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I do feel sorry for any football fan in America

Hearts_FC

Senior Squad
I've grown acustomed to it.
The biggest reason they hate it is because over here it is associated with the wealthy middle classes. Kind of like our rugby in the UK.
They actually have organisations that were set up to protest/bash "soccer".
 

El Diablo Rojo

Starting XI
What the **** is that article supposed to mean?

What i can say is that in the countries were football is the main sport, it's NOT the only sport, yet in countries like Argentina may have a big difference to the "second favourite sport", but still. At some point this would seem like they don't get that football is popular for its simplicity(get a ball and let your imagination roll, lol, but you get what i mean). And in the other hand it would like a "freedom of choice" propaganda by the 3rd paragraph:

From that article said:
Is it because we have so many other choices?

Serious what the **** is this?
 

WilliamFAlmeida

Starting XI
every WC stupid american journalists publish this garbage...you have to ignore it...
they'll keep publishing it, and the rest of the world will continue to kick their @$$ in it
 

Help?

Fan Favourite
Still soccer is getting bigger and bigger in here. I see more and more news about it and here in Canada even, Rogers network set up 11 new channels for 1 month dedicated purely to the World Cup 24/7! All games live and all analysis :rockman: . And they air them free for those that have Rogers network, which is like pretty much almost everyone who has a tv.
 

MikeyM

Big Daddy
Man what an a$$hole. Like the majority of countries like England, France, Germany, Italy etc don't have technology or high standards of living. Look at Japan for example, the most technically advanced nation in the World - they love football as it is. Over 70% of the World loves football. And do you know why? Because since we could stand and walk most of us have kicked a ball sometime in our lives and that's all you need to play (even tin cans or balls of socks like the kids in the poorest slums of Rio) Football's beauty is in it's simplicity to play and complexity to master.

I sense the real reason he feels like that about football is because the Americans didn't invent it. And I sincierly apologise for any offense caused by the following here (because this is certainly not my intention)

American culture is different. American sports are either in bursts of fast and furious action with regular breaks (Gridiron, Hockey and Basketball) or long affairs like baseball. American sports are typically played at breakneck speed with physicallity and high scores.
Because the American people in my estimation are high tempo type people. American society demands things fast and furious.

You only have to look at the Simpsons' episode where a "soccer" and I hate using that word - match comes to Springfield and the Mexican commentator is all excited at the passing play while the American is falling asleep.

Also the majority of "soccer" grr fans are female in America - the womens game is vastly more popular (the FIFA Women's World Cup sold out every arena) and more people proudly carry "Chastain" on their backs than they do "Adu" or "Donovan" So the game has the stygma of being percieved as a girls and kids' sport while the "macho" tough "jocks" go and get the tar kicked out of them on the gridiron through high-school and beyond.

American males are proud of their masculinity (as we males the world over are) and to them I believe the model of masculinity is to prove yourself in physical combat - that you are faster,better or stronger than the next guy.
A young kid in the US dreams of a gamewinning TD in the Superbowl, or belting a fastball out of Yankee stadium in the deciding game of the World Series.
(Baseball is the one US sport that I will never watch - Ice Hockey, NFL Basketball and wrestling sure - but not baseball. I hardly watch Cricket!

Now in the streets of England, football is percieved as the domain of the man (although a lot more women than ever before enjoy the game) In fact in England, football is to many people - everything. Witness the national hysteria over Wayne Rooney's foot.
Following football is seen as macho (probably as a result of the hardmen and viciousness of the game in the past, the hardness of the ball etc) An attatchment and devotion to your team is viewed as sacrosanct.
Even now that the game is played by flouncing, diving overpaid and overexposed popstars for the most part.
And a young English kid will likely dream of lifting the FA Cup or scoring a Hat-trick in the World Cup Final. Typically that's because the British way of life is generally slower and more serene, football can be viewed as a giant game of chess with moves and countermoves played out - with bursts of individual or team brilliance thrown in.

Football is more than a game to those of us who love it - it's a culture, a religion - a vibrant, living, breathing undescribable entity that links us all (football fans) world wide regardless of the colour of our skin, or the language we speak. And every four years the creme of the world game comes together to decide who is the absolute best. And the majority of us fans come together and watch, and bask in that aura that Football - and the FIFA World Cup in particular provides. And even those whose nations failed to make the final 32, gather to watch.
From a delapidated shack in the African desert where a whole village gathers round a flickering tv to the mega million pound skyscraper in Japan where the game is viewed in high definition plasma technology.
From the favellas of Brazil - to the highstreets of England.
Regardless of wealth or other material factors - all of us equal : As fans of the beautiful game.

And that is why we love football. You can't explain it fully - you just have to feel it.

