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Manchester United F.C Thread [2009/2010]

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thetrooper37

Senior Squad
MikeyM;2683552 said:
The main difference is the addition of Berbatov. Once Fergie spent £30M bringing him in, there was no way he wouldn't start the majority of games - and certainly he could never drop Rooney. Tevez was always going to be the man missing out, and I suspect that is a primary reason why United didn't take the option to sign him (That and the fact £30M to an agent was distasteful)

While we're on the Berbatov topic, he seems to operate further back than he did for Spurs, which may be why he isn't as effective.

I have a feeling that United will revert to the "Beckham" type set up, of pacy wingers supplying constant crosses to the front men. Ronaldo's individuality changed the way we played, because he preferred to cut in and go alone (sometimes to the detriment of his team-mates) I think the focus will be back on the front pair for goals next season, which as I keep saying will allow Wayne Rooney to become THE man for us. Certainly I'm expecting United to share the goals as we used to, especially with the freekicks and penalties being up for grabs too.

I also believe that Berba will also get more goals. Berba is misunderstood I feel, I was looking back at all the posts in this thread last summer when we were trying to get him - He's still the same player, we just need to give him a chance to adapt.

All this media hype about us "not being anything without Ronaldo" is a bunch of anti United tripe, perpetrated by the media and gobbled up by the ABU's (A term used to describe fans of other teams who hate us for no reasons other than jealousy "Anyone But United"s )who would dearly love to see the wheels come off for us. Ain't gonna happen boys and girls. United are bigger than any one player - if you don't believe me, look at this week for another example.

Well, Fergie knew that Ronaldo would be gone this summer so maybe he simply started preparing the future squad by bringing in Berbatov last summer? IF he waited to buy him right now, Berba would probably have cost even more considering he probably would have had another good season at Spurs and with us getting the 80 mils from Madrid, they'd try to suck us dry as much as possible.

And as you say, I hope he plays further up next season. I don't know why he was told to play so far back this year, he didn't even get 1 shot in some games...very frustrating. I feel that with Ronaldo moving on, him and Rooney will get a lot more goals and with the money we have, we should very well be able to buy a good winger that obviously wouldn't replace Ronaldo but the team as a whole will compensate well.
 

Pogba4Now

Team Captain
I think chances of retaining Tevez next season is rather slim. Apparently, talks with all interested parties will begin on Monday and Tuesday. He could be in talks with Man United, City, Chelsea or Liverpool. I'll be so pissed if he joined Liverpool or Man City. City will definitely be a step down for him IMO. Stupid move.
 

andremc11

Banned


What happened here?
 

cfdemarco

Reserve Team
According to ESPN this morning, we are going after David Villa.

That is fantastic news, he is exactly the kind of player we need, a pure striker who can replace all of the goals that Cristiano is taking with him to Spain.

So now it's going to be a bidding war between us, Madrid and Barca it seems. Unfortunately Villa has stated that Madrid would be his first choice.
 

Arnau

NGR LVR
cfdemarco;2684741 said:
According to ESPN this morning, we are going after David Villa.

That is fantastic news, he is exactly the kind of player we need, a pure striker who can replace all of the goals that Cristiano is taking with him to Spain.

So now it's going to be a bidding war between us, Madrid and Barca it seems. Unfortunately Villa has stated that Madrid would be his first choice.

lie.
 

MikeyM

Big Daddy
andremc11;2684726 said:


What happened here?

A United fan found him in LA, either that or Paris Hilton's boyfriend got hold of him.

It was a clash of heads during a champions league match.


Anyway that'll be nothing compared to what Vida does to him when we get Madrid in the Champions League! (Y)


Apparently the Real bid for David Villa has fallen through, Chelsea are now favourites - though United are believed to be in the running for him, another Valencia player linked with us is David Silva.

Is anyone making notes here? So far this summer we have been linked with;

Torres, Villa, Benzema, Silva, the young lad from Chile, Moutinho, Ribery, Valencia, Aguero.

I love silly season! :)
 

andremc11

Banned
MikeyM;2684833 said:
A United fan found him in LA, either that or Paris Hilton's boyfriend got hold of him.

It was a clash of heads during a champions league match.


Anyway that'll be nothing compared to what Vida does to him when we get Madrid in the Champions League! (Y)


Apparently the Real bid for David Villa has fallen through, Chelsea are now favourites - though United are believed to be in the running for him, another Valencia player linked with us is David Silva.

