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Gunman kills 28 in Connecticut school

Hisashi

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This guy.......


Twenty school children were slaughtered by a heavily armed gunman who opened fire at a suburban elementary school in Connecticut on Friday, killing at least 27 people including himself in the one of the worst mass shootings in US history.

The 20-year-old gunman, who law

Authorities found 18 children and seven adults, including the gunman, dead at the school, and two children were pronounced dead later after being taken to a hospital.


A woman waits to hear about her sister, a teacher, following a shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. AP photo


Another adult was found dead at a related crime scene in Newtown, bringing the toll to 28, state police Lieutenant Paul Vance said.

As reports of the shooting spread, panicked parents rushed to the school searching for their children as students covered in blood were being carried out of the building.

President Barack Obama, wiping away tears and pausing to collect his emotions in an address to the nation, mourned the 'beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old' who were killed.

"Our hearts are broken today, for the parents, and grandparents, sisters and brothers of these little children and for the families of the adults who were lost," Obama said, his voice cracking.

This undated Facebook photo shows alleged school shooter Ryan Lanza, 24. AFP PHOTO



"Our hearts are broken for the parents of the survivors as well, for as blessed as they are to have their children home tonight, they know that their children's innocence has been torn away from them too early and there are no words that will ease their pain," said Obama, who has two young daughters.

"Evil visited this community today," Connecticut governor Dannel Malloy told reporters.

The New York Times reported that the gunman walked into a classroom where his mother was a teacher, shot his mother and then 20 students, most in the same classroom, before shooting five other adults and killing himself.

Adam Lanza's brother, Ryan Lanza, was 'either in custody or being questioned,' a law enforcement source said.

The gunman was dead inside the school, Vance said. The Times reported he used a Sig Sauer and a Glock, both handguns, and said police also found at the scene a Bushmaster .223 M4 carbine, a rifle, that they believe belonged to him.

The holiday season tragedy was the second shooting rampage in the United States this week and the latest in a series of mass killings this year, and was certain to revive a debate about US gun laws.

Police, parents swarm school
Chaos struck as children gathered in their classrooms for morning meetings at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, a wealthy, wooded suburb of 27,000 in Fairfield County, about 80 miles northeast of New York City.

Images from the scene showed children being led away in single file, each child's hands clutching the shoulders of the one in front. Police wearing body armor and carrying rifles swarmed the scene and locked down the school.

Distraught parents converged, frantically searching for their daughters and sons. Neighbors and friends wandered in shock, looking for information.

"We can't believe this," said Kinga Walsh, 47, a mother of four who was Christmas shopping when she heard there had been a shooting at the school. "Newtown is a quiet, nice place. It's a small, tight-knit community."

Nearly 12 hours later, the bodies of the dead children, adults and gunman remained in the school awaiting identification.

World leaders express shock over latest US shooting
Obama ordered flags flown at half-staff at US public buildings.

"As a country, we have been through this too many times," Obama said, ticking off a list of recent shootings.


Young children wait outside Sandy Hook Elementary School after a shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. REUTERS


"We're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics," Obama said in apparent reference to the influence of the National Rifle Association over members of Congress.

Obama remains committed to trying to renew a ban on assault weapons, White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

The Connecticut shootings appear certain to trigger renewed debate over US gun laws. New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, founder of the advocacy group Mayors Against Illegal Guns, said it was "almost impossible to believe that a mass shooting in a kindergarten class could happen.

"We need immediate action. We have heard all the rhetoric before. What we have not seen is leadership - not from the White House and not from Congress," he said. "That must end today."

Outside the White House gates, about 200 people rallied on a cold evening in favor of gun restrictions.

French President Francois Hollande, in an open letter to Obama, said he was 'horrified' by the shootings.

Britain's Queen Elizabeth II on Friday told US President Barack Obama she was 'deeply shocked and saddened' by the US school massacre that left 28 people dead, in a rare public response to the tragedy.

In a message beginning "Dear President Obama", the 86-year-old monarch said: "I have been deeply shocked and saddened to learn of the dreadful loss of life today in Newtown, Connecticut; particularly the news that so many of the dead are children.


Parents leave a staging area after being reunited with their children following a shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.AP Photo


British Prime Minister David Cameron said, "It is heartbreaking to think of those who have had their children robbed from them at such a young age, when they had so much life ahead of them."

UN secretary general Ban Ki-moon expressed his condolences and called the targeting of children 'heinous and unthinkable.'

Bloodied children leave school
Vance said the shootings took place in two rooms of Sandy Hook Elementary. Witnesses reported hearing dozens of shots; some said as many as 100 rounds.