Mike
 

Tom

That Nice Guy
Hearts_FC said:
I've grown acustomed to it.
The biggest reason they hate it is because over here it is associated with the wealthy middle classes. Kind of like our rugby in the UK.

well said (Y)
 

Drvar

Starting XI
Next time you roll your eyes and dismiss World Cup Soccer as uninteresting or unimportant, thank your lucky stars, and then try to imagine what it must be like not to have everything we have.
Just imagine.
I thank God that I was born in America, where a kid can dream and with a little elbow grease can pursue that dream, have a family and inspire my daughter to pursue her dreams, and have a job where people respect me and where I can make a difference.
Where a young girl can defy the odds and give men a run for their money in the game of golf. Where, no matter what one's race, religion or sexual orientation, he or she can follow his or her dreams as well, whether it be family, careers, arts and leisure and have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness written into the U.S. Constitution for all Americans to enjoy.

wow. this is just some brilliant work right here. touched me deep.
 

FIFAfreak

Youth Team
I don't know... stupid article but does have some kernels of truth to it.

I think the point he's making is that football (soccer) struggles to compete for the entertainment dollar here in the U.S... it's not just competing against other sports here (amateur down to little leagues included), it's competing against EVERYTHING. The choices are endless... anything you can think of (and that's a lot of stuff) and the media barrage that goes with it in all of our hectic lives.

For most people football isn't even on their radar. Heck some people who have kids playing it don't know very much about the US team or the European or world game for that matter. The people who follow it here are a definite minority and not just women either. Yes the game is popular with women but I think that craze has blown over... people who seriously follow the game follow the EPL and European leagues. Heck I never played the game (played baseball like everyone else) but follow it feverishly. Having some sort of exposure to it like English relatives (they don't follow it either!) helps though.

Of course other countries have the same luxuries, wealth and media etc... but the big difference is that in those countries and the poorer ones too football has roots at the street level with kids. Here it is just an organized middle class youth activity. The MLS is just another sports league in the blur of baseball, american football, basketball, hockey, nascar, wrestling on and on etc.

Take a look at Nike's US soccer campaign here and you understand who they're targeting and what they're trying to do... possibly inspire the current and future generations of youth middle and lower classed(a la Tiger Woods) to take up the game at the street level. To just play and kick/dribble a ball. There's nothing wrong with the youth approach here being organized (the Germans and the Dutch are masters of organization) but kids have to just play. The joga bonito campaign supports that idea too.

Yeah there are plenty of football bashers here but I think that will change over time. They don't know what they're missing.
 

Sevillista

Starting XI
Hearts_FC said:
I've grown acustomed to it.
The biggest reason they hate it is because over here it is associated with the wealthy middle classes. Kind of like our rugby in the UK.
They actually have organisations that were set up to protest/bash "soccer".
As an American I can tell you that you are waaaaaaaay off. That's much too complicated a reason. MikeyM I think has the right idea but his post was long. Basically it comes down to this:

1. Americans look at the scores, 1-1, 0-0, 1-0, and they think it's boring because it's 90 minutes and they barely score.
2. In America there is the stereotype that soccer is a sissy sport.

Sportscasters here only reinforce these sentiments. Hotshots like Jim Rome (the Bill O'Reilly of sports) have shows where they act tough and assertive and say soccer isn't a real sport. Furthermore, starting in high school, the fans go to the basketball and football games, facilities are poor for the soccer games, and all of the girls go for the football and basketball players.

There's an ignorance towards soccer here that is deeply entrenched and will only be reversed when sportscasters start giving it some respect and stations start showing more games.
 

bytor

Club Supporter
I always find it hilarious when dumb Yanks use the term "we" when they refer to the US....I don't think average Yanks are as stupid as this guy...so I don't think him using the royal "we" really represents the "mainstream"....this writer obviously doesn't know if it's New York or New Year........all culture, civilization and language was brought there a few hundred years ago from Europe....and dumbasses like this even have nerve to be arrogant about it. My grandfather has underwear older than American civilization.

Oh I forgot...they have the World Series baseball....great world series indeed....the game which is only played by the Yanks.

Check this:

Maybe it has something to do with the widespread availability of broadband Internet connections, where practically any information, videos, news, music, pictures, movie reviews — you name it — are available at the click of a mouse, to say nothing about all of those computers in so many places.

All of this freedom is a result of expendable income.

We work hard, but it is our free market economy that affords us the ability to enjoy all of these distractions on a widespread basis.


Ahh...hit me over the head with a wet fish and call me Nancy..! I almost forgot that free economy and Internet exist only in the US....and what the hell does it have to do with football?

REDNECK is the right word for a hillbilly like this guy......it's ignorant, arrogant idiots like him that give his fellow Americans a bad name.....a warm beer swillin' rib crunching 300 lb pot bellied piece of trailer trash.......fueled up on NASCAR gasoline.......with his Weatherby in hand... :)
 

Bobby

The Legend
A guy the other day masked his article as a football bashing article when it was really intented to smear hispanics.
 


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