Brazil vs. New Zealand [R]

[Lean]

Funny...


Ok lets start at the begginning...

Wise move.

For those of you who again mentioned ronaldo not starting and he being untouchable - let's make one thing clear - the discussion here is not about him starting or not. That was never a question - He is and will be starting every match there is no doubt unless things go really bad his way. I, and as far back as I read the thread, no one here said otherwise.

When I say he is not untouchable I mean by replacing him..

Look, Parreira is only subbing Ronaldo to give him some rest, that i'm sure of. I strongly believe that, if he has to sub a forward, he's going to sub Adriano.

For the one that said he will be subbed a game or two too late I agree... But he will be subbed. HE IS NOT UNTOUCHABLE.

I say he is untouchable, and you say he's not. You agreeing with me or not, that's your business.

Dont think you know everything and ssay to someone you dont know doesnt know what they're talking about

In English, please. And when i talk about something, i truly believe what i'm saying. So yes, that's conviction. If i'm wrong or not, we can find it out later.

Here are the facts. Ronaldo is not the same player as he was 4 years ago. Does parreira have the utmost confidence in him, yes. Will he keep him if he doesnt perform throughout the championsip, no. He knows he has talents of superb quality on the bench and Ronaldo's name and need for beating all records will not hold his place on second halves if he starts getting tired and underperforming. Parreira has showed he believes in a couple of his subs - Robinho mostly - and If Adriano plays well and Ronaldo doesnt he will be subbed - there is no doubt. And for those of you who think its crazy - grow up. This is football -

I dont think it's crazy to sub Ronaldo, in the matter of fact, if he's not on form he should be subbed alright. You're proving my point aswell, when you say "if he starts getting tired". For these issues, there are rests, and Parreira is giving him a rest if we are qualified at the 3rd game. In desperate situations, he's not changing one forward for another too. Robinho will come on, but it can be in another position, he doesnt have to sub Adriano or Ronaldo for that matter.

Ronaldo wont lose his starting position at the WC. Even if he's subbed in one game or another, he's starting the next one.

There were times when removing ronaldo was insane - there were times when removing romario was insane and in the peak of that time he didnt get called to the wc - because he was injured? no - because the youngsters were performing better. This the reality.

Robinho is NOT performing better than Ronaldo at Madrid, or the seleção for that matter. So when you refer to youngsters performing better this time around, i ask to you, who? On the Romario case, point taken, but there's no youngster performing better than Ronaldo at the moment.

Really mate - - mates - grow up, Ronaldo has all the free passes he wants with the coach and the country but when crunch time comes and if hes not fit and ready he will be out - I hope it doesnt happen but youre giving too much credit to parreira - he will do what the country has been begging him to do - put robinho - and if adriano is scoring goals and playing well the one to walk will be ronaldo. Simple mathematics - only not obvious to blind fans - or children.

Again, if he's not fit. You're proving my point once again. Of course he wont play if he's not fit. If he's fit to play, he will play. And on desperate situations, he's not taking Ronaldo nor Adriano out. He will bring Robinho to play alongside them. There's always something to expect from Ronaldo. Robinho is hot and cold.

Falo cara - na boa cresce ai e deixa de achar que ce sabe mais que todo mundo - malandro, aqui nao tem bobo nao - e ce acha que porque voce e brasileiro ce tem mais info - o que voce e e um otario entre tantos - existem 180 milhoes de brasileiros mais inteligenetes que voce pelo visto - paz....

Funny, coming from someone calling people children all post long.

 

[WilliamFAlmeida]

Look, Parreira is only subbing Ronaldo to give him some rest, that i'm sure of

Nahhhh Im sure it has to do with things like blisters and injuries....thats why he's been subbed everytime.

 

[Kibe Kru]

Last match, blisters, probably. Him being subbed won't happen at World Cup unless the fatso asks for it because he is missing that pie so badly he can't wait until the match is over.

 

[WilliamFAlmeida]

see, comments like that are just ridiculously bias.

In the World Cup if Adriano is on form more than Ronaldo than Parreira will get rid of the fab four, and place:

Kaka-----------R10
-------Adriano

 

[Kibe Kru]

define bias, please.

I may hate the guy, disagree with the coach and dislike the national team but that sure as hell ain't bias

 

[Gene Reginato]

Falo cara - na boa cresce ai e deixa de achar que ce sabe mais que todo mundo - malandro, aqui nao tem bobo nao - e ce acha que porque voce e brasileiro ce tem mais info - o que voce e e um otario entre tantos - existem 180 milhoes de brasileiros mais inteligenetes que voce pelo visto - paz....

HAHAHA...There is nothing like people pretending to be badasses on the INTERNET...

 

[WilliamFAlmeida]

C'mon Kibe....

this:

I may hate the guy, disagree with the coach and dislike the national team but that sure as hell ain't bias

is what makes you bias. We're all bias. there is no one objective.

 

[Lean]

Nahhhh Im sure it has to do with things like blisters and injuries....thats why he's been subbed everytime.

Yes, and that means he cant play 90 mins yet. So he's being subbed, and therefore, he's being given a rest aswell.

 

[RUSI]

So what will be Brasil's #1 line-up?

Will Ze Roberto really start !?

I'd think they would have more talented players to start than him.

 

[Kibe Kru]

this:


is what makes you bias. We're all bias. there is no one objective.

If that's bias, Grunger wants Brazil to lose too, as well as hate Ronaldo. Because he's been saying the same stuff. Ronaldo will only get subbed out for rest. Hell, he had a friggin convulsion the day of the match in 98... If that's not a reason to get him sitting on the bench, I don't know what is. Oh, and Zagallo was the coach then, where's the old fart now?

Bias is asking an english about the ball in 1966... What is plain to see can't be bias. It's not bias if someone says Ronaldinho is good. Or that the Earth is round.

 

[Callum]

Is juninho gonna get some quality playing time or is he doomed to the bench.

can anyone answer that? or is it unsure.

 

[Kibe Kru]

At first Parreira's gonna stick to the tried and trusted midfield of Kaka, Ronaldinho, Ze Roberto and Emerson. If we face some decent side and/or we feel we need more cover at the back, well... knowing Parreira nothing will happen, but I'd guess he'd at least try to use Juninho instead of Kaka. Not much time for him though, which is a shame.

 

[Gene Reginato]

At first Parreira's gonna stick to the tried and trusted midfield of Kaka, Ronaldinho, Ze Roberto and Emerson. If we face some decent side and/or we feel we need more cover at the back, well... knowing Parreira nothing will happen, but I'd guess he'd at least try to use Juninho instead of Kaka. Not much time for him though, which is a shame.

There is still the possibility of removing Adriano and putting Juninho in his place, so Ronaldinho can play like he does in Barcelona. I would wait and see on that one.

 

[Callum]

Juninho is better than Ze Roberto and emerson in my opinion, what a shame

 

[Hendrik]

There has to be at least one defensive minded midfielder in the team and that's Emerson. Anything else would be suicide.

 

[Callum]

There has to be at least one defensive minded midfielder in the team and that's Emerson. Anything else would be suicide.

That is true, but juninho can play on the left for ze roberto, he does for Lyon occassionally depending on his other midfielders. But I know he can't run up and down the wings like a regular winger.