Gunman kills 28 in Connecticut school

[MaestroZidane]

I've grown up hunting, and that statement is very wrong.

However Australian gun laws are far and away more strict than American ones, and you don't see incidents like this here (at least not since Port Arthur - which led to him law reform).

Every weapon owned here has to be registered to a licensed owner. It has to be stored locked, and locked in a state cabinet to the ammunition. To get a gun license you need to show that you either shoot as sport, which requires you to be a member of a registered club and attend so many events for that club each year, or you need to show that you are a Prost producer - and use the weapon on your land as part of the job.

You cannot carry a firearm on you at any time in public. And as I said when you aren't hunting/at a sports shooting meet, the firearm and the ammo need to be stored separately, in approved storage solutions, and under lock and key.

All this minimises the risk of someone using someone else's firearm for the wrong purpose.

There will always be the black market, but you tend to find that the public shootings are rarely weapons the black market. These are more often used in gang activity etc which is a completely separate problem.

I like the sound of this.

And Shifty, I was actually referring to republicans that are not part of government. Government representatives will not risk pissing off those that back and fund them, no matter how controversial the issue is. In this case, the republicans going against the NRA. Maybe you're right, Obama and the Democrats can't do much about this issue, but it's worth taking a shot (no pun intended) at it. It would surely put the republicans at odds with the people, after such an event.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Okay sure. I didn't mean everyone who votes Republican is evil.

 

[MaestroZidane]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushmaster_M4_Type_Carbine

Look at that thing!

As I mention before, no regular citizen should be able to buy one of these. Anyone remember the 1997 North Hollywood shootout? Two heavily armed men were able to go up against dozens of officers, only to be killed when officers went into a gun store and get similar weapons.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

A lot of that was also the armor piercing bullets and head to toe body armor. Available at Walmart!

 

[Alex]

All semi automatics and automatics are illegal in Australia. Which rules out assault rifles too.

The shops that sell the guns and ammo also need to be licensed too, and getting a license for that is much harder than I imagine it would be in the USA. You don't get walmart equivalents over here selling anything to do with guns

 

[MaestroZidane]

A lot of that was also the armor piercing bullets and head to toe body armor. Available at Walmart!

Yeah! there was that as well.

And so again, some of the backlash goes towards Hollywood and eventually video games.

http://news.yahoo.com/hollywood-responds-deadly-conn-school-shooting-022755277.html

That's were I draw the line, It's the parents responsibility to monitor what their kids watch, not other adults.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

That Bank Robbery was one of the most incredible things I've ever seen and it's like nobody outside of... like North Hollywood... even remembers that it happened.

 

[Bobby]

All semi automatics and automatics are illegal in Australia. Which rules out assault rifles too.

The shops that sell the guns and ammo also need to be licensed too, and getting a license for that is much harder than I imagine it would be in the USA. You don't get walmart equivalents over here selling anything to do with guns

You should see some of the ramshackle places that sell guns here. Most Pawn Shops here could outfit a small nation's military.

 

[MaestroZidane]

That Bank Robbery was one of the most incredible things I've ever seen and it's like nobody outside of... like North Hollywood... even remembers that it happened.

Yes it was, I remember turning on the T.V and watching it as it was happening. That place it's a ten minute drive from where I live, and it was also an area I frequented every other weekend. So after that incident, I made it a priority to visit that bank.

 

[Bobby]

I thought the President spoke well tonight and I hope some good comes of it.

 

[King]

Right to bear arms is so wrong!!

You can pretty much buy an anti aircraft gun in some states with virtually no checks!!!!

 

[Bobby]

 

[King]

NRA's president's argument was that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to arm good guys with guns! Lol!

 

[Bobby]

He also blamed video games. He specifically mentioned Mortal Kombat which makes me think he lives in a world where it's always 1993.

 

[King]

Haha! Such a dumbass!

It's like saying you know we will put this deadly virus out there for all of you to have full access. The only way for you to not get infected is you infect that bad guy first and kill him so you will be safe.

But wait he doesn't see the more simple and logical solution of just taking that deadly virus off the market so the bad guy doesn't have access to it in the first place and you don't need to arm yourself with that virus in order for you to protect yourself from it.

 

[regularcat]

Right to bear arms is so wrong!!

You can pretty much buy an anti aircraft gun in some states with virtually no checks!!!!

i am going to disagree with this comment partially, i will agree with the fact there should be better background checks and some form of standards required to own or possess any type of deadly weapon.

whether it is a gun shop or a street corner in the united states you will always be able to get your hands on a gun of any caliber or type, clean or with bodies on it.

what we need is a law that states a life for life, if you take one you lose your own and that will pretty much resolve the issue with some exceptions to pure lunatics who are not in their right mind and do not have the mental capacity to make good decisions.

to take away the right to bear arms would be unfair to those who can make good decisions and only own deadly weapons for means of self defense.

 

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[Theodorakis]

He also blamed video games. He specifically mentioned Mortal Kombat which makes me think he lives in a world where it's always 1993.

he mentioned mortal kombat? he can't be serious..

speaking of which, I found a 1 hour long youtube video showing all the fatalities from mortal kombat 1 to mortal kombat 9.. half way over, arms were being chopped off, hearts were removed, heads blown, I felt my stomach sick.. this comes with age I guess..

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I think the point is that these aren't drug cartels or gang bangers with access to black market firearms that are shooting up schools. Also criminal penalties for gun crimes in no gun zones are greatly increased. That won't stop maniacs perhaps, but it could deter lesser criminals.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

i am going to disagree with this comment partially, i will agree with the fact there should be better background checks and some form of standards required to own or possess any type of deadly weapon.

whether it is a gun shop or a street corner in the united states you will always be able to get your hands on a gun of any caliber or type, clean or with bodies on it.

what we need is a law that states a life for life, if you take one you lose your own and that will pretty much resolve the issue with some exceptions to pure lunatics who are not in their right mind and do not have the mental capacity to make good decisions.

to take away the right to bear arms would be unfair to those who can make good decisions and only own deadly weapons for means of self defense.

Disagree with this entire post. I certainly can't always get an automatic rifle "with bodies on it" and I doubt any of these white suburban criminals could either. The Columbine kids had contacts like that, really?