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hmm..netherlands is missing
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MadAZNFootballe
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Originally posted by Danimal
I underline that as a Dutchman....
I mean come on: v/d Sar, Westerveld; Reiziger, Stam, Cocu, F.de Boer, v. Bronckhorst, Zenden, Bouma, Ooijer; Seedorf, Sneijder, Davids, v. Bommel, v/d Vaart, Kluivert; v. Nistelrooy, Hasselbaink, v. Hooijdonk, Makaay, Overmars, v/d Meyde, Robben, R. de Boer:
There all worldclass. You name me one worldclass national team that has it strikers positions tripple-taken. France -no-, Italy -no-, Brazil -maybe-, England -definitley not-, Germany -Don't make me laugh-
Wait 'till Euro2004; we'll show y'all what soccer is about!!!!!
D.animal
Dude Italy has a front line of Del Piero, Totti, and Vieri....their bench with Montella and Inzaghi can kick Holland's ass(remember Euro 2000)...nuff said..
And we all remember how well Vieri played in last years Champions League final and how well he played against Arsenal recently.
His best days are WAY behind him....as are his days at Inter.
How'd Italy do in the last World Cup?
I rest my case.
Though at least they qualified :P
I'd take the Dutch trio over those Italian dinosaurs anyday as far as players go. The Dutch are amazing for their club teams. Just crap for country.
ON PAPER Holland has no equals except for maybe Brazil. Problem is they seem to hate playing for their country and/or just have no teamwork. We'll see how the younger wave (vd Vaart et. al) want to play. I'd honest;y like to see them scrap Davids, Seedorf, the De Boers and especially Kluivert for younger players.
Kluivert has issues and has played terribly for two seasons. His finishing (except for maybe the past couple of games) for Barcelona hasn't gotten the job done.
MadAZNFootballe
Youth Team
Holland is a good team but.....the only skilled players they have are Overmars and Van Nistelrooy and they really need to scrap Van De Sar he sucks major balls..........as for Vieri yea hes crap for his club but at every major international tournament (ie World Cup) He has always been the go-to guy
americangreg
Reserve Team
You dutch people all see it on the bright side.. I think the results will be something more like this:
NL - GER 1-1
NL - LTV 2-0
NL - CHZ 1-3
You dutchies like to exagerate everything. When Holland lost to Scotland 1-0 EVERYONE nailed advocaat and there was NO ONE in the country that had something positive to say about the national team. Now they win a game 6-0 (nothing special, holland SHOULD be the better team of the 2) and again Holland think they can beat anyone. You'll see, you won't even get through the group stage...
Portugal will win Euro 2004, although I hope Spain will win it..
NL - GER 1-1
NL - LTV 2-0
NL - CHZ 1-3
You dutchies like to exagerate everything. When Holland lost to Scotland 1-0 EVERYONE nailed advocaat and there was NO ONE in the country that had something positive to say about the national team. Now they win a game 6-0 (nothing special, holland SHOULD be the better team of the 2) and again Holland think they can beat anyone. You'll see, you won't even get through the group stage...
Portugal will win Euro 2004, although I hope Spain will win it..
americangreg
Reserve Team
Hehe, well, I don't always agree with my fellow americans either. I think that might be coz I'm half spanish 
Anywayz, I think Holland is over its top.. Euro 2000 was their chance, but they blew it, so they'll have to wait for a new generation...
And NO, that doesn't mean changing 2 or 3 players of the team. I mean they'll have to wait for at least another 4-5 years...
Anywayz, I think Holland is over its top.. Euro 2000 was their chance, but they blew it, so they'll have to wait for a new generation...
And NO, that doesn't mean changing 2 or 3 players of the team. I mean they'll have to wait for at least another 4-5 years...
I just want to say a few words:
First of all MadAZNFootballer,
I agree whit u that Del Piero, Totti,Vieri and Inzaghi are worldclass strikers, I dont count Montella
But Holland has more players of worldclass.