Is anyone making notes here? So far this summer we have been linked with;

Torres, Villa, Benzema, Silva, the young lad from Chile, Moutinho, Ribery, Valencia, Aguero.

I love silly season! :)

Torres would be lovely though unlikely. Villa overpriced, Benzema and aguero aswell. Ribery deserves a class of his own as his price is ridiculous. Moutinho is not very good,Deco at 33 would be a better buy. Siva and the chilean are not for sale.That leaves Valencia!!
 

adedawson

Senior Squad
Ferguson given age limit on major buys

By Ian Herbert
Wednesday, 17 June 2009

Sir Alex Ferguson has agreed to a new Old Trafford transfer strategy under which no players aged 26 or over will be signed on major deals by Manchester United – a move which explains why Franck Ribéry and Kaka have not been on the club's radar this summer and why Lyons' Karim Benzema might be.
Ferguson and the United chief executive, David Gill, are understood to have reached an agreement with their club's owners, the Glazer family, that the poor resale value of players purchased on five-year deals in their late 20s militates in favour of buying younger. It means that the likes of last summer's £31m lay-out for the then 27-year-old Dimitar Berbatov will not occur again, in Ferguson's reign at least; that Carlos Tevez, now 25, represents the top end of the age scale; and that United are not interested in the 26-year-old Ribéry.

The model – in which age is an over-riding consideration – certainly supports the pursuit of Lyons' 21-year-old striker Benzema, who is a perfect fit: a player in his early 20s with proven pedigree at the highest level. There remain no firm indications, however, that a player Ferguson has long admired is actually one of his targets and a general feeling persists that the €50m (£42m) price tag is excessive.

Another in the same age bracket as Benzema when United hired him was Michael Carrick, who was 24 when he arrived from Tottenham Hotspur in 2006 and his development into a profoundly influential player for Ferguson is regarded by him and Gill as the model United are striving for.

The agreement between the Glazers and their two most significant employees reflects the fact that the American owners, with their £650m debt to consider, must view player acquisitions as financial investments. Ferguson remarked last season on the way that Liverpool's Rafael Benitez had outspent him on players who had come and gone from Anfield. The Glazers are understood to have a £50m sum available for Ferguson this summer though a quantity of that is for "a rainy day", as one informed source has put it.

The resale value of Cristiano Ronaldo – which brought a £68m profit to United – reflects the wisdom of buying relatively young players and means that Ferguson has less need to dip into the £50m reserve. Increasingly in the past four or five years, Ferguson has bought young. Wayne Rooney, Nani and Anderson are all also players who have emerged having been signed aged 23 or under – hence the manager's contentment with a strategy which is a reaffirmation of his work.

Wigan Athletic's Luis Antonio Valencia is another 23-year-old they have in their sights – United officials will meet the Wigan chairman, Dave Whelan later this week to discuss buying the winger, Whelan revealed yesterday. But Ribéry does not appear to be a player they are seeking as a replacement for Ronaldo, despite the oblique hint yesterday by the Bayern Munich chairman, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, that an offer had been lodged for the midfielder. "There are clubs that have come to us with offers. Chelsea's bid has already been reported, and there's also Manchester United and Barcelona," Rummenigge said.

Chelsea do not, as yet, present a threat to United's attempts to hold onto Tevez. The west London club consider the £25.5m figure required to buy him excessive and are keener on pursuing Ribéry.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...s-1706887.html

interesting, no one over 25.
 

cfdemarco

Reserve Team
Where in the hell was this type of thinking when we blew $50 million on useless Berbatov? If we tried to sell him tomorrow we wouldn't get half of that back.

I still say sell Berbs, maybe we can get $20 million for him, and put that towards Benzema. I would much rather have Villa but apparently he is too old, being one of the best goal scorers in the world isn't good enough, he has to be a kid too.

Any word on Tevez? And what about Hargreves, has he recovered yet?
 

MikeyM

Big Daddy
cfdemarco;2686171 said:
Where in the hell was this type of thinking when we blew $50 million on useless Berbatov? If we tried to sell him tomorrow we wouldn't get half of that back.

I still say sell Berbs, maybe we can get $20 million for him, and put that towards Benzema. I would much rather have Villa but apparently he is too old, being one of the best goal scorers in the world isn't good enough, he has to be a kid too.