"It was horrendous," said parent Brenda Lebinski, who rushed to the school where her daughter is in the third grade. "Everyone was in hysterics - parents, students. There were kids coming out of the school bloodied."

Lebinski said a mother who was at the school during the shooting told her a 'masked man' entered the principal's office and may have shot the principal.

Melissa Murphy, who lives near the school, monitored events on a police scanner.

"I kept hearing them call for the mass casualty kit and scream, ‘Send everybody! Send everybody!'" she said. "It doesn't seem like it can be really happening. I feel like I'm in shock."

The toll exceeded that of one of the most notorious US school shootings, the 1999 rampage at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, where two teenagers killed 13 students and staff before killing themselves.

A girl described to NBC Connecticut hearing seven loud 'booms' while she was in gym class. Other children began crying and teachers moved the students to an office, she said.

"A police officer came in and told us to run outside and so we did," the unidentified girl said on camera.

(With inputs from AFP and AP)

Whats happening with america just a few while back there were also killings ?
 

kp41

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really sad news ...
I hate it when innocent children are victims ...

hopefully Obama and USA will open their eyes and change gun selling laws ...
 

Alex

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Innocent children, and being so close to Christmas, it's just terrible.

Imagine the poor parents and families. I point out the holiday season - not because there is ever a good time to take a life - but because these parents and families will have even more constant reminders over the next little while of how life was unreasonably taken from those they love.
 

clash

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kp40;3361187 said:
hopefully Obama and USA will open their eyes and change gun selling laws ...

Well, not selling guns at every Walmart might fix SOME problems, but it's not just the guns, it would be very naive to think that cracking down on weapons alone will solve anything. Statistics on how many mass-murderes have used legal guns/how many from the black market would be interesting. Shit like this can't be stopped with laws, it's already illegal to kill children. Although, yes, I agree it should me made harder for people - most of these killers have been social rejects, geeks, if you may. They might not have any connects where to get a firearm on the black market...but still my point stands, we can't only hope for a new bill to change things around.

Getting a gun in the USA or anywhere in Europe hasn't got any easier than it has been in the past few years, but shootings like this are more and more common and frequent. It's a social issue, we need a lot more drastic chnges than just revisiting the gun laws. There have always been maniacs around, but they haven't always been going on the rampage like this. It's a result of the iSociety - schizophrenic success fetish and social pressure to fit in, which eventaully could turn everyone failing at it, into a potential killer.

[SIZE="-5"]sorries for the leftist-hippie-esque rant.[/SIZE]
 

MaestroZidane

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clash;3361396 said:
Well, not selling guns at every Walmart might fix SOME problems, but it's not just the guns, it would be very naive to think that cracking down on weapons alone will solve anything. Statistics on how many mass-murderes have used legal guns/how many from the black market would be interesting. Shit like this can't be stopped with laws, it's already illegal to kill children. Although, yes, I agree it should me made harder for people - most of these killers have been social rejects, geeks, if you may. They might not have any connects where to get a firearm on the black market...but still my point stands, we can't only hope for a new bill to change things around.

Getting a gun in the USA or anywhere in Europe hasn't got any easier than it has been in the past few years, but shootings like this are more and more common and frequent. It's a social issue, we need a lot more drastic chnges than just revisiting the gun laws. There have always been maniacs around, but they haven't always been going on the rampage like this. It's a result of the iSociety - schizophrenic success fetish and social pressure to fit in, which eventaully could turn everyone failing at it, into a potential killer.

[SIZE="-5"]sorries for the leftist-hippie-esque rant.[/SIZE]

That's the one part that people need to look at. Look at what has happen in China in the last couple of years, crazy men going into elementary schools and attacking children with knives. Then there's the attack in Norway last year.

Now I will say that being able to purchase a gun here in the U.S should require some sort of psychological testing, and you should only be able to buy handguns. I also don't see the need or reason to be selling automatic weapons to every day people. This of course won't eliminate the problem of being able to get one thru the black market overnight, but maybe it can help put a dent on it?
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
And no one died in that knife attack in China. Guns have no legitimate purpose in my mind. If you want to hunt there are several high end crossbows that are just as good.

But it's ridiculous to think that this is something Obama has caused or could fix. That dude was crying on TV over this, he's not the one who wants guns legal for every asshole in this country.
 

yoyo913

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The picture of the guy is not him, just some dude with the same name people searched on facebook.
 