Most of them are strikers:
And I think every1 will agree that those players are worldclass players:
- Patrick Kluivert
Lots of people are talking about the bad performance of Holland and especially Kluivert, but common it can't be 1 out of 11 players who ruins the whole team, thats impossible. I do agree Kluivert is really crap the last few seasons but I'm really suprised people dont have respect for him. He was one of the players around 1995 who won the worldcup for clubteams, he played a big part in it. After this worldcup he played lots of games scroring a lot. Thats why Barcelona bought him when they were playing well in the Spanish League. He has a long history and is the alltime topscrorer for Holland. He scored more goals than Bergkamp or Marco van Basten. U cant say he is a bad player. Now everyone lets him down. But I can imagine some people think about Kluivert like not playing good for Holland.
- Ruud van Nistelrooij
Well I dont have to say much bout him. He is a excellent striker.
Thats also why he playes for Man Utd. And he still does. Great striker. He also has a long way to go whit Holland
- Roy Makaay
When you are the topscorer of the Primera Divisione that says a lot. There are some great strikers in the Spanish league and he was one of the best last season. Now playing for Bayern he still shows his qualities to us all.
- Jimmy Floyd Hassebaink
Hasselbaink is also a great striker. He has a nice powerfull shot and also scores a lot in the Premier League. Unfortunately he doesn't play that much anymore for Chelski. But still a good striker.
- Pierre van Hooijdonk
I think this is a very rare player. He is not the best striker scoring goals by making nice moves but still a good striker.
Winning the Uefacup for a club like Feyenoord is a really good performance. He was there when he had to be there for the team. It is very good to make a club champion which has not very much quality players of worldclass. Also still shows his skills in Turkey. Last weekend scored 2 times for Fenerbache. Headers are not really a issue for him.
Van Hooijdonk is far out the best freekick specialist from a distance of aproximately 20/25meters.
Italy was very lucky at Euro2000 (or Holland very unlucky). I think if you saw the game u wouldn't be saying that Italy kicked ass
Missing 2 penalties and some big chances Holland doesnt do very often. And they were very close to scoring but they missed the finishing touch.
Americangreg:
I dont know how u came to the point of telling that in Holland had something positive to say. U shouldn't believe everything that the press says. After the game a newspaper also said things bout the players private life and they're were also wrong. The paper apoligised 4 it, but in the mean while CNN also copied it etc. Thats why most of the players didnt talk to the press for some days. Except Sneijder and van de Vaart.
I agree that the scores I put above were a bit optimistic
But that was just to get this threat started and I think I'm succeed
But they really are able to beat any national team in the world.
And erm.. I don't think they have to wait 4 or 5 years till the next generation. Holland has some young players which could be able to play in Portugal'04:
Rafael van de Vaart, Wesley Sneijder, Nigel de Jong, Robin van Persie, Arjen Robben.
Well this is all I had to say, for now
Have fun playing FIFA
First of all MadAZNFootballer,
I agree whit u that Del Piero, Totti,Vieri and Inzaghi are worldclass strikers, I dont count Montella
But Holland has more players of worldclass.
Most of them are strikers:
And I think every1 will agree that those players are worldclass players:
- Patrick Kluivert
Lots of people are talking about the bad performance of Holland and especially Kluivert, but common it can't be 1 out of 11 players who ruins the whole team, thats impossible. I do agree Kluivert is really crap the last few seasons but I'm really suprised people dont have respect for him. He was one of the players around 1995 who won the worldcup for clubteams, he played a big part in it. After this worldcup he played lots of games scroring a lot. Thats why Barcelona bought him when they were playing well in the Spanish League. He has a long history and is the alltime topscrorer for Holland. He scored more goals than Bergkamp or Marco van Basten. U cant say he is a bad player. Now everyone lets him down. But I can imagine some people think about Kluivert like not playing good for Holland.
- Ruud van Nistelrooij
Well I dont have to say much bout him. He is a excellent striker.
Thats also why he playes for Man Utd. And he still does. Great striker. He also has a long way to go whit Holland
- Roy Makaay
When you are the topscorer of the Primera Divisione that says a lot. There are some great strikers in the Spanish league and he was one of the best last season. Now playing for Bayern he still shows his qualities to us all.
- Jimmy Floyd Hassebaink
Hasselbaink is also a great striker. He has a nice powerfull shot and also scores a lot in the Premier League. Unfortunately he doesn't play that much anymore for Chelski. But still a good striker.
- Pierre van Hooijdonk
I think this is a very rare player. He is not the best striker scoring goals by making nice moves but still a good striker.