Any word on Tevez? And what about Hargreves, has he recovered yet?


I think Berbatov is a great player, some of the ball control he exhibits is Cantonaesque - I think next season he will play well for us. His laid back attitude should not be mistaken for laziness. The only issue I have is that he seems to play deeper for us than when he was with Spurs - I think he needs to play further up the pitch to dictate play.

That report is paper talk, designed to make the fans think the Glazers are dictating policies to Sir Alex. We know the Ronaldo money is available for new signings, and it makes good sense to be buying players that can give us long service (and if moved on will generate a profit) I suspect the policy is Sir Alex's more than anyone, he has his eye on the longterm success of Manchester United, as he always does.

Hargreaves is still not confirmed, I believe United are thinking he'll be fit for kickoff in August, but some media reports suggest January. I suspect he'll be fit before September time, if not before.

The latest news on Tevez is that Kia Jorabchian has met with United and several clubs to discuss possible deals. It is reported in the media (for what it's worth) that Carlitos is likely to leave because of his perception of the way he was treated (missing key games)

As for top names coming in, had you heard of Cristiano Ronaldo before he came? Exactly - United have a great record of buying young players and bringing them up to world class level. So even if our new additions aren't "big names" don't reach for the panic button!

Benzema would be a great aquisition though.
 

cfdemarco

Reserve Team
Berbs is a very skilled player, don't get me wrong...he is great at holding onto the ball and keeping possession...but I don't think his style is suited to being a striker, he is just not explosive enough.

It just irks me that David Villa, one of the best strikers in the world, is within our grasp and we are probably going to pass on him because he is 27.

Think about it this way- in losing Ronaldo and Tevez, we are losing 41 goals combined from last season...who is going to replace those goals?
 

ladylover

Senior Squad
cfdemarco;2686293 said:
Berbs is a very skilled player, don't get me wrong...he is great at holding onto the ball and keeping possession...but I don't think his style is suited to being a striker, he is just not explosive enough.

It just irks me that David Villa, one of the best strikers in the world, is within our grasp and we are probably going to pass on him because he is 27.

Think about it this way- in losing Ronaldo and Tevez, we are losing 41 goals combined from last season...who is going to replace those goals?

People said the same thing when Ruud left......look where we are now....don't worry about the goals....
 

andremc11

Banned
Harry on our future:

Harry Redknapp Worries For Manchester United, Post-Cristiano Ronaldo
The Tottenham boss feels that Ronaldo's departure could spark an exodus...
18 Jun 2009 10:56:50

Tottenham Hotspur manager Harry Redknapp fears for the future of England's flagship club Manchester United, as he feels the £80 million departure of Cristiano Ronaldo could have drastic ramifications for the club starting with where hard-working Argentine forward Carlos Tevez will be playing his football next season.

"Ronaldo has gone, who knows what will happen to Carlos Tevez and Manchester United are still hurting from the pain of their Champions League final defeat," Redknapp wrote in his column for British tabloid The Sun.

"Old Trafford is suddenly looking a bit wobbly," he said. "So if I was the manager of Birmingham City this morning, I would be thinking: Result!

"The Premier League newcomers were handed what many pundits would consider a nightmare draw when next season’s fixtures were announced yesterday.

"There is no better showcase for a newly-promoted team to show the country it is not just there for the taking than going to Old Trafford on the opening day and getting a point, maybe even three, and causing a shock."

Redknapp continued, "And this is United without Ronaldo, the one player who has consistently scored so many crucial goals for them. There are plenty of great players left, of course, and no doubt Fergie is going to spend a few quid on new buys.

"I do not believe there is one single player in the world capable of filling the gap left by Ronaldo’s move to Real Madrid."

Alan Dawson, Goal.com
 

andremc11

Banned
cfdemarco;2686293 said:
Berbs is a very skilled player, don't get me wrong...he is great at holding onto the ball and keeping possession...but I don't think his style is suited to being a striker, he is just not explosive enough.

It just irks me that David Villa, one of the best strikers in the world, is within our grasp and we are probably going to pass on him because he is 27.

Think about it this way- in losing Ronaldo and Tevez, we are losing 41 goals combined from last season...who is going to replace those goals?

Villa is 28 and Berbatov is more suited to spain or italy.
 
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