Bobby

The Legend
I'll never be convinced that people need some of the weapons that are legal here. Some of this stuff is some shit you'd see in a war.
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
Anyway, if you non-Americans want proof about how evil Republicans are, this is your issue. "Keep the right to possess assault weapons!" "This is because we don't pray in schools!"

Obama can't do shit about gun control, that's not how our government work. The Republicans in the legislature will literally block ANY ATTEMPT to restrict guns. Why? Because campaigns are expensive, and they raise a lot of money from the National Rifle Association.
 

MaestroZidane

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Well on that latest attack, I was glad to hear that no kids died, unfortunately that hasn't been the case in the previous attacks on school children.

ShiftyPowers;3361589 said:
Anyway, if you non-Americans want proof about how evil Republicans are, this is your issue. "Keep the right to possess assault weapons!" "This is because we don't pray in schools!"

Obama can't do shit about gun control, that's not how our government work. The Republicans in the legislature will literally block ANY ATTEMPT to restrict guns. Why? Because campaigns are expensive, and they raise a lot of money from the National Rifle Association.

Now that's not very nice, to paint all Republicans with a broad-brush. You can surely find a great amount of republicans that will back gun control.

Now liberals on the other hand, if not for them, we could easily execute murderers and rapist and the U.S would be that much safer. :sKIp_E:
 

Alex

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ShiftyPowers;3361507 said:
And no one died in that knife attack in China. Guns have no legitimate purpose in my mind. If you want to hunt there are several high end crossbows that are just as good.

But it's ridiculous to think that this is something Obama has caused or could fix. That dude was crying on TV over this, he's not the one who wants guns legal for every asshole in this country.

I've grown up hunting, and that statement is very wrong.

However Australian gun laws are far and away more strict than American ones, and you don't see incidents like this here (at least not since Port Arthur - which led to him law reform).

Every weapon owned here has to be registered to a licensed owner. It has to be stored locked, and locked in a state cabinet to the ammunition. To get a gun license you need to show that you either shoot as sport, which requires you to be a member of a registered club and attend so many events for that club each year, or you need to show that you are a Prost producer - and use the weapon on your land as part of the job.

You cannot carry a firearm on you at any time in public. And as I said when you aren't hunting/at a sports shooting meet, the firearm and the ammo need to be stored separately, in approved storage solutions, and under lock and key.

All this minimises the risk of someone using someone else's firearm for the wrong purpose.

There will always be the black market, but you tend to find that the public shootings are rarely weapons the black market. These are more often used in gang activity etc which is a completely separate problem.
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
Alex;3361685 said:
I've grown up hunting, and that statement is very wrong.

Counter point:

 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
MaestroZidane;3361652 said:
Now that's not very nice, to paint all Republicans with a broad-brush. You can surely find a great amount of republicans that will back gun control.

This isn't 1975. If there are 5 in the House of Representatives I would be stunned.

Now liberals on the other hand, if not for them, we could easily execute murderers and rapist and the U.S would be that much safer. :sKIp_E:

Murderers and rapists don't frequently get out and kill/rape again. When it happens we hear alllll about it because it's shocking and horrible, but it's not like this is a huge part of the crime stats.
 

Alex

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ShiftyPowers;3361589 said:
Anyway, if you non-Americans want proof about how evil Republicans are, this is your issue. "Keep the right to possess assault weapons!" "This is because we don't pray in schools!"

Obama can't do shit about gun control, that's not how our government work. The Republicans in the legislature will literally block ANY ATTEMPT to restrict guns. Why? Because campaigns are expensive, and they raise a lot of money from the National Rifle Association.

I have some good American friends on Facebook, and one of them posted saying that whilst he was a gun owner, it was time the second amendment was looked at.

The comments from his fellow American friends amazed and shocked me. They were saying things like "The problem was that no one was allowed to carry a gun in the school to defend those children and shoot that fucker".

I was astonished that they believed that the answer was more guns.

Another chick said she hadn't grown up with guns at all, but now carries a concealed weapon on her handbag. So someone with very little gun knowledge, carries a firearm around with her, all of the time. Ready for anyone to take out of her handbag, or for her to get scared panic and shoot someone or even herself.

Handguns are much much harder ti get licenses for in Australia too - and as mentioned, no one can carry a firearm around with them in public apart from police and some registered security.
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
Yes, half the country think they are Rambo. I'm sure it would have really brought down the casualties to have a big firefight. The shooter had a 4 weapons and an assault rifle, so I guess the answer is to have an arsenal in the principal's office? What if the principal goes crazy? Fucking idiots. Even Rupert Murdock is like "gun control now morons" citing the Port Arthur Massacre.

 


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