

I think Deco will win it, even though he was not good in the Euro tournament.

And no way, C. Ronaldo should not even be considered, IMO. Charisteas should not either. Zagorakis should... he was MVP, I would vote for him, but he probably won't win it... and I am biased.

PK

 

[Vedran-10]

Originally posted by -Vince-
I didn't take it seriously, it just amazed me how you could bring up Seedorf in your argument


Ronaldinho had some worldclass players surrounding him last season. Definitely a squad which could have won something.


You don't get the Balon d'Or 2004 for your career achievements but for what you've done in a specific year. As far as I know the World Cup was not held last year.

-As I said, I brought up Seedorf because he is the most times CL winner of all active players.Pay attention.

-Ronaldinho had some class players in the team but the truth is he was playing by himself for a good part of the season as no one else was in a good form to assume a part of the responsiblity.

-I know the WC wasn't held last year.From what I've read in your posts, a player must achieve something before being recognized as the best.Ronaldinho achieved something.He won the WC.

But it's not like it matters.I just think he should win it but I wouldn't be gutted if he doesn't.There is a future ahead of him and I'm sure that he'll prove himself to everyone and win Ballon d'Or, FIFA best player etc.He is yet to reach his peak IMO.

 

[jani]

Seedorf is a good player, why are you guys laughing him off?

 

[Vedran-10]

Originally posted by Shevchenko-[7]
Seedorf is a good player, why are you guys laughing him off?

I'm not.I don't doubt his quality but I am saying that he can't conquer for the award.That's all.I just broght him up to prove a point.And read my posts, where did I laugh him off?
I only said he's not even close to being the best.That's hardly an insult.There are better players than him who deserve it more.IMO.