Winning the Uefacup for a club like Feyenoord is a really good performance. He was there when he had to be there for the team. It is very good to make a club champion which has not very much quality players of worldclass. Also still shows his skills in Turkey. Last weekend scored 2 times for Fenerbache. Headers are not really a issue for him.
Van Hooijdonk is far out the best freekick specialist from a distance of aproximately 20/25meters.
Italy was very lucky at Euro2000 (or Holland very unlucky). I think if you saw the game u wouldn't be saying that Italy kicked ass
Missing 2 penalties and some big chances Holland doesnt do very often. And they were very close to scoring but they missed the finishing touch.
Americangreg:
I dont know how u came to the point of telling that in Holland had something positive to say. U shouldn't believe everything that the press says. After the game a newspaper also said things bout the players private life and they're were also wrong. The paper apoligised 4 it, but in the mean while CNN also copied it etc. Thats why most of the players didnt talk to the press for some days. Except Sneijder and van de Vaart.
I agree that the scores I put above were a bit optimistic
But that was just to get this threat started and I think I'm succeed
But they really are able to beat any national team in the world.
And erm.. I don't think they have to wait 4 or 5 years till the next generation. Holland has some young players which could be able to play in Portugal'04:
Rafael van de Vaart, Wesley Sneijder, Nigel de Jong, Robin van Persie, Arjen Robben.
Well this is all I had to say, for now
Have fun playing FIFA
americangreg
Reserve Team
I live in the netherlands dude...
I was there myself and really, only 1 out of 20 persons had something good to say about their national team... Indeed the players were mad, but on that moment almost everyone thought advocaat should go..I know you might be that one person out of the 20 that was positive, but the rest wasn't positive at all...
Ajax 4-ever
Youth Team
Holland have to be in fifa 2004!!! In Portugal we shall see: Netherlands-Germany: 2-0
Netherlands-Latvia: 2-1
Netherlands-Chez: 1-1
Netherlands-Latvia: 2-1
Netherlands-Chez: 1-1
How did you get those results? Did you travel forwards in time, and come back to tell us? LOL.Originally posted by imlovinit
U cant just ignore the fact that holland is not in the game.
It is a team which cant be ignored just like that.
England actually is nothin compared 2 holland
We'll c it all in Portugal
Just can't wait.
Holland - Germany 3-0
Holland - Latvia 5-0
Holland - Chez 2-1
That should be enough
Next round:
England - Holland 0-4
The nightmare of England: Holland
But seriously tho, if they put an effort into the whole tournament like they did against the poor Scots, then they will go very far. Will they win it? Time will tell.
But Greece will beat Portugal in the opening match! That I can guarantee you all!
americangreg
Reserve Team
I'd love that! Coz Spain will take revenge on Greece, and then they'll win from Russia and Portugal too, so spain will go through
If Cristiano Ronaldo is there, just behind Pauleta, believe me: GREECE IS DOOMED. And Spain also... Scolari said that he'll play with a 4x2x2x2 system, with 2 defensive midfielders, 2 offensive mids, and a free forward behind the striker Pauleta. And if that free forward is Ronaldo, believe me, you won't live up to tell everyone else
Russia, I don't know them very well as a team. Just a few players, like Sergey Ovchinnikov, Dimitry Alenitchev, Yegor Titov, Alexander Mostovoi, Ruslan Nigmatulin, Ruslan Pimenov, Dimitry Sychev or Dimitry Los'kov. As a team, never saw them, except on very short game highlights. I'm gonna pay more attention to them from now on.
Holland looks a very insecure team. They have some of the world's best players, like Kluivert, Nistelrooy, Jaap Stam, but as a team, they have a few failures, and so, we have to wait and see.
Russia, I don't know them very well as a team. Just a few players, like Sergey Ovchinnikov, Dimitry Alenitchev, Yegor Titov, Alexander Mostovoi, Ruslan Nigmatulin, Ruslan Pimenov, Dimitry Sychev or Dimitry Los'kov. As a team, never saw them, except on very short game highlights. I'm gonna pay more attention to them from now on.
Holland looks a very insecure team. They have some of the world's best players, like Kluivert, Nistelrooy, Jaap Stam, but as a team, they have a few failures, and so, we have to wait and see.
americangreg
Reserve Team
Nah, spain'll win the match against portugal